The 2019 Mid Season Draft

[junk 342]

Would like to see us pick White for Casey based on his form and the fact he was on the Dees list years ago.

 

[Lucifers Hero 36,991]

With the retirement of Shaun Grigg and Tom Boyd raises a new recruiting channel, effectively an extra pick.

If a player retires at EOS a club gets no additional picks to replace him.  But if a play retires before mid season the club gets a new, effectively an extra pick; a pick that can be used on a recent non-drafted player a club had their eyes on who has improved.

A good case to hold over retirements until the following year.

[Lucifers Hero 36,991]

A new name to put in the mix: Cody Hirst in Demon's sights

"Returning to the Ranges as a 19-year-old has been hugely beneficial for the ex-Lilydale junior, who supports the Demons and lists Nathan Jones as his favourite player.

Champion Data rates Hirst elite for uncontested possessions and above average for ranking points, disposals, contested possessions, goals, score assists and tackles in 2019.

He’s been used on a wing this season, where the clever 180cm prospect has been his team’s most influential player on at least two occasions already and among the best in three other matches.

But insiders say he’s far more likely to be drafted as an agile forward-flanker rather than an out-and-out midfielder. 

He’s got a lot of tricks, he’s a very smart player, he’s been able to build a bit of a tank to be able to play up the ground,” Eastern coach Darren Bewick told the Herald Sun recently.

“He’s just very smart with his footy knowledge and his ability to use the ball by foot.”

Not sure we need another contested type but I like that he is a demon supporter, has good footy IQ, has above average or elite rating this season, plays on the wing and has ability to use the ball by foot.

On paper he sound better than the other prospects we have been linked to.

The four clubs interested are:  Sydney, Richmond, Melbourne and Carlton. 

[Deefiant 427]

23 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

With the retirement of Shaun Grigg and Tom Boyd raises a new recruiting channel, effectively an extra pick.

If a player retires at EOS a club gets no additional picks to replace him.  But if a play retires before mid season the club gets a new, effectively an extra pick; a pick that can be used on a recent non-drafted player a club had their eyes on who has improved.

A good case to hold over retirements until the following year.

I kinda get what you are saying but don't think any clubs would do this in practice. If you dont retire them early you're effectively a list spot down with a player who you dont think will contribute much to the team in the next season. 

[Mach5 4,482]

On 5/17/2019 at 3:43 PM, Lucifer's Hero said:

A new name to put in the mix: Cody Hirst in Demon's sights

"Returning to the Ranges as a 19-year-old has been hugely beneficial for the ex-Lilydale junior, who supports the Demons and lists Nathan Jones as his favourite player.

Champion Data rates Hirst elite for uncontested possessions and above average for ranking points, disposals, contested possessions, goals, score assists and tackles in 2019.

He’s been used on a wing this season, where the clever 180cm prospect has been his team’s most influential player on at least two occasions already and among the best in three other matches.

But insiders say he’s far more likely to be drafted as an agile forward-flanker rather than an out-and-out midfielder. 

He’s got a lot of tricks, he’s a very smart player, he’s been able to build a bit of a tank to be able to play up the ground,” Eastern coach Darren Bewick told the Herald Sun recently.

“He’s just very smart with his footy knowledge and his ability to use the ball by foot.”

Not sure we need another contested type but I like that he is a demon supporter, has good footy IQ, has above average or elite rating this season, plays on the wing and has ability to use the ball by foot.

On paper he sound better than the other prospects we have been linked to.

The four clubs interested are:  Sydney, Richmond, Melbourne and Carlton. 

Crossing my fingers that Hirst is available at our selection.

Not so much for the romance of a supporter playing for our club, but much moreso for the fact his agility is his strength and I see him as a similar type to Hannan, whose absence has been heavily understated in regards to its impact on our performance.

Sadly i think he’ll be gone by the time our pick comes around.

[Adzman 2,085]

Grabbing a teenager with upside might pay dividends down the track.

Hirst looks a good selection if he is on the board.

