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13 hours ago, rjay said:

That's all we would get for him...

I beg to differ, and I wouldn’t trade him for anything less than a top 10.

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4 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

I beg to differ, and I wouldn’t trade him for anything less than a top 10.

We need him 'Mach' but I don't think we would get a top 10 pick for him...his currency will rise though if he keeps up his present form.

At the moment he's our best kept secret, probably due to the rest of the team performing so poorly. Would have to be leading the B&F by a fair margin.

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1 minute ago, rjay said:

We need him 'Mach' but I don't think we would get a top 10 pick for him...his currency will rise though if he keeps up his present form.

At the moment he's our best kept secret, probably due to the rest of the team performing so poorly. Would have to be leading the B&F by a fair margin.

 

Opposition supporters may not know, but think other clubs definitely do.

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14 hours ago, John Demonic said:

You have to give something to get something, and i think Harmes is the most likely player to have reached his peak value out of our mids, whereas the rest have a far higher ceiling and will get better as runners. Our core inside mids can be surrounded by better runners than Harmes and they will flourish even more. Petracca is the only other player i think that has collateral, and his ceiling is far too high for the next few years before a trade is even thinkable for a player like Langdon who's more your pick 15-20 player.

Harmes will not be traded. Full stop.

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12 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Harmes will not be traded. Full stop.

Harmes absolutely would be traded if the price was right, i think you're incorrect. The question i'm answering is Langdon vs Harmes. I'd take Langdon and that's the trade it would take to get him right now. They wouldnt take our 2nd round pick imo. And I wouldn't trade Salem for Langdon. We have too many similar mids, hence the need to 'diversify'

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11 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

Harmes absolutely would be traded if the price was right, i think you're incorrect. The question i'm answering is Langdon vs Harmes. I'd take Langdon and that's the trade it would take to get him right now. They wouldnt take our 2nd round pick imo. And I wouldn't trade Salem for Langdon. We have too many similar mids, hence the need to 'diversify'

Thats nice. Won't happen. Move on.

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2 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Thats nice. Won't happen. Move on.

You gave me nothing. Do you think we should pursue Ed Langdon? If so, what would you trade for him? If not, then yes, moving on.

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1 minute ago, John Demonic said:

You gave me nothing. Do you think we should pursue Ed Langdon? If so, what would you trade for him?

A pick. Not first round. And definitely not Harmes.

You over analyse 

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On 5/3/2019 at 6:46 PM, Lord Travis said:

The going price would've been a second rounder two years ago when we last had a crack at him. He'll cost a first rounder now in my opinion. He'd currently be leading Freo's best and fairest and would be All Australian on the season so far. His pace and running power both ways are currently amongst the best in the AFL. His trademark is using his pace to run opponents down from behind.

Can't remember the last time a Melbourne player ran that hard defensively for half the field!

Ed Langdon 2019 average stats:
28 disposals
4 inside 50s
4 rebound 50s
2 clearances
3 tackles
8 marks
5 score involvements
505 metres gained
disposal efficiency of 77%

For comparison sake, he's at a similar point in his career to Christian Salem, but was drafted a year later and is performing slightly better. Would you trade Salem for a second rounder?

Christian Salem 2019 average stats:
26 disposals
2 inside 50s
6 rebound 50s
1 clearance
3 tackles
4 marks
3 score involvements
464 metres gained
disposal efficiency 70%

Langdons out of contract and if he asks for a trade then you generally get away with paying less. If a club chased salem, offered as bigger contract while under contract, i would expect a later first round, same situation as above and you'd be getting an early to mid second round pick.

Players have to much power, who other than kelly for geelong hasnt got thei r own way when asking for a trade under contract recently? 

A player says i want to be traded to x club, x club offers what they want, stand off, then the club normally accepts less than they wanted from said club. Unless its melbourne, then we blink first and pay more. 

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Do we get one pick (Nietschke) or two (Walker) in this mid-season draft? Seems NQR that you'd be allowed to pick a ready made player to replace a Category B rookie but with the AFL who knows.

