Changes: Rd 05 v St. Kilda

[Diamond_Jim 11,740]

Hawthorn about to play the Saints. Will be very interested to watch the tactics of the Saints.

[chook fowler 18,213]

8 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Hawthorn about to play the Saints. Will be very interested to watch the tactics of the Saints.

Hope the Saints are battered and bruised after today.

[Brayshaw Self 847]

Saints are too quick and mobile up forward for Petty to be considered.

[one_demon 826]

Have to beat St Kilda otherwise it's all over.

[Ugottobekidding 915]

Swapping garlett for spargo is a no brainer. I would have petty above omac. Lockhart in.

[Demon Dude 425]

out- OMac, Stretch, 

in- Lewis, Garlett, 

Lewis coming back in can release Fritsch and Salem onto the wing, which pushes Stretch back out of the team. playing Preuss fwd and having Gawn drop back to help out might allow us to play a smaller more mobile defence without a tall replacement for OMac. Garlett in for goal crumbing around Preuss's feet. if Preuss is injured bring in Keilty.

[DV8 2,271]

20 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

You might have your wish PF with Jeffy having a decent game today apparantly and kicking 3.

Billy was more a direct replacement for ANB but they might be able to swing Jeffy in anyway and push Spargo up the field to cover Stretch's role (if ommitted).

Hannan would have been the obvious replacement for ANB if fit.

Jeffy might come in for Corey.

I would maintain Spargo in the side.  He contributed to us getting into the game and winning it.   His linkup work is very important to us... we have been ordinary in transition.

20 hours ago, chook fowler said:

Interesting selections this week - Lockhart will also be available. Goodwin doesn’t like changing winning sides so I can’t see much happening. Oscars concussion may provide an opportunity for Petty to come in. I reckon Jetta will need more than a week to get over his knee. Lewis is underdone and probably should have a run at Casey - he will hate that. Like others I can’t se May being ready for a few weeks.

I think we will see many changes between the Saints and Tigers matches, Re the 4 day turnaround.

Who do you think of the tall backs matches up againts the Saints  'cf'  ?   Petty or OMc ?

 

Also which of Tigers and Saints, has the most dangerous small forwards, for us to counter ?

[Thehardtackler 785]

1 hour ago, Demon Dude said:

out- OMac, Stretch, 

in- Lewis, Garlett, 

Lewis coming back in can release Fritsch and Salem onto the wing, which pushes Stretch back out of the team. playing Preuss fwd and having Gawn drop back to help out might allow us to play a smaller more mobile defence without a tall replacement for OMac. Garlett in for goal crumbing around Preuss's feet. if Preuss is injured bring in Keilty.

Have to concur with this assessment. These changes are absolute no brainers!

[Wiseblood 24,636]

4 minutes ago, Thehardtackler said:

Have to concur with this assessment. These changes are absolute no brainers!

I'd be dropping Spargo before Stretch.  Plus Spargo plays forward while Stretch spent most of his time on a wing.  Garlett won't play on a wing.

[Thehardtackler 785]

Spargo or Stretch it is much of a muchness, but we need Lewis and Garlett in.

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,579]

Any further word on how Preuss's shoulder has pulled up?

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,579]

A semi random thought regarding May and Lever - it kind of depends on how our key backs settle and build form over the next few weeks and it might be a bit old school, but personally I'd be in favor of bringing back both lever and May through the twos.  Let their bodies build back into a fully match fit state for the rigors of compeditive senior footy and let them build some confidence with the ball as well.

Steven May hasn't looked in great nick reading and finding the ball for his entire injury interupted preseason and Lever took at least half a dozen games to find form with us at the start of last season and he has missed practically an entire season of compeditive footy since then.

I want these guys back in the side as much as anyone, but I want them in and firing, not struggling to get back into the game.

[DeeSpencer 23,113]

48 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

A semi random thought regarding May and Lever - it kind of depends on how our key backs settle and build form over the next few weeks and it might be a bit old school, but personally I'd be in favor of bringing back both lever and May through the twos.  Let their bodies build back into a fully match fit state for the rigors of compeditive senior footy and let them build some confidence with the ball as well.

Steven May hasn't looked in great nick reading and finding the ball for his entire injury interupted preseason and Lever took at least half a dozen games to find form with us at the start of last season and he has missed practically an entire season of compeditive footy since then.

I want these guys back in the side as much as anyone, but I want them in and firing, not struggling to get back into the game.

Lever will come back through the 2's probably for at least 2 games.

May had some very good moments at training and wasn't too bad against Brisbane, I think even not at 100% he should be thrown in but given a bit of time to build fitness and form in terms of performance. In the Geelong game they tried to use him as the 3rd tall intercept player and something like that would be ideal - sit him on a resting ruckman and let him run off.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,394]

On 4/13/2019 at 9:12 AM, DeezNuts said:

I’d drop Hibberd, he needs a rest. OMAC can be removed. 

There are 168 hours in a week* of which game time is about 2.5. You'd think that the remaining 165.5 hours would be sufficient time for any player to rest. But, clubs "rest" players all the time, so clearly the effects of a single game are significant. However, I can't see how any player should need a "rest" after only four games. If he's injured, don't play him; if he's just out of form, decide whether he needs more game time to recover touch or whether he needs to drop back to Casey for a while. For what it's worth, in my view he's playing OK. Not AA form that he's capable of, but not worthy of demoting, either.  