[Mach5 4,482]

1 minute ago, Adzman said:

Grabbing a teenager with upside might pay dividends down the track.

Hirst looks a good selection if he is on the board.

 

Definitely won’t be filling gaps for a tilt at the flag, that’s for sure

[Lord Travis 10,158]

On 5/17/2019 at 3:43 PM, Lucifer's Hero said:

A new name to put in the mix: Cody Hirst in Demon's sights

"Returning to the Ranges as a 19-year-old has been hugely beneficial for the ex-Lilydale junior, who supports the Demons and lists Nathan Jones as his favourite player.

Champion Data rates Hirst elite for uncontested possessions and above average for ranking points, disposals, contested possessions, goals, score assists and tackles in 2019.

He’s been used on a wing this season, where the clever 180cm prospect has been his team’s most influential player on at least two occasions already and among the best in three other matches.

But insiders say he’s far more likely to be drafted as an agile forward-flanker rather than an out-and-out midfielder. 

He’s got a lot of tricks, he’s a very smart player, he’s been able to build a bit of a tank to be able to play up the ground,” Eastern coach Darren Bewick told the Herald Sun recently.

“He’s just very smart with his footy knowledge and his ability to use the ball by foot.”

Not sure we need another contested type but I like that he is a demon supporter, has good footy IQ, has above average or elite rating this season, plays on the wing and has ability to use the ball by foot.

On paper he sound better than the other prospects we have been linked to.

The four clubs interested are:  Sydney, Richmond, Melbourne and Carlton. 

Sounds potentially like a Jaiden Stephenson type? I’m all for taking him if so!

[Lucifers Hero 36,991]

14 hours ago, Mach5 said:

Crossing my fingers that Hirst is available at our selection.

Not so much for the romance of a supporter playing for our club, but much moreso for the fact his agility is his strength and I see him as a similar type to Hannan, whose absence has been heavily understated in regards to its impact on our performance.

Sadly i think he’ll be gone by the time our pick comes around.

It looks like Carlton, North, Gold Coast and maybe Sydney will be below us for the draft.  From what I can tell so far interest is:

• Sam Lowson:  North, Carlton, Sydney and Melbourne
• Kyle Dunkley:  Sydney, Carlton, Gold Coast and Richmond
• Cody Hirst:  Sydney, Carlton, Melbourne and Richmond.

Would love to beat GWS next week than have an earlier pick in this draft.  But if we lose we will be below Sydney  and wouldn't mind a % age below GCS's but just for this week!

Optimistically, given how badly Carlton were smashed in the middle yesterday they could do with Dunkley.  North can then take Lowson and hopefully GCS have their eyes on someone else and Hirst slips thru to us.  ? 

Pessimistically, he is gone before our pick?

This draft will be more interesting than I had thought to see if 'we get our man'!

Edited May 19, 2019 by Lucifer's Hero

[ArtificialWisdom 3,848]

On 5/17/2019 at 3:43 PM, Lucifer's Hero said:

A new name to put in the mix: Cody Hirst in Demon's sights

"Returning to the Ranges as a 19-year-old has been hugely beneficial for the ex-Lilydale junior, who supports the Demons and lists Nathan Jones as his favourite player.

Champion Data rates Hirst elite for uncontested possessions and above average for ranking points, disposals, contested possessions, goals, score assists and tackles in 2019.

He’s been used on a wing this season, where the clever 180cm prospect has been his team’s most influential player on at least two occasions already and among the best in three other matches.

But insiders say he’s far more likely to be drafted as an agile forward-flanker rather than an out-and-out midfielder. 

He’s got a lot of tricks, he’s a very smart player, he’s been able to build a bit of a tank to be able to play up the ground,” Eastern coach Darren Bewick told the Herald Sun recently.

“He’s just very smart with his footy knowledge and his ability to use the ball by foot.”

Not sure we need another contested type but I like that he is a demon supporter, has good footy IQ, has above average or elite rating this season, plays on the wing and has ability to use the ball by foot.

