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The Statistic that really highlights our problem is shown as follows:

We have lacked talent in our forward line this year:

Comparing 14 leading scorers from 2018 to 2019 and looking at averages per games played.

Team Goals negative 5 per game.

8 players down on last year, 2 up on last year (Hunt and Petracca)

Effect of Hogan, Melksham missing is nearly 3.6 goals per game with no effective replacements.

Effect of McDonald, Hannan, Neal Bullen and Garlett drop off is 2.7 goals per game.

Priority is forward effectiveness for 2020.

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12 hours ago, Sweetman said:

The Statistic that really highlights our problem is shown as follows:

We have lacked talent in our forward line this year:

Comparing 14 leading scorers from 2018 to 2019 and looking at averages per games played.

Team Goals negative 5 per game.

8 players down on last year, 2 up on last year (Hunt and Petracca)

Effect of Hogan, Melksham missing is nearly 3.6 goals per game with no effective replacements.

Effect of McDonald, Hannan, Neal Bullen and Garlett drop off is 2.7 goals per game.

Priority is forward effectiveness for 2020.

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Which would probably have seen us win at least two more matches (minimum), one at a critical point in the season in Rnd 11 against the Crows and the weekend's match.

Nice work and definitely a major part of why we have fallen off the 2018 cliff.

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Player / Team Stats Form Guide

To Rnd 18, 2019 vs Season 2018

*Erratum update - Lever now included!*

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The biggest improvement ....Fritschkreig...closing the gap on his 2018 form differential by nearly 5% and jumping one place into 9th.

Clarry, Harmes, Gawn (who i would roughly have in 3rd place, or thereabouts, if hit outs to advantage were included) and Salem all improved.  Quite a feat given they were already heading the table.

The biggest drop was the Big P.....dropping a massive 13.7% and 9 places!

We improved our season's team score marginally by approx 0.8% vs 2018.  Not withstanding the fact we still managed to lose both matches, this round was our 2nd best performance statistically (64.925), only beaten by our Rnd 11 performance vs the Crows (67.275).

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8 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

These are the key stats. I don't believe for a second that our forward like alone is the issue. 

Would also like a look at points scored for and against from rebound defensive 50, 2018 vs 2019.

That image quite literally shows how we went from a team firmly in flag contention, to 17th.

It was reasonable for "experts" to have us as a flag contender based on those stats because we were in the top across so many. 

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12 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Wow, a complete 180 degree turn. I can’t get into the article. Does it go into any detail about the demise?

I accept injuries play a part to an extent where we haven’t had the right balance all season and having to use players that perhaps aren’t up to it or not ready, but those stats also tell me the opposition has done its homework on our strong points and we have struggled to counter for various reasons.

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On 7/25/2019 at 4:12 AM, praha said:

These are the key stats. I don't believe for a second that our forward like alone is the issue. 

Would also like a look at points scored for and against from rebound defensive 50, 2018 vs 2019.

That image quite literally shows how we went from a team firmly in flag contention, to 17th.

It was reasonable for "experts" to have us as a flag contender based on those stats because we were in the top across so many. 

Apart from a one dimensional flawed game style (chaos bash crash - overwhelm the opponent with numbers at the ball)  i would suggest you may wish to start believing that it is certainly one of THE main reasons Praha.  It is complete shizen and all those stats you listed are forward line related. 

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Player / Team Stats - Weighted Composite Score

Rnd 19, 2019  - Saints vs Demons (Marvel)

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Statistically our 2nd worst team performance for the year, only bettered in Rnd 6 vs the Tiges where we put the cue in the rack early and pretty much played the game in our defensive half, giving up the forward half to the Tiges to flip the ball around and set up their multiple forays inside 50.  Goody prevented a blow out by bottling up the back half so i guess we achieved something.  I'm guessing he was looking to limit the damage then reset during the 10 day break.

Here are the stats from Rnd 6 vs the Tiges......

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And from our previous encounter against the the Saints in Round 5.  A much better standard / output statistically but the same result.  No doubt the Saints were traveling better at this point also...

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Got to look at Viney Brayshaw and Jones WTF is going on. Maybe the coach has lost them!