Wonder if there's any electric forwards in the mix? Helps take a chance on somebody unusual when you can chuck them 12 weeks later.

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20 hours ago, Supermercado said:

Do we get one pick (Nietschke) or two (Walker) in this mid-season draft? Seems NQR that you'd be allowed to pick a ready made player to replace a Category B rookie but with the AFL who knows.

Wonder if there's any electric forwards in the mix? Helps take a chance on somebody unusual when you can chuck them 12 weeks later.

Only one pick sadly. 

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Just seen a post on a Facebook trading page that tom papley might seek to come back to Victoria at season's end. 23 years old in July and is a quality & speedy small forward. 

Us along with the blues, saints, doggies and norf are currently the teams to express interest 

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14 minutes ago, GCDee said:

Just seen a post on a Facebook trading page that tom papley might seek to come back to Victoria at season's end. 23 years old in July and is a quality & speedy small forward. 

Us along with the blues, saints, doggies and norf are currently the teams to express interest 

You do realise that page is just a troll? 

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On 5/4/2019 at 9:40 PM, John Demonic said:

You gave me nothing. Do you think we should pursue Ed Langdon? If so, what would you trade for him? If not, then yes, moving on.

As a poster said earlier, we could, and not without significant risk, back ourselves and trade next year's future first rounder. In the belief that it would equate to somewhere between picks 15 to 18. 

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Mid Season draft now really shapes as an important pick for us, we can add something really important straight up. We will have a pick in the top 4, apologies i couldn't find a mid season draft page.

I feel we should take a punt on a classic footballer, no project players, get a seasoned player in and give them a chance. 

 

 

 

 

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i would love to get one of the host of victorians playing at freo back as cheaply as possible

be it langdon, brayshaw, cerra, ryan...the idea of pilfering one of their 20-23 year old vic boys after they've taken several of our wa boys in the past appeals greatly

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8 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

i would love to get one of the host of victorians playing at freo back as cheaply as possible

be it langdon, brayshaw, cerra, ryan...the idea of pilfering one of their 20-23 year old vic boys after they've taken several of our wa boys in the past appeals greatly

Out of interest, who have they got from us? Hogan, Farmer and ?

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7 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Out of interest, who have they got from us? Hogan, Farmer and ?

that's two of our three best forwards over the last twenty years, so good start.....

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1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

Out of interest, who have they got from us? Hogan, Farmer and ?

Phil Gilbert!

We did get Jeff White and the prince Scott Chisholm from Freo!

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5 hours ago, TRIGON said:

As a poster said earlier, we could, and not without significant risk, back ourselves and trade next year's future first rounder. In the belief that it would equate to somewhere between picks 15 to 18. 

I'd like Langdon... But I reckon we should go all out for free agent Coniglio, first and foremost...  with Jones and Lewis nearing the outer edge of the AFL footy. And Jeffy... then Nev,  not too far off, as well.

 

... so, for what I've read above... In order I'd want us to go hard at >>>

Coniglio 1st.....  open your cheque-book Melbourne...  this one we have to WIN.

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Langdon 2nd

Papley 3rd

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Have a crack at Garlett in the midseason draft. Doing the business in the WAFL and speed to burn. Just what we need.

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Anyone got any other suggestions besides Langdon? He's a turnover merchant.

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17 hours ago, GCDee said:

Just seen a post on a Facebook trading page that tom papley might seek to come back to Victoria at season's end. 23 years old in July and is a quality & speedy small forward. 

Us along with the blues, saints, doggies and norf are currently the teams to express interest 

Tom is a very good player and a something that we lack, a quality crumbed. He was recruited from Casey so he knows a lot of the boys on our list. Very gettable. 

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Re Sydney 'bottoming out'.  On OTC last night Roos said he was aware there were 2 outstanding players in the draft.

It made me think Sydney is positioning to get them: one with a very early pic and the other with an upgrade of a low 20's pic.  It may be a race to the bottom between them and Carlton.

Didn't WCE and Colllingwood do something similar at one stage?

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