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GAMEDAY: Rd 07 vs Hawthorn


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27 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Thats not even what i was suggesting at all. 

 And i cant even be bothered trying to explaing you anyway, im sure you'll work it out.

I don't get why this slow team would be better being slower, on a wet, slow ground? I don't think you could explain it even if you could be bothered. I have no idea what you are suggesting? Perhaps that we have not been losing by enough? 

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45 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Just hope we have reached our nadir last week and we start to improve. Or else its official we are back to the Schwabovian nightmare. Time to turn our season around is still on our side but only just.

I reckon the nadir was vs St Kilda. I saw some improvement in key structural areas vs Richmond.

Still, point taken, we can only afford to improve from here or we're in dire straits.

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I agree with @Moonshadow - I expect to see the Hawks switching across half-back, opening up the fat side of the ground, and trying to move the ball down the wings with pace.

Three things I really want to see today (other than a win of course) - the forward press not being as high (which we saw steps towards vs Richmond), some marks inside 50 (or at least contests which bring the ball to ground), and more forward pressure from the mid/small forwards (Garlett, Hunt, Melksham, Petracca).

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24 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I reckon the nadir was vs St Kilda. I saw some improvement in key structural areas vs Richmond.

Still, point taken, we can only afford to improve from here or we're in dire straits.

We passed through the straits of dire 2-3 weeks ago. We’re now in the cave of no return (classic D Gen - how do you know it’s the cave of no return? “I’ve been there before”).

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So let’s see if this club has any ATTITUDE at all. 

Goodwin your job is on the line, your players do not work hard enough every week. You can give me all the fancy [censored] answers about “processes in place” but that is all new age BS

It all comes down to Attitude. 

There is little pride in wearing the MFC Jumper, it has been shat on for too long, so now it smells bad. 

 

Lift your game Goodwin, Coach the dam team to win. 

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52 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Righto, if it's wet, for the love of God, please kick the freakin thing off the deck!!!!!

Our home and away game against Hawthorn  last year as also in the wet. Lets hope weve learnt a few things from then

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Yep, i sense a repeat of the Richmond game. Close for the first half, signs that we are fading in the third, before being blown away in the last.

Hawks by 8+ goals.

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2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Goodwin your job is on the line

Unfortunately, it's not, we are stuck with him until 2022. Our window is nailed shut. Goodwin could not get the job done inheriting a good list. There is no evidence that he can rebuild anything, or develop a plan B, his job is safe as long as contracted. 

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3 minutes ago, Deehumanizing said:

Unfortunately, it's not, we are stuck with him until 2022. Our window is nailed shut. Goodwin could not get the job done inheriting a good list. There is no evidence that he can rebuild anything, or develop a plan B, his job is safe as long as contracted. 

Contracts can be easily broken, Goodwin won’t last long if nothing changes. 

There is too much other money, reliant on positive results at stake. 

We have been through the “patient” years

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5 minutes ago, Deehumanizing said:

Unfortunately, it's not, we are stuck with him until 2022. Our window is nailed shut. Goodwin could not get the job done inheriting a good list. There is no evidence that he can rebuild anything, or develop a plan B, his job is safe as long as contracted. 

I agree that his job isn’t on the line right now, but no one likes being under unnecessary pressure. Having said that, coaches get sacked all the time mid contract so, it’s not iron clad.

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2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Contracts can be easily broken

Not these days - it is too expensive. When was the last coach sacked? I think Neeld was the last in the league and there has not been one since. Coaches don't get sacked anymore it reflects badly on the clowns who did due diligence on hiring in the first place.

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4 minutes ago, Deehumanizing said:

Not these days - it is too expensive. When was the last coach sacked? I think Neeld was the last in the league and there has not been one since. Coaches don't get sacked anymore it reflects badly on the clowns who did due diligence on hiring in the first place.

If we are still rubbish next season Goodwin will go. Membership and Sponsorship $$$’s will dictate that.  I don’t think you realize how much money flows through an AFL Club. 

The Coach’s Salary is only a small portion

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4 hours ago, Drunkn167 said:

Good morning all

I can’t overstate my excitement for today. Get to be in the rooms before the game for the jumper presentation then it’s meeting up with all the friends and family for the big day.

Lets hope we bring the heat today and get the win. 

Don’t know you, never met you, but like many Demonlanders have followed your story with interest. Truly very excited for you and hope this is the beginning of something special for you and Dec. God knows we need a good news story..

Am a little bit jealous- wish my brother was debuting today, but unfortunately- he is a spud ? 

Good luck mate, enjoy the game and the experience!! 

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19 minutes ago, Deehumanizing said:

Unfortunately, it's not, we are stuck with him until 2022. Our window is nailed shut. Goodwin could not get the job done inheriting a good list. There is no evidence that he can rebuild anything, or develop a plan B, his job is safe as long as contracted. 

Nor is there  also evidence that he has failed.

This has happened plenty of times before at plenty of other clubs, within the last decade and a bit

Thompson at Geelong

Clarkson at Hawthorn

Hardwick at Richmond

Simpson at WCE

Roos at Sydney

Aside from Beveridge, who had a lucky tin ar$e month - all premiers (and those who are there abouts 'Buckley')...have slumped before reaching the pinnacle.

Success is never linear, just because you want it now, doesn't mean its a failure...and to use a cliche - it's a process.

 

 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Deehumanizing said:

Unfortunately, it's not, we are stuck with him until 2022. Our window is nailed shut. Goodwin could not get the job done inheriting a good list. There is no evidence that he can rebuild anything, or develop a plan B, his job is safe as long as contracted. 

Boo hoo negative Nance

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15 minutes ago, Deehumanizing said:

Not these days - it is too expensive. When was the last coach sacked? I think Neeld was the last in the league and there has not been one since. Coaches don't get sacked anymore it reflects badly on the clowns who did due diligence on hiring in the first place.

Richmond should have sacked Hardwick in 2016 and Collingwood Buckley in 2017. Lighten up champ. 

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3 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

This has happened plenty of times before at plenty of other clubs

None of those were sacked and all are better coaches than Goodwin. I want the Demons to win and be successful but I am a realist. I just can't see it happening under Goodwin, he does not think on his feet. Goodwin will manage the team and speak well publically but success needs a coach that can coach well.

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5 hours ago, Drunkn167 said:

Good morning all

I can’t overstate my excitement for today. Get to be in the rooms before the game for the jumper presentation then it’s meeting up with all the friends and family for the big day.

Lets hope we bring the heat today and get the win. 

At least someone is going to enjoy today!

Good luck to Dec today. Such an exciting moment!

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