A cliff like fall in stats. Got to be a rational explaination

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Some stats which catch my eye:

  • 2nd for inside 50s 
  • 4th for inside 50 differential (i.e. only three clubs get more ball inside their forward 50 compared to their opponent than we do)
  • 4th for clearance differential
  • 14th for rebound 50s
  • 17th in opposition rebound 50s 
  • 17th in rebound 50s differential

Validates what we're seeing on the ground. Too many entries inside 50 are wasted - they're not marked (TMac, Weideman struggling, Melksham and J Smith not playing, Fritsch not playing forward) and when they hit the ground we can't lock it in (Spargo, Garlett and ANB all struggling, Lockhart playing in fits and starts).

I am of the view that the stats relating to rebound 50s derive significantly from the stats relating to inside 50s - I would like to see a stat showing how often our opponents' scoring chains start from within our forward 50 or forward half. 

Interestingly though, this is not how we lost vs St Kilda. Though I've still not seen the game, we had fewer inside 50s than the Saints and I understand we were turning it over a lot in our back half, rather than our forward half. Not sure if that signifies a change in how we tried to play (which we obviously failed at) or not.

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On 7/29/2019 at 11:27 AM, Kent said:

Got to look at Viney Brayshaw and Jones WTF is going on. Maybe the coach has lost them!

A cliff like fall in stats. Got to be a rational explaination

Wondering if there's some drop in enthusiasm from the old captain other than father time given the pay negotiations.

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I have been thinking about our injury list and also about the importance of continuity - playing games together. One of the things that makes successful teams successful is playing together, knowing what your teammates are going to do, knowing their running patterns etc. So I wanted to look at what our "playing 22" was since Goodwin took over.

This is the team which have played the most games 2017-19 for the Dees. For reference the starting 18 have played more than 42 games (Fritch 42), the bench more than 36 and the emergencies more than 24. The total number of games they could have played is 66 - well done Clarry for playing all and Trac for only missing 1. 

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Of note here is that this year, 13 of these 'best' 18 players have played more than 15 games. While Jetta and Melksham have missed due to injury, O Mac and Lewis have missed due to form. Of the 26, Vince, Tyson and Hogan have left, Hannan, Garlett, Spargo, Weideman have all missed through a mixture of injury and form and J Wagner has played 12 games.

I was surprised at through the years that J Wagner seemed to be the 23-26 player called on to play. We talk about the lack of depth the Dees have, and it is interesting because we don't really have a reliable 23-26 players. Really the 2 names that came up on the interchange / emergency list year by year without a valid reason (e.g. Hogan due to leaving/injury) was Josh Wagner and Billy Stretch. If you isolate this year alone, it is Corey Wagner and Oskar Baker who are the 23-26 players (Garlett and Jetta were the other 2). 

It was interesting looking back year on year 2014-2019 that the 'core' didn't really change. This is the team that has played the most games from 2014-19. 

B    Jetta    O McDonald    Watts    
HB    Salem    Frost    Vince    
C    Tyson    Viney    Brayshaw    
R    Gawn    Oliver    Jones    
HF    Petracca    Hogan    Harmes    
F    Garlett    McDonald    Neal-Bullen    
Int    Hunt    Hibberd    Pedersen    Lewis
Em.  Melksham    Kent    Stretch    Howe

You see similar names across the lines with only 4 names changing. When you just isolate Goodwin coaching, you have Hannan (19th most games), Weideman (26), J Wagner (27) and Spargo (28) who have now become 'regulars' with Watts, Pedersen, Kent, and Howe playing more games for the Dees than this quartet if you go back to 2014. 

What does this all tell me? It tells me that another 12 months down the track we have a core of about 16 players that will have played more than 80 games together and that is nothing to sneer at. Week in week out we have been one of the competitions least experienced sides. As we grow over the next 12 months, these games together should help with some of the connection issues.

Names not in that group include May and Lever who we know are already having a great influence on the team, as well as guys like Weideman, Hore, Petty, KK, Spargo who have all shown signs. 

The other thing that we need though is a reduction in injuries to our players. Isolating 'most played' 18 over the past 3 years and games missed, there are too many in the double digits which has hurt us (Viney, Brayshaw, Melksham, Jetta, Hibberd, Gawn) both on the field, and also with the game plan. Everytime that someone goes down, a member of this team is often played out of position to try and cover them. 

