Post Game: Rd 5 v St. Kilda

[Wiseblood 24,636]

8 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Disappointed to to see Light-Beer and Mid-Strength Beer getting a run when Moonshine and Rocket-Fuel are wasting away in the twos.

 

 

We don't really deserve them.

[My name is legion 158]

At least we’ll give Carlton supporters some joy this year when they win their only game for the season against us.

[Thehardtackler 785]

I wonder if many of our players think that they earnt their their pay cheque last year and are trying to coast through this season!

[bobby1554 1,132]

45 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

I’m on record on here of being bullish on Weid and still think he will be a good player. In saying that ffs he runs under the ball at almost ever opportunity and then seems to just finger tip marking opps. 

Maybe he needs OPSM?

No, just two words for Sam....the first starts with F, the second with O

[My name is legion 158]

1 minute ago, bobby1554 said:

No, just two words for Sam....the first starts with F, the second with O

To the pies?

[Cards13 9,117]

41 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Or were they? I would suggest that internally, we knew the risks that we were taking, but went ahead now anyway, on the assumption (correct in my view) that this was never going to be our year for a flag, but next year might be.

I recall it being said on here the club got everyone who had an issue/niggle into surgery this off season. Thinking being 2020 is our window. 

As always, grain of salt but if true seems very odd.

The other thing I’ve struggle with over the last few years is this desire to get a player up for round 1. It means nothing, just get the player right and up to as much fitness as possible to play a game whenever that is.

Get the fittest/best/readiest for game plan team on the park in rnd 1. Don’t force a Jones or Viney into the side it doesn’t seem to work these days (unless the player is in the real top echelon).

[Docs Demons 1,656]

16 minutes ago, Redleg said:

To think that Petrucelle went about 10 picks after him. You know him, the bloke with pace to burn who kicked 5 this week.

I like Spargo, but he is not a small forward. He is small though. After his missed pass, the Saints kicked the next 8 goals. It was like it sucked the hope from his team mates.

We have a gameplan that has been destroyed by opposition clubs and a total reluctance to accept what the whole football world has seen. To simply say we have to get better is pathetic. We bleed goals under our gameplan and no Coach is doing anything about it.

It is hard to criticize the players when they match the opposition in disposals, beat them easily in inside 50's, but have a gameplan that kills the benefit of inside 50's and bleeds easy goals to the opposition.

If you want to know how confused our players are, watch when we get the ball and hesitate, because we don't know what to do and then get caught with the ball.

If we had gone man on man in the 3rd quarter we could have stopped the avalanche and had a chance to come back from a few goals down and not 8.

We have Plan A and no other.

We lack pace and skill and haven't addressed it in the last few years.

IMO our FD is guilty of gross negligence in their handling of the list and style of footy we play.

 

Concur and why the hell did they start Lewis on wing and only put him back late when he actually got a few touches. Mind boggling stuff by our coaches.

[My name is legion 158]

Weidemann

to the Pies

Where he’ll be a star and kick 500 goals 

Edited April 20, 2019 by My name is legion

[Thehardtackler 785]

Well at least Garlett will be playing on Wednesday. Goodwin tells you who he is bringing in at the end of post match press conferences sometimes. He said Lewis and Jetta after Sydney. He mentioned Garlett and one other this evening.

[My name is legion 158]

1 minute ago, Docs Demons said:

Concur and why the hell did they start Lewis on wing and only put him back late when he actually got a few touches. Mind boggling stuff by our coaches.

Given that their collective IQ is 1 it wouldn’t take much to boggle their minds.

[Cards13 9,117]

16 minutes ago, RedButMostlyBlue said:

Love this track, and Gallows at this time were great. Saw them live at Festy Hall, was nuts.

Great reference, feels like this a lot of the time.

Weren’t they just!! Frank is a total loon. Saw them at BDO and loved it. 

Was the Festy Hall gig in support of someone else? Have a vague recollection of a couple of gigs there.. Parkway, Hatebreed  and can’t remember if Gallows was support.

[bobby1554 1,132]

1 minute ago, Thehardtackler said:

Well at least Garlett will be playing on Wednesday. Goodwin tells you who he is bringing in at the end of post match press conferences sometimes. He said Lewis and Jetta after Sydney. He mentioned Garlett and one other this evening.

Yes, I believe the other is Neita making a comeback. Would have about as much impact as Jeffy. The reality is that there is NO-ONE who can come in that would be an improvement on today’s 22. If that 22 that played today had any self respect and pride for the jumper they play in, then it rests solely with them to redeem themselves. Today was a disgrace. This club has promised us success with first the Roos/Jackson era, now the Goodwin succession. Goody telling us supporters pre-season to get on board and make the G a cauldron for visiting teams. Words just words. FFS we can’t even bloody well win there!!!!! 

[Skuit 9,112]

Maybe instead of an honesty circle we can try an honesty man-on-man this week.

[Deesprate 1,161]

3 hours ago, Nasher said:

How can you possibly pinpoint which coach is directly responsible for this problem from the outside?

Toughen up the guys responsible for pathetic set up in defence. He deserves balance. These guys live the life of Riley if they don’t cut it stuff the sensitivities.

[Hellish Inferno 992]

Our inability to make ground ball gets (not including stoppages) is horrible. We continuously get stuck in no mans land while the opposition have several players at each contest and are first to the loose ball. Also due to their correct positioning, reading of the play and staying down when their teammate makes the contest. Just basic stuff we've failed to do this year.