On paper he sound better than the other prospects we have been linked to.

The four clubs interested are:  Sydney, Richmond, Melbourne and Carlton. 

Competitive, skilled by foot and comfortable on the wing? I'd take him in a heartbeat. We've seen what happens when we try to put players like Jones or Brayshaw and before them Tyson on the wing. The wing is the place inside ball winners go to die. 

[Diamond_Jim 11,731]

sorry if this has been asked but what is the minimum contract period that you must offer to these draftees.

If another position were to become available on the list prior to the draft can you select two players

thanks

[Lucifers Hero 36,991]

2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

sorry if this has been asked but what is the minimum contract period that you must offer to these draftees.

If another position were to become available on the list prior to the draft can you select two players

thanks

Quote below is the best I could find.

Midseason Draft

Players selected in the Mid-Season Rookie Draft will be able to negotiate terms of a new contract beyond 2019, just like any other listed player.

Meantime, it is also believed that any player selected in the Mid-Season Rookie Draft that is not retained by their club, or selected by any other club at the end of 2019, will receive a financial sum of around $20,000.

Re yr second question:  Yes, a club can select as many players as it has list vacancies.

Edited May 20, 2019 by Lucifer's Hero

[Diamond_Jim 11,731]

1 minute ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Quote below is the best I could find.

Midseason Draft

Players selected in the Mid-Season Rookie Draft will be able to negotiate terms of a new contract beyond 2019, just like any other listed player.

Meantime, it is also believed that any player selected in the Mid-Season Rookie Draft that is not retained by their club, or selected by any other club at the end of 2019, will receive a financial sum of around $20,000.

Re yr second question:  Yes, a club can select as many players as it has list vacancies.

thanks LH.. the six month minimum is interesting. If a team behind us in the draft offers the same potential draftee say a one year deal when we offer a six month deal I wonder if the draftee has a choice of club.

[spirit of norm smith 12,886]

Cody Hirst or Mitch Riordan.  Both were top 30 draft prospects from 2018 but had a year wrecked by injury and missed out.  Probably they’ll spend the rest of the year at Casey in development.  Hirst is preferred.  

Corey Gault remains an option as a strong tall forward given Weideman seems to have stalled and Tim Smith yet to put up his hand.  

[DV8 2,271]

32 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Cody Hirst or Mitch Riordan.  Both were top 30 draft prospects from 2018 but had a year wrecked by injury and missed out.  Probably they’ll spend the rest of the year at Casey in development.  Hirst is preferred.  

Corey Gault remains an option as a strong tall forward given Weideman seems to have stalled and Tim Smith yet to put up his hand.  

#18 Mitch Riordan

Over-ager Riordan has built a good case to be picked up in the mid-season draft after an interrupted top-age year, and was damaging from stoppages around the ground in this outing. Riordan’s run from congestion was great to watch, with an explosive first five steps allowing him to break forward quickly and dispose of the ball effectively in more space, while also flicking out handballs well. Repeat efforts in-close helped him tally his 25 disposals, including five clearances, but Riordan also contributed well in handball chains – using his pace to good effect.

https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/tag/cody-hirst/

 

#17 Cody Hirst

The smart wingman ran hard all day, with most of his 31 disposals being won in the Eastern back half (six rebounds). The impressive midfielder possesses clean hands and skills, always finding a target by foot even when there seemingly is no option. On a day where most players opted to kick it long down the line or bomb it inside 50, Hirst’s clever ball use stood out. Covers the ground with ease and loves to take a bounce. Hirst had a huge last quarter and willed his team over the line.

[DV8 2,271]

#15 Angus Hanrahan

Starting on the wing, the top—ager showcased his signature class and polish but also his two-way running in another strong performance. Finishing with 27 disposals and nine marks, perhaps the most telling stats for Hanrahan was his four rebounds and six inside 50s, highlighting a willingness to work both ways for the Dragons. Kicked a show-stopping goal on his opposite foot from the boundary and would’ve had a day out had he taken two opportunities running into the goals in the second and last quarters. Was a class above in the first half and was the leading disposal winner at the main break but drifted out early in the 4th when the game was in the balance. Sound performance from the wingman and is building a strong case to be selected in the mid-season/end of season draft.

