The 2019 Mid Season Draft

[Siren 156]

11 minutes ago, old dee said:

Do we need another midget?

Hirst is more the size of Lockhart rather than Spargo. 

Dunkley is a strong, tackling mid. 

[Moonshadow 15,660]

I think we will pass.

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[John Demonic 4,597]

1 hour ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Open to anyone.

 

 

Anyone that applied for last years end of season draft correct?

[Bring-Back-Powell 12,350]

Are we still a sniff to re-draft Toumpas?

[TeamPlayedFine39 7,975]

3 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

Anyone that applied for last years end of season draft correct?

Who can clubs recruit?

Clubs will be able to draft any footballers who have already been on an AFL list, or who nominated for the 2018 NAB AFL Draft.

Any player delisted at the end of 2018 cannot be re-selected by the club that delisted them, unless they nominated for last year's NAB AFL Draft.

There will be a five-day window for players to nominate for the Mid-Season Rookie Draft from Monday April 29 to Friday May 3.

[george_on_the_outer 6,439]

We should be picking a young player who can be developed rather than a solitary player who may be able to play this year. 

Our problem is injuries, so when (if) those players return, it would be unlikely for a "ready made" to get a game....i.e. a wasted pick.

As well we have a whole raft of players who will retire or be delisted this year.  I could give a list of 7 today who would not affect the present or future performance of the club. 

We don't need another one who would be added to that list.  We need to think about the future, not this season, which is already shot.

[Diamond_Jim 11,295]

6 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

We should be picking a young player who can be developed rather than a solitary player who may be able to play this year. 

Our problem is injuries, so when (if) those players return, it would be unlikely for a "ready made" to get a game....i.e. a wasted pick.

As well we have a whole raft of players who will retire or be delisted this year.  I could give a list of 7 today who would not affect the present or future performance of the club. 

We don't need another one who would be added to that list.  We need to think about the future, not this season, which is already shot.

great theory but hard in practice.

In the national draft these players would be picks 70 plus. Very hard to recognise potential at that point.

It's simple ... best available but not a small please. Our depth is so sadly lacking even a project depth player would be a plus.

[DeeSpencer 22,048]

Why don’t we:

- Retire Lewis and Garlett

- Inactive list Vanders and maybe even Jetta

Take 4 or even 5 picks. It’s 50k a pick, plus 20k if they’re delisted at the end of the year. 

We know Lewis and Garlett are done so why not look at replacements now? We’ve also got Stretch, J Wagner, JKH, Maynard, Jones and other options to come off the list at the end of the year. 

There’s usually plenty of 19 year olds or state league types taken in the 2nd-4th round of the draft. Some work, some don’t. Why not take a huge roll of the dice?

[Redleg 36,099]

10 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Why don’t we:

- Retire Lewis and Garlett

- Inactive list Vanders and maybe even Jetta

Take 4 or even 5 picks. It’s 50k a pick, plus 20k if they’re delisted at the end of the year. 

We know Lewis and Garlett are done so why not look at replacements now? We’ve also got Stretch, J Wagner, JKH, Maynard, Jones and other options to come off the list at the end of the year. 

There’s usually plenty of 19 year olds or state league types taken in the 2nd-4th round of the draft. Some work, some don’t. Why not take a huge roll of the dice?

Maybe a bit too much with 4-5  but would agree with taking at least 2 picks if we could LTI a player.

I would look for best key forward and best skillful/pacy player around and if a 3rd pick was possible a young Jeffy type, as Bedford will be a way off if he even makes it.

More than likely however we will go very conservative and take only one pick.

Not clearing AVB to the Swans for a pick or player, is turning out another disaster for us with him unable to get on the park again.

Edited May 27, 2019 by Redleg

[TeamPlayedFine39 7,975]

Don’t understand the gloom about the mid-season draft- I’m a bit excited by the prospects.  Tim Kelly was playing WALF two years ago.

Plenty of high quality players plucked from the state leagues in the last few years!

[DeeSpencer 22,048]

8 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Maybe a bit too much with 4-5  but would agree with taking at least 2 picks if we could LTI a player.

I would look for best key forward and best skillful/pacy player around and if a 3rd pick was possible a young Jeffy type, as Bedford will be a way off if he even makes it.

More than likely however we will go very conservative and take only one pick.

Not clearing AVB to the Swans for a pick or player, is turning out another disaster for us with him unable to get on the park again.

