PREGAME: Rd 10 vs GWS Giants

[Demon Dude 425]

From that bench I would make 4 changes. Weid in for Smith. Wagner for ANB. Spargo for Stretch. And Lewis for Fritsch. 

[binman 37,715]

5 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Pretty hard to pick from that extended bench - Harmes is the only lock. Stretch and Fritsch are both only hanging on by a thread; you'd think Goodwin would pick Lewis even though most of us now wouldn't; I really want to back Weideman in to get going again; Preuss was playing okay before injury. I don't think Spargo or Wagner play.

I'd pick Harmes, Stretch, Weideman and Fritsch. I think Goodwin will pick Harmes, Lewis, Preuss and Fritsch.

Id pick harmes (of course), wagner (need him for greene), Fritsch (so lucky we have so many injuries, would play him at wing or half forward where is best suited) and I can't believe I'm saying this Lewis (he allows fritter to move up the ground and provides some experience in a very young back line -  but goes out when lever comes in).

Stretch has had his chance and needs to go back and learn to release the quickly and instinctively. Slowed our forward momentum against wc a number of times, which really stood out as we were obviously instructed to play on whenever possible. If he can't sort that aspect of his game i can't see him playing AFL again.

I've cooled on Pruess. Good back up for maxy but simply not mobile enough and fast enough to play as a semi permanent forward. Particularly against gws who love to run it off hb.  The predicted wet weather doesn't help his cause either.

I reckon goody will pick Harmed, Wagner, Fritter and Lewis.

[Nasher 33,047]

9 minutes ago, Demon Dude said:

From that bench I would make 4 changes. Weid in for Smith. Wagner for ANB. Spargo for Stretch. And Lewis for Fritsch. 

All the changes will come from the extended bench. Smith will be named in the final side and expected to play.

[binman 37,715]

Speaking of the rain, i really hope it holds off until after the game (or until half way through the last when we have 4 goal lead).

I'm firmly of the view that contrary to popular belief wet weather adavantages teams with good skills. And Gws are probably the most skilled side in the league. Wet weather makes executing skills more difficult and so it stands to reason good technique mitigates against that factor - and vice versa. 

In addition to having poor skills we have a game style (ie quick hands, chains of handball etc) that works better for us in dry conditions.

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,095]

11 hours ago, chookrat said:

No way Harmes is playing for Casey. I reckon Stretch and Fritch will both play for Melbourne on Sunday as well. 

Naming Harmes on the extended interchange bench and then by extension naming him in Casey's 18 is almost an insult for someone who's been our best players over the past 6 weeks.

I know the team on paper means nothing but they could've sneaked him into the 18.

Edited May 23, 2019 by Bring-Back-Powell

[Demon Dude 425]

16 minutes ago, Nasher said:

All the changes will come from the extended bench. Smith will be named in the final side and expected to play.

Late change is still possible if Smith's not 100% though. I wouldn't risk him.

[Dee Zephyr 17,294]

Haven’t seen much of GWS this year. Has Greene been playing up the field more or still predominantly stationed inside 50? 

I wouldn’t be surprised if Hore goes to him early.

[binman 37,715]

11 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Naming Harmes on the extended interchange bench and then by extension naming him in Casey's 18 is almost an insult for someone who's been our best players over the past 6 weeks.

I know the team on paper means nothing but they could've sneaked him into the 18.

Harmes would be in no doubt about his position in the team. He knows he is a total lock.

It would more be about ensuring a player like Smith isn't worried about his spot, which no doubt he would have if both he and weed were named on the bench.

[binman 37,715]

Just now, Dee Zephyr said:

Haven’t seen much of GWS this year. Has Greene been playing up the field more or still predominantly stationed inside 50? 

I wouldn’t be surprised if Hore goes to him early.

I thought Wagner but you're probably right as Greene is a strong bigger and excellent over head. Might need horse's height and strength.

That said he has playing am important role as an intercept mark player and not sure if he could afford to zone Greene.

[Demon Dude 425]

Yeah I'd go Wagner on Greene too. Put Hore on one of their lesser forwards so he can drop off him when he's not in dangerous positions and intercept for us.

[Dee Zephyr 17,294]

8 minutes ago, binman said:

I thought Wagner but you're probably right as Greene is a strong bigger and excellent over head. Might need horse's height and strength.

That said he has playing am important role as an intercept mark player and not sure if he could afford to zone Greene.