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So, is this year down to not getting the cattle on the park or the cattle not being fit? This is the most played 26 this year as well as games played. 

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This then made me think, while we have lost a lot of games to injury, how many have we lost to the main players playing? Is it more than last year? Well we had 83 games of injuries lost to our 'most playing 22' last year and 84 to our 'most playing 22' this year. 

What I did notice, was that the experience of the 22 running out on the park each week was below that of 2018. Last year the players in our most often played 22 included: 

2018: Vince, Spargo, Tyson, Garlett, Hogan, Hannan, Jetta compared to our most often this year 2019: Petty, Viney, Lockhart, Hunt, Wagner, Hore, Weideman. 

Commentators talk about the importance of the bottom 6 of your side, and this year, our bottom 6 has been very young, very inexperienced, and often not very good. 

What I am hoping for in 2020 is that players like May, Lever, Jetta are among the most games played in our side (who knows, maybe even KK and Weid), and guys like Melksham and McDonald are playing more games. I actually think our best 22 is very good. We saw it in 2018 and we've seen glimpses of it in 2019. Now is the time to make sure everyone is right for 2020, bring in 1-2 players who can be automatic best 22 (Anderson, Langdon), get our backline out on the park (May, Lever, Jetta),  get our guns firing again (looking at you Brayshaw) and hopefully Weid takes another step forward. 

Because if you are replacing our 'most played 22' with May, Lever, Jetta, Anderson, Langdon for guys like (no offence intended) Lockhart, J Wagner, Petty, O Mac, Lewis - things start to look a little more rosie.

If you want the excel - PM me. 

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Interesting analysis, Mr Licious.

what is also of interest is when they have missed.  The key backs all out at the same time, the forward line now vacant...  if you miss one from the starting best 6 on a line, you should have line coverage.  When you have May, Lever, Jetta Out at once, or TMac, Weids and Garlett Out at the same time, it stretches beyond best 26.  All of a sudden Fritsch is in the backline, Omac is left to lose all confidence.

the consistency principle you suggest is one I agree with.  We need it in each line, as well as across the squad.

so if we take this forward, and we have a relatively uninterrupted preseason, then we should be getting to that point (numbers of games) where it should work for us.  Improving 23-28 on the list looks critical to our success.

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On 7/18/2019 at 7:58 AM, Rusty Nails said:

After watching Billy pretty carefully in some of his games DP i've found he isn't willing to pull the trigger much, tends to take the easy lateral or backward short options on disposal and pretty ordinary in front of the sticks when he gets the opp also.  In addition he is yet another poor exponent of overhead/contested marking IMO and we already have enough of those.  Rarely if ever marks inside 50 also although maybe he doesn't go inside all that often.  I would be surprised if that is the case though.

A non-impact but clean (low risk) player who refuses to take the game on and utilise the bit of speed he has.  Works hard to get into space for the easy receive with the leg work but that's about where it ends for mine.

If we are to improve as a club and get anywhere near silverware in our life times i really don't think there's a place for the likes of a B.S. other than as a depth option who mostly playes (quite well) for Casey with the occasional call up when our stocks are very low.

Its hard to pull the trigger when Billy hasn't had any consecutive games (until this year) in the seniors since round 1 to 5 I think 2017. (I stand to be corrected though) How can you build confidence if that's the case. It's clear that the current coaching staff have zero confidence in him & IMO underrate what he brings....never shirks an issue, tackles hard, runs harder than most & never looks for an easy kick (something our current captains can learn from)

Plenty of non-impact players at the Dee's at the moment RN & I'd be happy to make a list for you?  At least with Stretch, & others like JKH & C Wagner etc, the effort is there & if you observe his numbers both at senior level & at Casey, I think you will find they are better than most. Maybe you'd prefer a senior player who just won't tackle, has an average or 7 turnovers a game & runs around the back of players to get an easy kick?

My nephew, who goes to the club training sessions regularly says Stretch is universally loved by all players because of his accountability, work rate & team first habits. The fact that the coaches want 22 bulls playing every week, is unfortunate for Stretch & he'd be better off finding a more welcoming environment & a club that might give him a go.

