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Surely a professional fitness guru (Misson) would have given every recruit including May a fitness assessment when recruited/drafted and provided them with a guide to how to arrive for the pre-season.

You would expect each player's manager would have also given some guidance on what is expected of players.

It appears to be a breakdown in communication between the club and players. Not a Professional outfit!

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In Malthouses last season at Carlton, he was facing a large number of experienced players whom had had surgery or were recovering from injury. I remember because I took note that many of the 1sts whom I expected to be unavailable because of a lack of decent pre-seasoning, were picked for round one. They were beaten and a number played injured it seemed or became unavailable the following week. It had seemed to me that they were told to be professional and get out there.

I thought typical! But History seems to be repeating right here in River city.

 

 

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21 hours ago, Big Gun said:

Been reported on the Channel 7 pre-game today that May has had a major set back with his groin injury and will most likely not be back till July.

Can we blame Gold Coast for putting him back on the park after he clearly injured his groin?

 

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6 hours ago, bazza226 said:

Surely a professional fitness guru (Misson) would have given every recruit including May a fitness assessment when recruited/drafted and provided them with a guide to how to arrive for the pre-season.

You would expect each player's manager would have also given some guidance on what is expected of players.

It appears to be a breakdown in communication between the club and players. Not a Professional outfit!

Nothing to do with communication. All players are given an off season program and the majority of them have been around long enough to know what’s expected.  

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On 4/22/2019 at 4:14 PM, Demons11 said:

The recruiting of May is poor management?? What because he is injured? What a stupid comment. 

Well I think it was poor management!  Could not believe we allowed Hogan to go in exchange for a very ordinary, thuggish defender.  Bloody hell! Hogan had survived a serious back injury, testicular cancer and the death of his dad, and we simply waved him goodby .i calculated last year that his goals per match ratio was higher than that of Josh Kennedy after the same number of games.

sure, he had some problems.  What sort of character was Jack Riewoldt three or more years ago?

To those who were happy to rely on Weideman instead of Hogan, I hope you are enjoying the Weid's sparkling start to the season!

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3 minutes ago, Farmer said:

Well I think it was poor management!  Could not believe we allowed Hogan to go in exchange for a very ordinary, thuggish defender.  Bloody hell! Hogan had survived a serious back injury, testicular cancer and the death of his dad, and we simply waved him goodby .i calculated last year that his goals per match ratio was higher than that of Josh Kennedy after the same number of games.

sure, he had some problems.  What sort of character was Jack Riewoldt three or more years ago?

To those who were happy to rely on Weideman instead of Hogan, I hope you are enjoying the Weid's sparkling start to the season!

Who knew we had a fortune teller in our midst.

When you get a chance do you mind letting me know the lotto numbers and who will win this years Melb Cup?

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10 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

Injury update: May tracking well, 4 weeks away!

 

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9 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Out of interest what were their issues?   I recall training reports saying various players were in 'rehab' but more to do with tempo of work rather than injury.

Even so do you think those issues prevented them having a full preseason ie missed many training sessions or would still be affecting their performance?

ANB - knee

Hore - ankle surgery

TMac - Ankle surgery, both ankles

Hibberd - He missed a chunk but cant remember - quad or calf maybe?

I think the latter two, particularly TMac have been affected. On top of a shortened preseason, I expect it would be quite telling. For Hore, he missed a bit pre-Christmas but was also learning our system / game plan (such that it is) as well as getting back to fitness.

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https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2019-04-23/injury-update-jetta-and-preuss-sidelined

Steven May | Groin – 4 weeks

“Maysie’s going pretty well. He’s had a couple of weeks of running and is backing it up well – not getting too sore. It’s about progressing his speed and agility and obviously then getting him into some training and setting him up for a good backend of the year.”

 

So that moron on Channel 7 saying May had a setback and wont be back til July was talking rubbish?

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38 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2019-04-23/injury-update-jetta-and-preuss-sidelined

Steven May | Groin – 4 weeks

“Maysie’s going pretty well. He’s had a couple of weeks of running and is backing it up well – not getting too sore. It’s about progressing his speed and agility and obviously then getting him into some training and setting him up for a good backend of the year.”

 

So that moron on Channel 7 saying May had a setback and wont be back til July was talking rubbish?

Would be more likely to be right than Misson. May was supposed to be getting back for this week now he is tracking well and 4 weeks away.

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1 hour ago, Petraccattack said:

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2019-04-23/injury-update-jetta-and-preuss-sidelined

Steven May | Groin – 4 weeks

“Maysie’s going pretty well. He’s had a couple of weeks of running and is backing it up well – not getting too sore. It’s about progressing his speed and agility and obviously then getting him into some training and setting him up for a good backend of the year.”

 

So that moron on Channel 7 saying May had a setback and wont be back til July was talking rubbish?

He's not back yet ... all words at this stage

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Now preuss is missing with the same injury he carried into last week ... how about we play a fit side and let injured players heal ... Jetta started sore and only got worse!

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Really concerning for both AVB and KK. 

Will either play again this year? Ever?

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22 hours ago, DV8 said:

Maca is still on the bench,  this year.

IF there were serious issues between Maca and Goody,  or with players last year,  why was it we went so well in the 2nd half of 2018 ?

