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1 hour ago, Axis of Bob said:

 

Then deal with it through the correct channels, rather than by baiting and bullying.

It's awful to watch. Posters get in on it together and figure it's OK to do it because there are other people doing it. 

It's not. Stop bullying.

It is actually the first time I have ever had anything like a dig at Saty, my comment was made as I found the “ex-basketballer goggles” comment quite condescending (though I actually agree with the point he was making, to me it is ludicrous to be worrying about a category B rookie in his first few weeks of training)

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Hey guys, One of my first training reports so be nice Feel free to ask me any questions. - Oliver ran around the boundary the whole time. Looked fine, just needs fitness.  - Lever ran aro

I appreciate Saty's reports of training. I don't always agree with what he says but he fronts up and gives us his thoughts and descriptions of training.  He (correctly) called out a poor com

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Leave Saty alone he's a legend. As for wiseblood and dazzle they are the scum of the earth. The only thing they offer demonland is potting other posters especially saty. It's a disgrace and they should have a permanent ban that's why I have them on ignore even though some of their comments seep through like wiseblood's continual insults on saty.

Well I've decided to go on Friday when all the boys are back so you will get at least 1 report (unless it rains). I haven't been to training since they trained at the western oval in 2001 when Woewodin was in the red and blue so I'm excited about going. If anyone has any questions they want asked I'm willing to try and answer them.

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Is there a way posts can be tagged in threads? So that the reports on the actual training can be filtered so you only have to read those if you like. 

 

I really enjoy reading training reports from actual Dees followers, but there is a mountain of rubbish to sift through in nearly every single thread. Would improve the quality of the site immensly I feel

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8 hours ago, Axis of Bob said:

 

Then deal with it through the correct channels, rather than by baiting and bullying.

It's awful to watch. Posters get in on it together and figure it's OK to do it because there are other people doing it. 

It's not. Stop bullying.

Agree with this. Final warning to all. 

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Just on young Bradtke, I understood he was being chased by a number of clubs before he chose Melbourne. I suppose recruiters saw something in him: ours certainly did👍.

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

As for wiseblood and dazzle they are the scum of the earth. The only thing they offer demonland is potting other posters especially saty. It's a disgrace and they should have a permanent ban that's why I have them on ignore even though some of their comments seep through like wiseblood's continual insults on saty.

No, no, no...whilst I think they both go way over the top on the 'Saty' bash apart from that they are both very good posters.

...and yes they do have a dip at others from time to time but just don't take it personally.

Both 'Wise' & 'dazz' provide excellent information & food for thought.

They've just got a bit of a blind spot, that's all.

'Sats' not totally innocent here either, he will play it a bit. I expect he will play the 'take my bat & ball home' card at some stage. That always gets traction.

On the whole, I just find the nitpicking thing boring & skip over the posts that don't have much relevance to me.

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12 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

One time many years ago, @Satyriconhome made mention that Mark Neeld 'finally' had the right players at his disposal for us to play the was he wanted us to. 

Many others disagreed. 

Since then, he has said many, many other silly things. Things that have proved to me that his knowledge and attention to detail in all areas of this game is simply not there and that beneath all of this, he is really just a fierce supporter of all individuals that pull on an MFC guernsey and will defend them to the end.

This is why when you hear him say, "an opinion is neither right nor wrong, it's just an opinion", you're allowed to laugh. Opinions can either hold weight, or little weight, depending on one's track record. And saty's is poor.

For anyone who has doubts over a player at this time of year during the pre-season, just hold your tongue. 

I have no idea about how Bradtke is tracking...

But I sure as hell know that if Satyriconhome's argument (against the poster suggesting that Bradtke looked out of his depth during training) was that the 'coaches didn't kick him out of a drill', then all you can do is laugh. 

I'm quite certain this post will be removed by the powers that be, but I'm pretty sick of Saty nitpicking an entire post due to this posters observations of Bradtke. It's quite ridiculous, it's the same every single year. 

You have your opinions as well, just delivered from a high horse

At the time Neeld did seem to have the mix right, unfortunately I was wrong, but I don't gloat over it like other kings of hindsight, everybody is allowed to disagree with any opinion, that is the bit you seem to have difficulty with

You have no idea of how Bradtke is tracking, correct, but it doesn't necessarily stop you from having a go at my opinion, even though I have attended all the sessions Bradtke has, but that's ok

As for some of the other posters, they love using the troll word, which is exactly what they are, yes I am guilty of baiting them occasionally, but in my opinion they deserve it, like the little clique of schoolkids whose only input into school life was bullying

As I have said before, just put me on ignore, so we can look at the pics and read the training reports, although some seem to have a pathological need not to put on ignore, not sure why

 

 

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30 minutes ago, rjay said:

No, no, no...whilst I think they both go way over the top on the 'Saty' bash apart from that they are both very good posters.