 

*Note: 168 hours is a normal week. Six day breaks, etc, stuff up the maths. 

[Wiseblood 24,636]

3 hours ago, Thehardtackler said:

Spargo or Stretch it is much of a muchness, but we need Lewis and Garlett in.

I agree we need both Lewis and Garlett in, but Spargo and Stretch play different roles within the side, and therefore it makes sense to drop Spargo instead of Stretch.

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,277]

Out: Spargo, J. Wagner

In: Garlett, Lewis

[Winners at last 4,716]

The odds on Saints winning v Demons was $3.32 on Sportsbet. Too juicy to go past!!

Those odds are now $2.92. I suspect they'll shorten further.

Saints' pace and willingness to run/spread will be the biggest problem.

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,277]

3 minutes ago, bingers said:

The odds on Saints winning v Demons was $3.32 on Sportsbet. Too juicy to go past!!

Those odds are now $2.92. I suspect they'll shorten further.

Saints' pace and willingness to run/spread will be the biggest problem.

Let your $3.32 come in to $2.30 then lay it off... While they're a real danger, I reckon we can grind it out 

[Winners at last 4,716]

2 hours ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Let your $3.32 come in to $2.30 then lay it off... While they're a real danger, I reckon we can grind it out 

I put $30 @ $3.32.  

I can cash out now ... at $30.18 !!!

Big decision: shall I take my 18 cent profit ????

[Demon Dynasty 15,383]

8 hours ago, DV8 said:

Jeffy might come in for Corey.

I would maintain Spargo in the side.  He contributed to us getting into the game and winning it.   His linkup work is very important to us... we have been ordinary in transition.

I think we will see many changes between the Saints and Tigers matches, Re the 4 day turnaround.

Who do you think of the tall backs matches up againts the Saints  'cf'  ?   Petty or OMc ?

 

Also which of Tigers and Saints, has the most dangerous small forwards, for us to counter ?

Yes i was also advocating he stays for the match against the Aints DV.  But then again i don't think the FD will bring in a specialist small forward for a backman on Corey.  So who does Jeffy replace assuming he gets a call up?

[Demon Dynasty 15,383]

13 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Those changes look beautiful on paper.

I wouldn't play Lewis with the 4 day break into the Tigers game,  hes no spring chicken anymore and coming off a hammy..

Surely with today's amount of sports science and technology he can be  very carefuly managed over the 4 days and probably just gets put through a super light skills/recovery program in their one and only training session?

[Demon Dynasty 15,383]

11 hours ago, picket fence said:

Nasher, I reckon when Jeffy plays a game like yesterday , his confidence soars! I wouldn't risk an extended break given Casey has a Bye next week. I think we pull the trigger and give him a chance, sooner rather than later. Next week ideal and if it works I reckon we go a long way towards a win. In a team lacking seriously good finishers with goal sense and pace, against the AINTS he must play! How many games has Stretch, Spargo, et al taken and become match winners. ZERO. Jeffy can and has done this for us and so he plays.

This ☝? Jeffy is a class above and brings a wealth of experience.  Provided he fires on the day he can finish and might be the difference on the scoreboard in a tight match.  Personally i just don't see what Stretch brings and have rarely seen him perform in the last few seasons outside of maybe a decent game against the Dockers last year?

Spargo stays and is utilised to replace Jeffy when rested plus a minor role helping out off one wing in a secondary further relief role for a wingman resting.  Jeffy replaces Stretch.

Spargo doesn't have match fitness or a tank to justify a permanent place just yet (if he underperforms) but IMHO he is more damaging when he's on (even if it's short lived atm) and is slowly building/showing some promise vs what Stretch brings (for an entire match).

Edited April 14, 2019 by Rusty Nails

[Willmoy1947 3,769]

Pressure right on Saints this week. Got to produce against a bottom three side. Should be able to get the required amount of exposure, with half their retired team along with their Coach/Captain in prime time TV

[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, Rusty Nails said:

Yes i was also advocating he stays for the match against the Aints DV.  But then again i don't think the FD will bring in a specialist small forward for a backman on Corey.  So who does Jeffy replace assuming he gets a call up?

Corey Wagner.  But Wagner will be a harder worker upfield (assist mids) than Jeffy.... so I'm wondering which matchups...   Which opposition has the hardest working midfield ? Aints or Tiges ?

And which teams defence will we find more space inside,   Because that's the team we should play Jeffy against

Edited April 14, 2019 by DV8

[DV8 2,271]

14 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Those changes look beautiful on paper.

I wouldn't play Lewis with the 4 day break into the Tigers game,  hes no spring chicken anymore and coming off a hammy..

Lewis would be touch and go this week, even if we were stretched and needed him... but I'd feel more confident of him coming in against the Tiges, when some won't come up following the Saints game.

It's a MUST for us to go in fully fit against this weeks team...  and the Saints are holding a top 8 spot tonight.  We want the points turnaround on them.

So I think Lewis won't play the Saints...  but will be one to come in for the Tiges game.