 

Maca went well as a developing coach with the Dogs... prior to being head coach there... and they won a flag with Beveridge...  Meaning Maca developed those kids fairly well,  me thinks.

Maca was also the development coach at the Catters for years,  and they certainly did very well around, and after his tenure,  at the Cats.

 

Nutshell, I don't think Maca is a bad issue.

Possibly he (maca) is putting the blame at the feet of the Players.   Is how I might speculate it.?

It is after all the players not the coaches who play the game, and only they can chase, shepherd, team up etc 

5 hours ago, Demons11 said:

Nothing to do with communication. All players are given an off season program and the majority of them have been around long enough to know what’s expected.  

So, 11, it is either poor instruction or poor implementation 

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Neville Jetta | Knee – 10-12

“Nev had an issue with his lateral meniscus. There was an incident in the second quarter that exacerbated that. He pulled up really sore after the game and after some consultation with our doc’s and surgeon, we decided to go down the surgical track.”

 

So Nev's injury was not a new one according to Misson...it just got worse. Go figure.

We know that all players carry injuries into games but to me Nev looked sore before the 2nd Q incident.

We're not handling these things well at the moment. 

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7 minutes ago, rjay said:

Neville Jetta | Knee – 10-12

“Nev had an issue with his lateral meniscus. There was an incident in the second quarter that exacerbated that. He pulled up really sore after the game and after some consultation with our doc’s and surgeon, we decided to go down the surgical track.”

 

So Nev's injury was not a new one according to Misson...it just got worse. Go figure.

We know that all players carry injuries into games but to me Nev looked sore before the 2nd Q incident.

We're not handling these things well at the moment. 

Which second quarter incident are they talking about? The injury report video that shows the Saints player diving across Nev’s leg happened in the first quarter.

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1 hour ago, rjay said:

Neville Jetta | Knee – 10-12

“Nev had an issue with his lateral meniscus. There was an incident in the second quarter that exacerbated that. He pulled up really sore after the game and after some consultation with our doc’s and surgeon, we decided to go down the surgical track.”

 

So Nev's injury was not a new one according to Misson...it just got worse. Go figure.

We know that all players carry injuries into games but to me Nev looked sore before the 2nd Q incident.

We're not handling these things well at the moment. 

Just came on here to post this.

So much for a 'new injury'.

Hardly shocking given he was limping around!

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So wait, we're ten pages in and ready to give Dr. Misson our fitness coach the Game of Throne's treatment because;

A) Jetta suffered an incidental (illegal) knock to the knee during a football contest.

B) Channel 7 said May won't be back for ten weeks, although the club says it's four?

Half the AFL players play with niggles and existing injuries week to week and play with the risk of exacerbating problems. See Ryder in round one vs. us - one misdirected hit and he could have been sidelined for a month or more.

MFC Roos cares about one thing - prior, during and since his departure : Paul's legacy. He did good at our club but everything since has been slanted toward this single fact. He also achieved one premiership in eight years at Sydney, 15 years ago.

Prior to this year, Goodwin - with his own plan - has achieved a 28 - 20 win/loss record, and took the MFC and almost all of its players to their first prelim in 18 years. But let's set the dragons on him too, because obviously he has no idea.

 

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8 hours ago, monoccular said:

It is after all the players not the coaches who play the game, and only they can chase, shepherd, team up etc 

So, 11, it is either poor instruction or poor implementation 

Surely the players take responsibility for not coming back in the shape. 

I’m sure they were given clear instructions on what they needed to do.  The clubs don’t need to baby the players, they are professional athletes.  This falls on the players. 

In saying that I don’t think the story is 100% accurate. Roos has had an agenda for a long time about having more access to players and this just gave him another opportunity to push this point. 

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12 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

ANB - knee

Hore - ankle surgery

TMac - Ankle surgery, both ankles

Hibberd - He missed a chunk but cant remember - quad or calf maybe?

I think the latter two, particularly TMac have been affected. On top of a shortened preseason, I expect it would be quite telling. For Hore, he missed a bit pre-Christmas but was also learning our system / game plan (such that it is) as well as getting back to fitness.

Thanks.

These are the articles I used https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2018-10-03/offseason-injury-update

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-12-08/wheres-your-club-at

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2019-01-23/preseason-injury-update-misson

And I couldn't find any ref to ANB, TMac and Hibberd. 

Not wishing to correct you directly - just to have the discussion on interrupted preseason and current performance in the right context as surgeries are being quoted as excuses for players and the team (not by yourself).

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2 hours ago, Skuit said:

So wait, we're ten pages in and ready to give Dr. Misson our fitness coach the Game of Throne's treatment because;

A) Jetta suffered an incidental (illegal) knock to the knee during a football contest.

B) Channel 7 said May won't be back for ten weeks, although the club says it's four?

Half the AFL players play with niggles and existing injuries week to week and play with the risk of exacerbating problems. See Ryder in round one vs. us - one misdirected hit and he could have been sidelined for a month or more.

MFC Roos cares about one thing - prior, during and since his departure : Paul's legacy. He did good at our club but everything since has been slanted toward this single fact. He also achieved one premiership in eight years at Sydney, 15 years ago.

Prior to this year, Goodwin - with his own plan - has achieved a 28 - 20 win/loss record, and took the MFC and almost all of its players to their first prelim in 18 years. But let's set the dragons on him too, because obviously he has no idea.

 

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