 

#5 Ryan Byrnes

The zippy midfielder continued his strong form, finishing with a team-high 28 disposals and five inside 50s. Byrnes trademark explosive burst out of the stoppage was on show all day, easily manoeuvring his way past his Eastern opponents and driving the ball long inside 50. Used the ball well when others let themselves down in this department and never stopped trying. Byrnes looks a well-rounded prospect, who covers the ground well and is adept at winning the ball from the inside of the contest and utilising his speed to run and carry the ball. Overall was outstanding for the Dragons and was just about their best player.

 

#13 Jay Rantall

Best player on the ground. Key in the Rebels moving the ball effectively out of the backline and midfield and one of the few players who wanted to take the game on and make the play instead of just kicking to a pack. His link up run and intelligent handballing were extremely impressive, and broke the game open. Good overhead, good below his knees, and hit most of his targets on the day. 10/10 game.

Australian basketballer Jay Rantall among Hampden footballers chasing TAC Cup spot in 2019

https://www.standard.net.au/story/5771191/aussie-basketballer-chasing-a-kick-of-the-sherrin-photos-video/

MULTI-TALENTED teenager Jay Rantall is throwing himself into TAC Cup pre-season with Greater Western Victoria Rebels.

The South Warrnambool footballer is vying for a spot as a top-age player in 2019 after spending most of this year dedicating himself to basketball.

Rantall, 17, represented Australia in basketball at the FIBA Under 17 World Cup in July, donning the green and gold jersey as a shooting guard.

South Warrnambool footballer Jay Rantall collects 37 disposals for NAB League side GWV Rebels

https://www.standard.net.au/story/6119214/rebels-rantall-racks-up-touches/

SOUTH Warrnambool footballer Jay Rantall remains one of the NAB League's in-form players.

The midfielder collected a game-high 37 disposals in the Greater Western Victoria Rebels' 14.10 (94) to 9.8 (62) loss to Northern Knights at Ballarat's Mars Stadium on Sunday.

Rantall, 17, had 13 kicks and 24 handballs.

The former Australian junior basketballer has averaged 25 possessions across his six games this season after choosing to focus on football.

[DV8 2,271]

On 5/20/2019 at 11:27 PM, DV8 said:

#18 Mitch Riordan

Over-ager Riordan has built a good case to be picked up in the mid-season draft after an interrupted top-age year, and was damaging from stoppages around the ground in this outing. Riordan’s run from congestion was great to watch, with an explosive first five steps allowing him to break forward quickly and dispose of the ball effectively in more space, while also flicking out handballs well. Repeat efforts in-close helped him tally his 25 disposals, including five clearances, but Riordan also contributed well in handball chains – using his pace to good effect.

How a mid-season draft fancy got out of 'a pretty dark spot'

"Riordan, an inside midfielder capable of bursting away from stoppages, started the 2018 season with one goal in mind: to be an AFL footballer by November. 

There was even optimistic talk inside the Stingrays camp that the now 19-year-old might end up being a first or second-round draft pick."

 

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-05-24/how-a-midseason-draft-fancy-riordan-got-out-of-a-pretty-dark-spot

"He is averaging 19.7 disposals – including amassing 48 possessions across his past two games – five inside 50s and 4.7 tackles in the NAB League in 2019. "

 

"Riordan's "fantastic" form,  in Flanigan's words, has helped renew AFL interest in him, with Adelaide and Sydney believed to be among his potential suitors. 

He was one of 25 NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft hopefuls to be medically assessed on Wednesday, as per request from multiple AFL clubs."

 

 

[spirit of norm smith 12,886]

Riordan is a very good young player.  Now he’s fully fit he has shown he is definitely AFL quality.  But Hirst is more likely if we stay with a youngster.  