Good discussion binman, if anything it shows we still have some options even with 3-4 starting defenders out. Wagner can be used solely to negate Greene, Hore is quickly becoming a favourite amongst us, definitely not a one trick pony and loving his ability to win the one on one too. 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,380]

18 minutes ago, binman said:

Harmes would be in no doubt about his position in the team. He knows he is a total lock.

It would more be about ensuring a player like Smith isn't worried about his spot, which no doubt he would have if both he and weed were named on the bench.

Agreed. I'm reasonably confident the players don't have to wait for the team to be published to find out whether they are playing on the weekend.

[binman 37,715]

4 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Agreed. I'm reasonably confident the players don't have to wait for the team to be published to find out whether they are playing on the weekend.

No, but I suspect teams will be finalised today so the players won't know the final line up yet (but will before it is announced tonight obviously)

[loges 5,988]

13 hours ago, one_demon said:

Giants' poor MCG record is at the forefront of their players' minds this week.  They will win.

Usually works the other way.

[Return to Glory 7,681]

Predicting Greene will get a close tag and get reported this week. Due for some stupidity.

[hells bells 2,022]

14 hours ago, Beetle said:

Yes his 15 possessions and 3 goals 2 was utterly disgusting last week.

How many times did he not even provide a contest?  Shirked the contest a couple of times too.  2 goals from being out the back inflate his stats and overstate his level of performance.

[dazzledavey36 48,583]

38 minutes ago, Demon Dude said:

From that bench I would make 4 changes. Weid in for Smith. Wagner for ANB. Spargo for Stretch. And Lewis for Fritsch. 

Smith is named on the field, he won't be dropped. They'llonly drop players from the extended bench

How people still don't understand this concept is seriously mind boggling.

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,267]

1 hour ago, binman said:

Speaking of the rain, i really hope it holds off until after the game (or until half way through the last when we have 4 goal lead).

I'm firmly of the view that contrary to popular belief wet weather adavantages teams with good skills. And Gws are probably the most skilled side in the league. Wet weather makes executing skills more difficult and so it stands to reason good technique mitigates against that factor - and vice versa. 

In addition to having poor skills we have a game style (ie quick hands, chains of handball etc) that works better for us in dry conditions.

Agree, our skills are woeful 

We need dry conditions and plenty of Grippo 

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,267]

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Smith is named on the field, he won't be dropped. They'llonly drop players from the extended bench

How people still don't understand this concept is seriously mind boggling.

Except for the 'late changes' option where anyone can be replaced for an emergency up until just before game time, now becoming a selection tool rather than emergency option

[rjay 23,839]

10 minutes ago, hells bells said:

How many times did he not even provide a contest?  Shirked the contest a couple of times too.  2 goals from being out the back inflate his stats and overstate his level of performance.

Has the footy smarts to get out the back on his own.

None of our other small forwards can do it...so we stick with Jeffy until we find someone else.

[leave it to deever 15,128]

46 minutes ago, Demon Dude said:

Yeah I'd go Wagner on Greene too. Put Hore on one of their lesser forwards so he can drop off him when he's not in dangerous positions and intercept for us.

Marty Hore will be an absolute star one day.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

The bench should be Harmes, Preuss, Fritsch and C. Wagner.

[Monocology 1,107]

1 hour ago, binman said:

Speaking of the rain, i really hope it holds off until after the game (or until half way through the last when we have 4 goal lead).

I'm firmly of the view that contrary to popular belief wet weather adavantages teams with good skills. And Gws are probably the most skilled side in the league. Wet weather makes executing skills more difficult and so it stands to reason good technique mitigates against that factor - and vice versa. 

In addition to having poor skills we have a game style (ie quick hands, chains of handball etc) that works better for us in dry conditions.

Maybe wet weather will have George Costanza, opposite of every previous decision-type effect on Petracca.

[At the break of Gawn 3,473]

I’m doubtful Preuss will get selected due to the weather forecast. 90% chance of rain, showers from the afternoon to evening. 

If it looks like holding off to the evening, bring him in as a late change with the old ‘general soreness’ on Billy Stretch. 

I think Fritsch will survive. Some of his kicks through the middle of the ground last week were superb and opened the Eagles up. Although I agree he coughed it up a few times with some bad handballs last week.

Therefore,

In: Lewis

Out: AnB

Late change on Sunday (weather permitting): Out Stretch, In Preuss.

Edited May 24, 2019 by At the break of Gawn

[binman 37,715]

54 minutes ago, hells bells said:

How many times did he not even provide a contest?  Shirked the contest a couple of times too.  2 goals from being out the back inflate his stats and overstate his level of performance.

Shirking contests is the biggest issue for mine. Has done so in all 3 matches since his return