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I get your point, but as clubs say, we have to back ourselves to make him happy. We have to create an environment that he is happy. Carlton have shown themselves to be ruthless, both in what they are

Is this the same Jack Martin that begged and pleaded to be a Bomber this time last year? Unless there’s a clear threat that he’d sit out the season, or would be a toxic member of the playing grou

I'll tell you why it's a salary issue, he's reportedly looking for $650-700k per season. What has he done to earn that,  nothing but potential and he's not a ball winning mid or key position play

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1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Because he's not coming, it's quite simple really. 

People need to actually start accepting that he's never coming to us. He's hellbent on Carlton and that's it.

I don't know why his preference is relevant 

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1 hour ago, adonski said:

I don't know why his preference is relevant 

Well it is relevant its the new age of player power. When they saw they want to get to a certain club then they will get there. Rarely do they EVER have a change in mind. In fact last I can think of is Mitch Clark putting out a statement requesting a trade to Freo only to back flip and sign at the Dees for bigger 💰💰

He'll be at 2 clubs next year and it will be either Carlton or the Suns.

It's time to really knock this on the head and move on.

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18 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Well it is relevant its the new age of player power. When they saw they want to get to a certain club then they will get there. Rarely do they EVER have a change in mind. In fact last I can think of is Mitch Clark putting out a statement requesting a trade to Freo only to back flip and sign at the Dees for bigger 💰💰

He'll be at 2 clubs next year and it will be either Carlton or the Suns.

It's time to really knock this on the head and move on.

He doesn’t have to have a change of mind though, we can just take him prior to Carlton can’t we. Assuming it wouldn’t completely stuff up the salary cap for one year, I’d take him and sit him out if he didn’t want to play then trade him 

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17 hours ago, adonski said:

He doesn’t have to have a change of mind though, we can just take him prior to Carlton can’t we. Assuming it wouldn’t completely stuff up the salary cap for one year, I’d take him and sit him out if he didn’t want to play then trade him 

Why on earth would you do that? Weird.

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5 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

Stay away from this kid he is overrated and far to expensive, Bennell will be the steal of the century.

Could not agree more. No way we want Martin with his price tag and really just a player for that price. Whereas Bennell at peanuts and get him fit will be a huge bonus for us.

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9 hours ago, Docs Demons said:

Could not agree more. No way we want Martin with his price tag and really just a player for that price. Whereas Bennell at peanuts and get him fit will be a huge bonus for us.

Why worry about the price tag?

We have a min cap that has to be paid. If there's space, I'm all for it. The cap can be reshuffled in 12 mths tome to accommodate new contracts with others. I don't know why posters are concerned with contract amounts when we have no real idea of our position.

Having said that, I still think he's off to the Blues.

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1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

Why worry about the price tag?

We have a min cap that has to be paid. If there's space, I'm all for it. The cap can be reshuffled in 12 mths tome to accommodate new contracts with others. I don't know why posters are concerned with contract amounts when we have no real idea of our position.

Having said that, I still think he's off to the Blues.

The problem is not spending the cap, it is telling our players we can only pay them so much, because of the cap and then offering a large amount to a player from another club.

That breeds mistrust and disharmony.

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1 hour ago, Redleg said:

The problem is not spending the cap, it is telling our players we can only pay them so much, because of the cap and then offering a large amount to a player from another club.

That breeds mistrust and disharmony.

Or then there's the Richmond model where players openly say it doesnt concern them what others are paid as long as there is success. I heard Jack Revoldt say that very comment about Lynch coming to the tigers. 

I highly doubt the club would openly use the SC as an excuse for not signing an existing player. That's just flat out poor contract dealing (I'm looking at you Adelaide!).

If Martin was to turn around and agree to come to us, which is very unlikely, the FD should absolutely do what they can to fit him in, short of a breach of SC. All clubs would have a Plan B for such events. 

Players sook about what others are paid in clubs with poor culture and poor communication. If that is us, then we get what we deserve. I don't think it is though, or I bloody well hope not.

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1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

Or then there's the Richmond model where players openly say it doesnt concern them what others are paid as long as there is success. I heard Jack Revoldt say that very comment about Lynch coming to the tigers. 

I highly doubt the club would openly use the SC as an excuse for not signing an existing player. That's just flat out poor contract dealing (I'm looking at you Adelaide!).

If Martin was to turn around and agree to come to us, which is very unlikely, the FD should absolutely do what they can to fit him in, short of a breach of SC. All clubs would have a Plan B for such events. 

Players sook about what others are paid in clubs with poor culture and poor communication. If that is us, then we get what we deserve. I don't think it is though, or I bloody well hope not.

And Hawthorn and Geelong before them.

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10 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Or then there's the Richmond model where players openly say it doesnt concern them what others are paid as long as there is success. I heard Jack Revoldt say that very comment about Lynch coming to the tigers. 

I highly doubt the club would openly use the SC as an excuse for not signing an existing player. That's just flat out poor contract dealing (I'm looking at you Adelaide!).

If Martin was to turn around and agree to come to us, which is very unlikely, the FD should absolutely do what they can to fit him in, short of a breach of SC. All clubs would have a Plan B for such events. 

Players sook about what others are paid in clubs with poor culture and poor communication. If that is us, then we get what we deserve. I don't think it is though, or I bloody well hope not.

I fear this bird ( Martin ) has already flown.

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9 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Why worry about the price tag?

We have a min cap that has to be paid. If there's space, I'm all for it. The cap can be reshuffled in 12 mths tome to accommodate new contracts with others. I don't know why posters are concerned with contract amounts when we have no real idea of our position.

Having said that, I still think he's off to the Blues.

Why worry about the price tag, U don't pay the price of a Ferrari to get a Holden.

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