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6 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Maximum Bob. The spirit of Zen is infinitely malleable. There is a time for combativeness when the right circumstances present themselves. Masters on occasion will deploy the ‘keisaku’ - flat wooden stick - over the shoulders of sleepy monks during periods of meditation. THWACK!! This is never done with malice, but with a sense of compassion for those who lack concentration. And let’s not get started on the warrior heart of the samurai. I hope you enjoyed your time in Japan.

Hmmm..an old Dland soul ???

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2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Food for thought. The Football inner sanctum is a bit of an incestuous environment. CW , all dismissives aside does often have decent,if unfortunate , lines of information.

The other side of coin becomes her agendas. These are often not of our suiting. She vehemently hates all things Schwab.

Some occasional sources of goss suggest we aren't as warm and fuzzy atm as have been quite recently.

Not everyone is swimming the same way. All think it's best for Melbourne. Same ol...

 

Yet @Wiseblood, who has a contact in the McCartney clan, has indicated that the coaches and staff are not at war with each other, that they are more focussed on fixing our maliase than pointing fingers.

It's all food for thought, Bub, and who the f knows?!

However, there are certainly those on here that like to make up [censored] based upon far fetched correlations or who are perennially outraged and thrive on our misery, demanding heads roll everywhere.

Certainly you are right in that CW has her own agendas and loves footy politics

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1 hour ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Maximum Bob. The spirit of Zen is infinitely malleable. There is a time for combativeness when the right circumstances present themselves. Masters on occasion will deploy the ‘keisaku’ - flat wooden stick - over the shoulders of sleepy monks during periods of meditation. THWACK!! This is never done with malice, but with a sense of compassion for those who lack concentration. And let’s not get started on the warrior heart of the samurai. I hope you enjoyed your time in Japan.

Nice quick google research [censored]. You're now on ignore.

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I don't get ignore....( though I suspect I am ignored lol )

Can't folk just let [censored] go through to the keeper. 

Btw ..the Keeper has his lot eh...lol

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7 hours ago, Cards13 said:

Posting often doesn’t make you right.

Personally I don’t feel like Pert has any influence on our current on field outcomes. Just the same as PJ had no influence, besides challenging the footy dept when required.

Fanciful and trollish to keep suggesting otherwise I think. 

Disagree. If the CEO is shithouse, the football club is usually shithouse.

Don't get me wrong, I have no idea what's going on inside the football club and do not pretend to.

However, to say the CEO has no influence on the on field performance is failing to understand how organisations function. It becomes cultural and the agenda is set from the top down. 

In terms of speculation, I do find it highly unlikely that we'd go from premiership fancies and top 4 finishers last year, to wooden spooners within 7 weeks, all because of a CEO though. Culture doesn't permeate that quickly. 

IMO, the reasons for the drastic downturn in performance on field from what I can tell (by what has been said by the club and others connected to it in the media), are varied. From a broken system; players failing to implement the system; players not being fit enough to implement the system; players coming back late because of surgeries; players coming back unfit to pre season; the shortened pre season; potential disharmony amongst the players and coaches; and poor match day coaching.

There may well be other reasons not yet revealed, but mid (2-3 seasons) to long term (5+ seasons), the CEO will help shape how functional or dysfunctional an organisation is. In football terms, if the club is dysfunctional off field, it will eventually translate to on field performance.

I hope the right decision has been made with regards to Pert. I will wait and see.

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7 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Communication is a very important function, considering the plummet we have endured since September. 

You don’t have to read it or listen, if you are not interested. 

I would like to hear what the president has to say. 

Email him then.

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Life's a b*#*ch when your team aint winning.

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Whether or not you feel Pert’s appointment has had any influence on this unfolding debacle, let’s not pretend the decline started this season. Let’s recognise that we were completely humiliated in the final game of season 2018 before Pert had even started. That team is this team. 

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15 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/gary-pert-s-resurrection-a-contentious-call-at-melbourne-20180629-p4zojn.html

"The old Melbourne guard - a vocal and gregarious group of former committeemen, coterie and old Melburnians (the school not the club) - were loud in their condemnation that Bartlett had recruited a Collingwood discard. Admittedly many of this group have had their time at board level with underwhelming results but many still give generously to the club. Ditto the Demons' most influential past players and ditto a long list of other club CEOs who have great respect for the achievements of the outgoing Peter Jackson and were dismayed that Jackson had been totally shut out of the search for his successor."

Good to know Caro got one last story out of the people who spent all of 2011-2013 leaking to her.

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3 hours ago, P-man said:

Whether or not you feel Pert’s appointment has had any influence on this unfolding debacle, let’s not pretend the decline started this season. Let’s recognise that we were completely humiliated in the final game of season 2018 before Pert had even started. That team is this team. 

Correct. The Prelim wasn’t just a bad day

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7 hours ago, P-man said:

Whether or not you feel Pert’s appointment has had any influence on this unfolding debacle, let’s not pretend the decline started this season. Let’s recognise that we were completely humiliated in the final game of season 2018 before Pert had even started. That team is this team. 

The ructions over Pert’s appointment started back in June 2018 during and after the hiring process. 

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14 hours ago, Sorry kids said:

Would you not recognise a Rolls Royce if you owned one. Hogan is a star.

People on here are calling for Jayden Hunts head and yet he is averaging the same number of goals per game this year as your star Hogan. He has potential to be a star but he is not.He is no Rolls Royce but a Camry with a nice paint job.

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8 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Always weak to hurl petty insults when defeated in argument.

No Zen spirit there. More like Minimum Bob.

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2 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

The ructions over Pert’s appointment started back in June 2018 during and after the hiring process. 

It very much sounds to me that you could be one of those people in Wilson's supposed inside information article about unrest because of Pert's appointment.

Wilson is just another of the sewer rat brigade that masquerade as journalists.

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16 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Classic google translation ?

ET this site seems to have been infiltrated by a disturbing amount of dross of late, perhaps losing stirs the cesspit.

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Hilarious people talking about putting people on ignore because they don't agree with their opinion on a forum. 

I'm not in the camp of blaming Pert for anything just yet, but to suggest he couldn't possibly have any influence yet is categorically incorrect. Culture starts at the top and can flow down quicker than you think. Anyone who has served in the military will have a very good concept of this. No-one here is a fly on the wall in the MFC offices, so it's all just speculation in the end. 

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6 minutes ago, Smokey said:

Hilarious people talking about putting people on ignore because they don't agree with their opinion on a forum. 

I'm not in the camp of blaming Pert for anything just yet, but to suggest he couldn't possibly have any influence yet is categorically incorrect. Culture starts at the top and can flow down quicker than you think. Anyone who has served in the military will have a very good concept of this. No-one here is a fly on the wall in the MFC offices, so it's all just speculation in the end. 

Not a hard concept is it Smokey.

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3 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Not a hard concept is it Smokey.

Not really. It's quite strange to watch people refute this notion with authority when they couldn't possibly be fully informed on the inner workings involving the CEO of a footy club.

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