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5 hours ago, A F said:

Patton won't work in the forward system we need to play.

We already have a cumbersome, ordinary forward line that completely lacks pace and gets rebounded off week in and week out. Patton would contribute to this problem. 

A player like Himmelberg as some have noted is a really good example of a nimble forward that can take a big mark but get the job done on the ground too. Even Greenwood from Adelaide, Lever's best mate, would be an interesting idea to play forward. Quick, strong, a decent kick and a good mark. Could rotate between the midfield and deep forward.

We need to radically change our set up, making us faster, unpredictable and harder to coach against.

We need a fit Melksham, a fit Hannan, even a fit Vandenberg would help. Along with Petracca, a Greenwood-type, Caddy, Bolton and another quick (how's Bedford coming along?), this will drastically change our forwardline.

Personally, I'd implement far more rotation and switching between deep forward, half forward and midfield than we do. I'd basically play a similar system to Liverpool in soccer. The front 3 or 4 attackers constantly rotate in and out of midfield, wide positions and attack. I'd look at making us dynamic as possible by making a lot of our positions agnostic and interchangeable.

Patton doesn't won't work if we go down this sort of path.

Bedford a medium term MAYBE at this point.  At least another season at Casey away from impacting (or thereabouts) IMV.

A big yes to the rest of your post AND Roosts highlighted bit below.

We have been too immobile for years for too many blocks of matches.  Major injection of movement needed aka Fritschkreig & a little from Petty on Sat night.  Melk in 2020.  Why im super keen on Cameron.  He offers the mobility and goal smarts and can clunk them anywhere playing outside the arc & in/around the goal square.  I know we wont get him but a Lynch/Cameron/Himmelburg type is a huge must along with a few quality small forwards.

4 hours ago, Roost It said:

We need pace, class and players in the 22-26 bracket.  Patton will go to the Hawks, a massive no to Jenkins and perhaps a new coach but that’s yet to be fully proven. 

Courtesy of NIC NEGREPONTIS via SEN (apologies if posted/discussed previously guys)

...."Unfortunately for key forward Jon Patton, a minor setback has delayed his return from a torn ACL last year.

He was set for a return via the NEAFL, but that has been pushed back by up to three weeks.

“With Patton, he was about to return a couple of weeks ago, we’ve just had a couple of minor little setbacks at training and just the final piece of the puzzle in terms of returning to play,” he said.

“That might be in a few weeks time.

“We were going smooth sailing there, but then we just had a couple of little setbacks so it might be another two or three weeks, but it’s hard to put a timeline on that.”

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39 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

"Minor, little setbacks"???

Please no!

Injury prone. I seriously doubt we are in the market for a high priced crock. Don't worry Mr Shadow he ain't coming to the Dees.

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On 8/5/2019 at 5:21 PM, old dee said:

Injury prone. I seriously doubt we are in the market for a high priced crock. Don't worry Mr Shadow he ain't coming to the Dees.

No worse then Weeds who injures himself 3-4 times a year

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I wouldn’t have an issue with us having a look at Patton, I’m not sure what gets the job done in terms of picks/trade options. He is injury prone and that’s the major risk we’d take with him, it’s a matter of whether our (new) high performance team would feel that they can nurse him back to health without too many regular setbacks. 

Right now our forward line is completely impotent, do we think that TMac will get back to his best? Do we think Weids will become the player we hope he can be?

In the last two trade periods we’ve given up two forward in Watts and Hogan (while also delisting Pedders who had decent hands on him) but haven’t got any sort of key forward back. I don’t think we can continue to hope TMac and Weids will be the answer to our goal kicking issues. 

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3 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Him going to Hawthorn is a fait acompli.

The Hot Air Balloons on Footy Classified were all in agreement that this deal is all but done.  They said he isn't playing at any level right now so as to avoid injury before his move to Hawthorn. 

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6 minutes ago, GetJonnoPatton said:

Dees Pick 2(3) for GWS picks 11,13&Patton. Now there’s a deal we should push for!

This is it - the silver lining to this year’s debacle.

https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-29/why-the-giants-are-eyeing-off-the-demons-no2-draft-pick

Oh AH. Oh um. Maybe no.  Maybe tempting.  

#2/3 for 11,13,and Patton. 

Well. No no. No.  Nah. Um. Could we. No. No ummmmm well. Let me think. No. Ah.  Umm. 

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32 minutes ago, GetJonnoPatton said:

Dees Pick 2(3) for GWS picks 11,13&Patton. Now there’s a deal we should push for!

This is it - the silver lining to this year’s debacle.

https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-29/why-the-giants-are-eyeing-off-the-demons-no2-draft-pick

I think we will struggle to get him in the cap....I believe his contract is in excess of 700k 

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2 hours ago, GetJonnoPatton said:

Dees Pick 2(3) for GWS picks 11,13&Patton. Now there’s a deal we should push for!

This is it - the silver lining to this year’s debacle.

https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-29/why-the-giants-are-eyeing-off-the-demons-no2-draft-pick

I don’t mind it but we need OUTSIDE RUNNERS like we have for the last 13 seasons. 

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On 4/26/2019 at 6:21 PM, dazzledavey36 said:

Once someone is linked to a hawks you might as well walk away.. They are so ruthless and just know how to get the job done.

God if only we could be like that on and off the field. 

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On 8/30/2019 at 8:52 PM, DemonOX said:

I don’t mind it but we need OUTSIDE RUNNERS like we have for the last 13 seasons. 

ron burgundy what GIF

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On 8/30/2019 at 8:52 PM, DemonOX said:

I don’t mind it but we need OUTSIDE RUNNERS like we have for the last 13 seasons. 

Who are these outside runners going to kick it to? Pray tell ...

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3 hours ago, GetJonnoPatton said:

Who are these outside runners going to kick it to? Pray tell ...

Not Patton.

3 knee recos. Not 1, not 2, but 3....

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Patton?? His knees are shot. Let the Hawks deal with his broken body. If this season taught us anything, its that we need players who can stay on the park

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A full forward who averages 1 goal and 1 tackle per game? 

Sign me up!

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36 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

A full forward who averages 1 goal and 1 tackle per game? 

Sign me up!

You forgot the trifecta of being injury prone.

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1 hour ago, ding said:

Patton?? His knees are shot. Let the Hawks deal with his broken body. If this season taught us anything, its that we need players who can stay on the park

Like Scully and O’Meara’s “broken bodies”?

Hmmm.

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26 minutes ago, GetJonnoPatton said:

 

Like Scully and O’Meara’s “broken bodies”?

Hmmm.

Scully is one of the least damaging players in the comp.

I'll give you O'Meara, but they paid plenty to get him.  There is a reason Scully came cheap and it's the same reason as to why Patton will come for the same price.

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Hes cooked. 

Big pass from me.

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5 hours ago, GetJonnoPatton said:

Who are these outside runners going to kick it to? Pray tell ...

Preferably into the forward 50 and actually hit a target rather than dumping it on their heads and praying they take mark of the yr each time. 

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