[Hunt29 258]

If we go for one of the U18 players Hirst seems a good pick. If not I wouldn’t mind a small forward. Pressure clever around goal and pace the key. 

[Thehardtackler 785]

Who else is going to want to draft a self confessed Nathan Jones/ Melbourne fan. These things are normally stated by the media because they know something about a future destination and done deals.

[Dee Zephyr 17,411]

Anyone know anything about Frank Anderson? There’s been a fair bit of talk about him on radio in the last few days.

Frank Anderson has gone from obscurity to intriguing prospect ahead of Monday's NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-05-25/from-suburban-footy-to-centrestage-ballwinners-blistering-rise

[What 18,810]

Surely under 18s arent eligible for the mid season draft?

[Mach5 4,482]

19 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Surely under 18s arent eligible for the mid season draft?

You’re right, they’re not.

[58er 5,607]

On 5/21/2019 at 12:12 AM, DV8 said:

#15 Angus Hanrahan

Starting on the wing, the top—ager showcased his signature class and polish but also his two-way running in another strong performance. Finishing with 27 disposals and nine marks, perhaps the most telling stats for Hanrahan was his four rebounds and six inside 50s, highlighting a willingness to work both ways for the Dragons. Kicked a show-stopping goal on his opposite foot from the boundary and would’ve had a day out had he taken two opportunities running into the goals in the second and last quarters. Was a class above in the first half and was the leading disposal winner at the main break but drifted out early in the 4th when the game was in the balance. Sound performance from the wingman and is building a strong case to be selected in the mid-season/end of season draft.

 

#5 Ryan Byrnes

The zippy midfielder continued his strong form, finishing with a team-high 28 disposals and five inside 50s. Byrnes trademark explosive burst out of the stoppage was on show all day, easily manoeuvring his way past his Eastern opponents and driving the ball long inside 50. Used the ball well when others let themselves down in this department and never stopped trying. Byrnes looks a well-rounded prospect, who covers the ground well and is adept at winning the ball from the inside of the contest and utilising his speed to run and carry the ball. Overall was outstanding for the Dragons and was just about their best player.

 

#13 Jay Rantall

Best player on the ground. Key in the Rebels moving the ball effectively out of the backline and midfield and one of the few players who wanted to take the game on and make the play instead of just kicking to a pack. His link up run and intelligent handballing were extremely impressive, and broke the game open. Good overhead, good below his knees, and hit most of his targets on the day. 10/10 game.

Australian basketballer Jay Rantall among Hampden footballers chasing TAC Cup spot in 2019

https://www.standard.net.au/story/5771191/aussie-basketballer-chasing-a-kick-of-the-sherrin-photos-video/

MULTI-TALENTED teenager Jay Rantall is throwing himself into TAC Cup pre-season with Greater Western Victoria Rebels.

The South Warrnambool footballer is vying for a spot as a top-age player in 2019 after spending most of this year dedicating himself to basketball.

Rantall, 17, represented Australia in basketball at the FIBA Under 17 World Cup in July, donning the green and gold jersey as a shooting guard.

South Warrnambool footballer Jay Rantall collects 37 disposals for NAB League side GWV Rebels

https://www.standard.net.au/story/6119214/rebels-rantall-racks-up-touches/

SOUTH Warrnambool footballer Jay Rantall remains one of the NAB League's in-form players.

The midfielder collected a game-high 37 disposals in the Greater Western Victoria Rebels' 14.10 (94) to 9.8 (62) loss to Northern Knights at Ballarat's Mars Stadium on Sunday.

Rantall, 17, had 13 kicks and 24 handballs.

The former Australian junior basketballer has averaged 25 possessions across his six games this season after choosing to focus on football.

Correction seems as though he is focusing on handball!

We have enough of that already who overuse it and complicate a simple game plan!

[DV8 2,271]

2 hours ago, 58er said:

Correction seems as though he is focusing on handball!

We have enough of that already who overuse it and complicate a simple game plan!

Which player,  '58er'.