[Deesprate 1,161]

3 minutes ago, Hellish Inferno said:

Our inability to make ground ball gets (not including stoppages) is horrible. We continuously get stuck in no mans land while the opposition have several players at each contest and are first to the loose ball. Also due to their correct positioning, reading of the play and staying down when their teammate makes the contest. Just basic stuff we've failed to do this year.

It called coaching. Saints were well drilled where a shambles

[DeeZee 6,719]

It really doesn’t matter who plays on Wednesday it’s year over anyway.

[Constant Mongrel 571]

1 hour ago, Wiseblood said:

BEST 22 WAYS YOU CAN DROWN YOUR SORROWS:

B:  RUM,  WHISKEY, VODKA

HB:  LIGHT BEER, RED WINE, GIN

C  SCOTCH, BOURBON, MID STRENGTH BEER

HF:  WHITE WINE, BEER, MOSCATO

FF:  UDL, PORT, JAGERMEISTER

R:  LEMON RUSKI, PALE ALE, STOUT

BENCH:  OUZO, MIDORI, BACARDI, BAILEYS

one change: ouzo to replace light beer..weak as [censored]

[Deesprate 1,161]

It not the losing, it not the players, it not the coach it the absolute inevitability of following a basket case of a club. Through the rebuild I was patient as I believed in Roos and Jackson. We would lose but you felt step were being made in the right direction. Not now I have no confidence in any leadership level of this club from the chair (Mr Invisible) down. Losing is one thing but hope has been destroyed. We are looking at another re build there is absolutely nothing redeeming about where we are at. Don’t believe the crap about bring on Richmond they are seriously channeling Brad Green. We are heading for bottom four and what so depressing is we will butcher any high end draft pick but be sold a load of crap that we are on the right track. I honestly believe we are destined for years at the bottom it just the natural order of thing.

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

4 hours ago, watchtheeyes said:

I don’t buy in to the emotive crap, no heart, passengers etc etc.

There have no doubt been some really bad performances (Lewis, Spargo, McDonald, Jones etc), but this is so clearly coaching to me I’m astounded others don’t see it.

Structure, selection and game day. It appalling and questions must be asked!!!

This comment is so accurate. Go back and look at the way we lined up each quarter. In the 3rd we played Jones and Lewis on the wings and we were completely smashed because of it. That’s Goodwin . Not the players. Pisssss off Simon. Get ya head out of ya assss

[Hellish Inferno 992]

11 minutes ago, Deesprate said:

It called coaching. Saints were well drilled where a shambles

Yep, well drilled teams almost always prevail over chaos

[John Demonic 4,782]

On 4/20/2019 at 1:00 PM, one_demon said:

You can't say we should of got five free kicks, twenty metres out, because if the first free kick is paid, then the future takes on a different path from that point onwards.

 

[titan_uranus 22,220]

I've seen people in here having a crack at Gawn. He might be down on form, but I reckon having a go at Gawn is pissweak and as embarrassing as our current performances are.

Got me thinking about our leadership again though. Our 100+ game players are Lewis, Jones, Garlett, Melksham, TMac, Jetta, Hibberd, May, Gawn and Viney. Two of them aren't playing. Of the other 8, none of them are playing as well as they can and only Gawn is playing at a reasonable level consistently (Viney has been OK). Jones can't stop himself from the up-and-under long kicks and is making more skill errors by the week. TMac and Melksham are a big part of our current problem - they're not taking marks inside 50, they're not bringing the ball to ground in a way which helps us, and they're not providing enough defensive pressure. Hibberd is playing so poorly he should be dropped, while Lewis and Jetta have had no impact on our season so far due to injury.

We can't stop opposition sides from getting a run on and there's only so much Goodwin can do without a runner to get messages out there (not saying there's nothing wrong with our coaching). It doesn't help that we have no senior players to turn to when we need some leadership.

[picket fence 15,059]

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

To think that Petrucelle went about 10 picks after him. You know him, the bloke with pace to burn who kicked 5 this week.

I like Spargo, but he is not a small forward. He is small though. After his missed pass, the Saints kicked the next 8 goals. It was like it sucked the hope from his team mates.

We have a gameplan that has been destroyed by opposition clubs and a total reluctance to accept what the whole football world has seen. To simply say we have to get better is pathetic. We bleed goals under our gameplan and no Coach is doing anything about it.

It is hard to criticize the players when they match the opposition in disposals, beat them easily in inside 50's, but have a gameplan that kills the benefit of inside 50's and bleeds easy goals to the opposition.

If you want to know how confused our players are, watch when we get the ball and hesitate, because we don't know what to do and then get caught with the ball.

If we had gone man on man in the 3rd quarter we could have stopped the avalanche and had a chance to come back from a few goals down and not 8.

We have Plan A and no other.

We lack pace and skill and haven't addressed it in the last few years.

IMO our FD is guilty of gross negligence in their handling of the list and style of footy we play.

 

I had this exact same conversation with a mate of mine who played for the Dees years ago! He said exactly the same thing.

Hnmm is the Coaching staff up to it???

[Pirlo 518]

Let's just hope this year is a step backwards (albeit a large one) for two steps forward. We're woefully underprepared for the rule changes, and that doesn't change. Leg speed and natural crumbers will be the order of the day when it comes trade time. Unfortunately, we have nobody of real use to trade so will need to hope for a JT first round special.