If the club is going to get 'anywhere near silverware', as you say, they've got far bigger pending issues than whether to p[lay BS or not. Maybe sorting our whether or not the current 22 actually have any care for one another, whether the coaches have an alternative game plan & for the likes of Viney, Jones, Lewis, & co to show any form of leadership.

I must say it was nice for JKH to get a run & perform well last night v Richmond. His speed, run & carry was exciting & something that has been clearly lacking the last 6-8 weeks. 20 disposals @ 80% efficiency is evidence that he should be out there.....

 

 

 

 

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35 minutes ago, Laughing Goat said:

Its hard to pull the trigger when Billy hasn't had any consecutive games (until this year) in the seniors since round 1 to 5 I think 2017. (I stand to be corrected though) How can you build confidence if that's the case. It's clear that the current coaching staff have zero confidence in him & IMO underrate what he brings....never shirks an issue, tackles hard, runs harder than most & never looks for an easy kick (something our current captains can learn from)

Plenty of non-impact players at the Dee's at the moment RN & I'd be happy to make a list for you?  At least with Stretch, & others like JKH & C Wagner etc, the effort is there & if you observe his numbers both at senior level & at Casey, I think you will find they are better than most. Maybe you'd prefer a senior player who just won't tackle, has an average or 7 turnovers a game & runs around the back of players to get an easy kick?

My nephew, who goes to the club training sessions regularly says Stretch is universally loved by all players because of his accountability, work rate & team first habits. The fact that the coaches want 22 bulls playing every week, is unfortunate for Stretch & he'd be better off finding a more welcoming environment & a club that might give him a go.

If the club is going to get 'anywhere near silverware', as you say, they've got far bigger pending issues than whether to p[lay BS or not. Maybe sorting our whether or not the current 22 actually have any care for one another, whether the coaches have an alternative game plan & for the likes of Viney, Jones, Lewis, & co to show any form of leadership.

I must say it was nice for JKH to get a run & perform well last night v Richmond. His speed, run & carry was exciting & something that has been clearly lacking the last 6-8 weeks. 20 disposals @ 80% efficiency is evidence that he should be out there.....

 

 

 

 

Agree re JKH getting a go LG.  Stretch is better than a few others running around out there as you say.  But unfortunately some won't make the grade, assuming we want to make it to the main event.  If not then just keep on keeping on with the NQRs and we'll never get the elusive silverware and fab players like Maxy, Clarry and Harmes's careers will be [censored] down the toilet.

Our ladder position pretty much tells the tale.  List needs a major overhaul if we are to take advantage of the likes of Maxy, Clarry, Salem and start kicking some decent "winning" scores.

If May, Lever, Hore, Jetta and Frost fire up without injuries next year we'll do ok down back.   No issues there.  Need some quality run, speed and finish on the outside.  An accurate KF who can clunk regular marks and a couple of quality small forwards which we are desperately missing ATM.

I wont go in to game style and coaching issues which i've covered infinitum already.  Nothing we say here will change the leopard in the coaching box anyway.  They have their own style and methods.  We'll just have to suck it up for the next year and see what happens.

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Player / Team Stats - Weighted Composite Score

Rnd 20, 2019  - Demons vs Tigers (MCG)

 

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# Hit outs to advantage not accounted for

 

 

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4 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Player / Team Stats - Weighted Composite Score

Rnd 20, 2019  - Demons vs Tigers (MCG)

 

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So Clarrie is 100 times better than Corey?  I know it doesnt work that way, but fair enough for mine...

Thanks Rusty, always interesting to review.  On the plus side, Clarrie and Gawn.  When you think that bustling Braydon was brought in to do more than just tap the ball, his score shows he was 5% of big Max in value, and perhaps the biggest fail. 

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9 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Player / Team Stats Form Guide

(Composite Weighted Averages)

To Rnd 20, 2019 vs Season 2018

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Again Look at Viney Jones and Brayshaw 

What is going on with these guys? Have the given up? Are there issues between players? Something is not right> 

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10 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

So Clarrie is 100 times better than Corey?  I know it doesnt work that way, but fair enough for mine...

Thanks Rusty, always interesting to review.  On the plus side, Clarrie and Gawn.  When you think that bustling Braydon was brought in to do more than just tap the ball, his score shows he was 5% of big Max in value, and perhaps the biggest fail. 

