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The 2019 Draft and Trade Targets Thread


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4 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Would pretty much make the off season. We need goal scoring power. We need quality smalls. We need marking options. He’s all of the above.

We should be loading up ok free agents, as they cost us nothing in terms of draft picks and we’ve traded away all our first rounders for years on end now.

To add Elliott and Tomlinson without giving up any picks would be huge for the club. Add in Langdon for a second round pick and that’s a very successful off season to balance out list and add mature talent.

Langdon, Elliot, Tomlinson, pick 3/11&13  just need to find one or two good on field leaders to boost that area and it's a very productive off season.

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B: JETTA, MAY, LEVER

HB: HIBBERD, FROST, SALEM

C : LANGDON, OLIVER, TOMLINSON

HF: MELKSHAM, T.MCDONALD, PETRACCA

F: ELLIOTT, WEIDEMAN, FRITSCH

FOLL: GAWN, VINEY, BRAYSHAW

IC: HARMES, JONES, ANDERSON, PETTY

EMERG: HUNT, VANDENBERG, J.SMITH, HORE

 

CASEY

B: NEITSCHKE, O.MCDONALD, WALKER

HB: JORDON, HORE, KOLDOJASHNIJ

C : STRETCH, SPARROW, BAKER

HF: HUNT, J.SMITH, NEAL-BULLEN

F: DRAFT PICK, BRADTKE, HANNAN

FOLL: PREUSS, VANDENBERG, SPARGO

IC: C.WAGNER, LOCKHART, DUNKLEY, CHANDLER

EMERG: BEDFORD, ROOKIE, MID SEASON PICK

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20 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Tomlinson, Langdon, Elliot plus Anderson or Young in the draft is not a bad October trade/draft period.

Would've preferred one match winning mid with class such as Hill, Jack Martin or Coniglio.

Really hope GCS don't get 1 & 2 and we pick Anderson.

If the Dees get Pick 2. I’m confident it will be traded to GC for Ben King. Therefore, GC get Rowell and Anderson.

If we get Pick 3. Ben King is still on the cards but will play out quite differently. I have two scenarios if I was Recruitment Manager;

Pick 3 to GWS for Pick 12, 14 & a player (eg. Zac Langdon).

We then on trade;

Pick 12 & 14 to GC for Ben King

or ideally

Pick 14, 2020 First Round Pick & player (eg. ANB, J Wagner QLDer, etc...) Add Baker as he is a QLDer also. 

We use Pick 12 to select Cody Weightman

Add Pick 20/21 - Ed Langdon & Free Agents - Tomlinson & Elliot.

IN - Ben King, Ed & Zac Langdon, Elliot, Tomlinson, Cody Weightman...

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2 minutes ago, Dee tention said:

If the Dees get Pick 2. I’m confident it will be traded to GC for Ben King. Therefore, GC get Rowell and Anderson.

If we get Pick 3. Ben King is still on the cards but will play out quite differently. I have two scenarios if I was Recruitment Manager;

Pick 3 to GWS for Pick 12, 14 & a player (eg. Zac Langdon).

We then on trade;

Pick 12 & 14 to GC for Ben King

or ideally

Pick 14, 2020 First Round Pick & player (eg. ANB, J Wagner QLDer, etc...) Add Baker as he is a QLDer also. 

We use Pick 12 to select Cody Weightman

Add Pick 20/21 - Ed Langdon & Free Agents - Tomlinson & Elliot.

IN - Ben King, Ed & Zac Langdon, Elliot, Tomlinson, Cody Weightman...

Keep pick 2 and use it on Anderson have faith in T.Mac, Weid, Petty and J.Smith.

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5 minutes ago, Vineytime said:

So potentially Tomlinson, Langdon & Elliot coming in, that’s a bit of salary cap space...

who makes way?

Lewis - yes

Frost - maybe

Others - ??

We finished 17th we should have salary cap space.

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1 hour ago, Vineytime said:

So potentially Tomlinson, Langdon & Elliot coming in, that’s a bit of salary cap space...

who makes way?

Lewis - yes

Frost - maybe

Others - ??