Clearly I don’t know of the salary cap implications, nor do I know of the cultural implications of retiring or making inactive a bunch of senior players. 

I just think teams are being super conservative with a new rule whilst usually teams find advantages by being creative or bold. We’ve seen it with academy pick trading, future pick trading, the Tigers taking Sydney Stack etc etc 

My plan is probably more of the Mark Neeld style moneyball but if these picks are all 10-20% chance of being a good player I’d rather multiple swings. 

[John Demonic 4,597]

35 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Not clearing AVB to the Swans for a pick or player, is turning out another disaster for us with him unable to get on the park again.

Bit harsh. His impact last year was worth the years he toiled away in rehab for us taking up a spot on the list. I don't think many players or picks would give us that kind of bang for buck. He has all year to get right for next year and make another big impact.

Edited May 27, 2019 by John Demonic

[ding 5,126]

Its obvious that speed is one of the teams major deficiencies, along with silky skill.

That in mind, i can see Goodwin insisting that we draft the player who can say "Connection going forward" with perfect enunciation, in the shortest possible time.

He will also insist that they remain unflappably positive even after dropping several vowels in a row, and slurring the last 10 words.

Actual footballing ability not to be considered.

Because MFC.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 15,886]

1 hour ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Who can clubs recruit?

Clubs will be able to draft any footballers who have already been on an AFL list, or who nominated for the 2018 NAB AFL Draft.

Any player delisted at the end of 2018 cannot be re-selected by the club that delisted them, unless they nominated for last year's NAB AFL Draft.

There will be a five-day window for players to nominate for the Mid-Season Rookie Draft from Monday April 29 to Friday May 3.

This would seem to suggest that a player who has just retired (meaning players like Tom Boyd, Shaun Grigg, etc but not specifically them) could be drafted by another club, although I suspect that part of their retirement agreement with the club they have just left would have some form of restriction (a "non-compete clause") to stop this from happening.

 

[Mickey 4,153]

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

This would seem to suggest that a player who has just retired (meaning players like Tom Boyd, Shaun Grigg, etc but not specifically them) could be drafted by another club, although I suspect that part of their retirement agreement with the club they have just left would have some form of restriction (a "non-compete clause") to stop this from happening.

 

Pretty sure they don't get taken off the list until the end of the year, regardless of when they retire.

[TeamPlayedFine39 7,975]

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

This would seem to suggest that a player who has just retired (meaning players like Tom Boyd, Shaun Grigg, etc but not specifically them) could be drafted by another club, although I suspect that part of their retirement agreement with the club they have just left would have some form of restriction (a "non-compete clause") to stop this from happening.

 

It said later in the article that players who retired last year (Cyril Rioli) could only be in the mid-season draft if they'd also nominated for the 2018 National Draft.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-02-07/midseason-draft-when-is-it-and-how-will-it-work

 

 

[GM11 642]

Too bad this guy doesn't qualify. Looks fit enough.

[What 18,810]

Come on Jason Taylor, pluck us another A Jakovich  or L Jurrah from somewhere.   There are surely hidden gems all over Australia.   Inject some excitement into this boring club.

[Ugottobekidding 777]

On 5/9/2019 at 8:57 PM, DV8 said:

... he sounds all-right,  Oxen.  Interesting read.

Ben kelly could be a player

[Redleg 36,099]

27 minutes ago, GM11 said:

Too bad this guy doesn't qualify. Looks fit enough.

Rather him kicking for goal than most of our players.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 15,886]

50 minutes ago, Good Lord George said:

Pretty sure they don't get taken off the list until the end of the year, regardless of when they retire.

Good point. I assume the retirement allows the clubs from which they retire to draft another player as the retiree can be considered the equivalent of a long term injury.

[Ugottobekidding 777]

4 hours ago, Siren said:

Hirst is more the size of Lockhart rather than Spargo. 

Dunkley is a strong, tackling mid. 

He is very skinny too.

[dazzledavey36 47,836]

Kyle Dunkley is now tipped to be picked up by us.

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 3,924]

We need Pace (outside mid) or a decent forward. You wont find that in the midseason draft.

[TeamPlayedFine39 7,975]

17 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Kyle Dunkley is now tipped to be picked up by us.

Who are GC tipped to take?

Dunkley was a shoe-in for number 1 a week ago.