Unfortunately Corey had only 6 effective disposals and that was offset by 8 turnovers Buck.  So a negative net result on that side. He did lay 5 tackles and kicked a goal which is a good effort.

However zero clearances and one percenters might inidicate he didn't impact much with pressure elsewhere or with his ability to get to many coal face ground ball contests.  Alternatively this may have been the result of the task/role he was asked to play on the night.  Nuances which are often missed within statistics.

Keep in mind like all such models there is a fair degree of subjectivity.  I destest turnover kings and punish them accordingly with a negative factor included as part of the player's overall net weighted score.  When you are looking at Clarry's score it is constructed using the exact same weighting method as Corey's which means all his crazy handball turnovers (and any others) are captured.  So yes your eyes are not deceiving you.  Clarry is that good he more than makes up for the turnover factor with his general 'other' work and output.

I'm afraid Pruess has been found out as not ready at this level yet in the last two matches he has played.  I think his ruck work in the middle is actually not bad.  Around the ground he is bog ordinary.  Clunking his marking attempts more often would help his confidence a little as well. Some major work required in the off season for the big fella if he is to make it at this level me thinks.

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4 hours ago, Kent said:

Again Look at Viney Jones and Brayshaw 

What is going on with these guys? Have the given up? Are there issues between players? Something is not right> 

Commitment has ebbed away coinciding with issues around the Jones negotiations maybe Kent.  Once that starts happening a few others begin to ask why also.  If 'we' know there's supposedly a bit of an issue then you can bet the leadership group knew ages ago.

The rest of the players down the line gradually learning or hearing the rumours not long afterwards.

It's the sort of thing that can destroy a club.  Jnr Mac treatment a classic example.  Jones was of course playing when all that went down as well.

Let's hope history isn't repeating itself in a similar fashion down at demon HQ.

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    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The boys dissected the clinical thrashing of Hawks praising the immense performance of Christian Petracca whilst lamenting the injury toll to our defensive unit ... LISTEN

    Demonland | March 26

  • Training  

    Monday, 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • Casey Report      

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • PreGame      

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head out on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out? ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 28

  • Match Report      

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Post Game      

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Votes      

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Game Day      

    GAMEDAY: Round 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Training  

    Friday, 22nd March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin and I attended the Captain's Run at Gosch's Paddock on this lovely sunny morning to bring you the following observations from the training session ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 22

  • Training  

    Tuesday, 19th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin & Walking Civil War attended Tuesday morning's training session at Gosch's Paddock to bring you the following observations ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 19

  • Training  

    Saturday, 16th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin and Dee Zephyr wandered down to Gosch's Paddock on Saturday morning to bring you their observations from the Captain's Run in the lead up to Sunday's Round One match against the Bulldogs ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 16

  • Farewell  

    Angus Brayshaw Retires

    After 167 games including the drought breaking Premiership Angus Brayshaw has made the heart breaking decision to medically retire from football as a result of a series of serious head knocks over his nearly decade of footy. We wish Gus all the best and he'll always be a hero at Demonland ... READ MORE

    Demonland | February 22

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Koltyn Tholstrup Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club’s newest recruit Koltyn Tholstrup to have a chat about his journey from the farm to the Demons, his first few weeks of preseason training, which Dees have impressed him on the track and his aspirations of playing Round 1 ... LISTEN

    Demonland | December 14

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Jason Taylor Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club's National Recruitment Manager Jason Taylor to have a chat about our Trade and Draft period, our newest recruits, our recent recruits who have yet to debut as well as those father son prospects on the horizon ... LISTEN

    Demonland | November 27

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      PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
    Jake Lever Knee Test
    Clayton Oliver Hand Test
    Oliver Sestan Concussion Test
    Steven May Ribs 1 Week
    Lachie Hunter Calf 1 Week
    Daniel Turner Hip 2-3 Weeks
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    Shane McAdam Hamstring 3-5 Weeks
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        PLAYER VOTES
    1 Christian Petracca 27
    2 Steven May 25
    3 Max Gawn 21
    4 Jack Viney 20
    5 Bayley Fritsch 19
    6 Clayton Oliver 18
    7 Christian Salem 12
    8 Blake Howes 11
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