Lewis already retired, let's call that $400k

Garlett, probably another $400k

Jones 1 year deal with a haircut (somewhat ironic),  probably another 200k

I'm guessing we already had some wiggle room, we don't have any million dollar players. 

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4 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Tomlinson, Langdon, Elliot plus Anderson or Young in the draft is not a bad October trade/draft period.

Would've preferred one match winning mid with class such as Hill, Jack Martin or Coniglio.

Really hope GCS don't get 1 & 2 and we pick Anderson.

But how can you be certain GC would pick Rowell?

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1 hour ago, Redleg said:

But how can you be certain GC would pick Rowell?

Because they will.

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3 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Is Elliott really that likely? 1000-1 to move from Pies imo. I must have missed something 

The Pies can't afford everyone with De Goey, Grundy and Pendlebury all out of contract. That's what gives us a chance.

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39 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

The Pies can't afford everyone with De Goey, Grundy and Pendlebury all out of contract. That's what gives us a chance.

And Moore. It’s a nightmare for them. Imagine the dollars being thrown at JDG and Grundy next year. And if Moore somehow had an injury free year next year they’ll be pleading for them to take less. 

I think Elliot will likely stay but he might get a few more dollars in the contract. 

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2 hours ago, Redleg said:

But how can you be certain GC would pick Rowell?

I was talking to a mate today. They really lack grunt and an accumulator. Rowell not that big but I assume could be a bit like Prestia only slightly taller perhaps. I reckon they’ll go Rowell if they had to take one. Also he’s more of a sure thing early on. 

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2 hours ago, FlashInThePan said:

Lewis already retired, let's call that $400k

Garlett, probably another $400k

Jones 1 year deal with a haircut (somewhat ironic),  probably another 200k

I'm guessing we already had some wiggle room, we don't have any million dollar players. 

I think when we picked up Lever we had room for another big recruit. We then lost Hogan and got May. So there will be money. As you said Lewis Garlett and Jones will free up around a million. I also don’t think any of Langdon Tomlinson or Elliott would be demanding massive money. 

From the sounds of it we have Tomlinson and Langdon all but signed up. Elliott probably likely to stay at Collingwood. 

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5 hours ago, Redleg said:

But how can you be certain GC would pick Rowell?

Although I don’t think it’s a certainty, I think Rowell would suit GC more. Hard inside mid who will probably average 20-25 possessions a game in his first season, touted as a future Captain too, leadership qualities that GC need. At 178cm he’s 10cm shorter then Anderson but that shouldn’t be a factor for GC.

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10 hours ago, Hunt29 said:

I was talking to a mate today. They really lack grunt and an accumulator. Rowell not that big but I assume could be a bit like Prestia only slightly taller perhaps. I reckon they’ll go Rowell if they had to take one. Also he’s more of a sure thing early on. 

Thanks, that is a good answer.

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No way the GC are going to let King Go.. they will dig in, they cant let a player go, it will be counter productive to there push for priority. The AFL will make sure that they dont trade King, they get picks 1 & 2 and that they will hope like hell the environment gets better so King wants to stay.

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1 hour ago, Demon3 said:

No way the GC are going to let King Go.. they will dig in, they cant let a player go, it will be counter productive to there push for priority. The AFL will make sure that they dont trade King, they get picks 1 & 2 and that they will hope like hell the environment gets better so King wants to stay.

See i think the opposite. if they think it's likely King will go as soon as he can they may want to maximize value now, and pick 3 is certainly a good return. would be a win-win for both clubs.

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8 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

See i think the opposite. if they think it's likely King will go as soon as he can they may want to maximize value now, and pick 3 is certainly a good return. would be a win-win for both clubs.

Good points and i agree that it would be a good win for us Patches. Time will tell i suppose, hard to make a call either way right now.

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9 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

See i think the opposite. if they think it's likely King will go as soon as he can they may want to maximize value now, and pick 3 is certainly a good return. would be a win-win for both clubs.

 

No chance. GC aren’t looking for a win-win. They’re looking to make a statement, that players won’t be allowed to just leave each year, even if it means cutting off their nose to spite their face.

Similar to Port with nick stevens.

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