...and yes they do have a dip at others from time to time but just don't take it personally.

Both 'Wise' & 'dazz' provide excellent information & food for thought.

They've just got a bit of a blind spot, that's all.

'Sats' not totally innocent here either, he will play it a bit. I expect he will play the 'take my bat & ball home' card at some stage. That always gets traction.

On the whole, I just find the nitpicking thing boring & skip over the posts that don't have much relevance to me.

I don't take it personally rjay, I find it laughable

Nah just get bored with not being allowed to express an opinion

 

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Aaanywho.. back on topic.

Its a pity I've moved back up bush, some of those training days i attended around finals time were a fantastic experience. 

I'm now keen to keep a close eye on Kade Chandler and Tom Sparrow. 

Just a quick one. James Jordan is from my way ( Yarrawonga ) and played a couple of senior football matches with some of my mates still playing there. Have heard nothing but glowing reports on him. Fantastic kid who works extremely hard and has enormous upside.

Was also cut by Sandringham Dragons, but just kept plugging away and working hard. Reminds me of when Clayton Oliver was coming through the ranks....

The fact that he's already played senior footy for the strong Ovens and Murray league will only hold his development in good stead.

Me personally, i think next year will be a development year for him. Spend most next year learning his craft at Casey around midfield and half back. I think he'll develop similar to James Harmes, where give it 60 to 70 games and he'll become a very handy player.

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44 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

I don't take it personally rjay, I find it laughable

Nah just get bored with not being allowed to express an opinion

 

To add a bit of balance.

I'd like to see threads where objective  analysis and discussion can take take place fairly.

And that this can be done without rebuke and censorship of those who wish to do so.

Without the "bullying" by those who believe mistakenly that they are the propaganda department of the mfc.

There should be no ownership of training reports and all reports should be welcomed.  There is often some marking of territory that goes on.

Football is interesting, part of that is the discussion of all that is good, bad and indifferent.

 

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I have been an avid reader of Demonland.com since its inception (I think). We should always praise contributors to the site, providing their contributions are legible and not bullying. I enjoy reading all contributions and always had a giggle at Yzemagic's wonderful sense of mischief and imagination. He/she did get a few readers quite excited.

We should all be great full for everyone who contributes to the site whether it is on the mark or not. We are humans, that have passions, emotions and varying forms of skill. Some not so good and some that are masterful. personally I dislike reading a training report ( of which this is the topic) and noting "Trump" like responses which are divisive and ruin what should be an optimistic conversation.

I praise the wonderful contributors as we all should by being respectful to how they contribute to this forum. If you are not sure what this means, "Play the ball not the contributor'.

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I am more excited about the Dees than ever. I’ve been a Demonland member for over 10 years but I’m finding that I am less and less inclined to read it. This thread is typically off-putting. I love it when people go to the trouble of reporting on training in the off-season but finding myself scrolling through threads to find factual  info or considered opinions. Please leave your egos at the door

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I'll preface this by saying I hate having to moderate this forum but if you post just to abuse or troll you can have a holiday. People enjoy training reports particularly in the offseason and many know how to filter out the noise. 

May I suggest you use the ignore if you can't help yourself rather than derail a thread and ruin it for the rest of us. 

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I'm most interested in which groups back, mid, fwd, players are training with - e.g. Joel Smith, Dec Keilty, Bailey Fritsch, KK, VDB, Jayden Hunt and to lesser extent but still interesting - the draftees?

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31 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

I'm most interested in which groups back, mid, fwd, players are training with - e.g. Joel Smith, Dec Keilty, Bailey Fritsch, KK, VDB, Jayden Hunt and to lesser extent but still interesting - the draftees?

The divisions might start after Christmas. The senior boys only get back to full time training on Monday. 

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Curious to hear the thoughts of those who’ve attended training, where KK appears to be in the peaking order, I.e best 22, position attributes etc... 

Aside from May, he seems next most likely to slot straight in and improve us. 

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46 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

Curious to hear the thoughts of those who’ve attended training, where KK appears to be in the peaking order, I.e best 22, position attributes etc... 

Aside from May, he seems next most likely to slot straight in and improve us. 

It’s shaping up as the most competitive list we have had since.......I don’t know when. The battle for spots is going to be on for young and old.  Sure there will be injuries and form lapses but still looking that it’s going to be tight for spots on the flanks, wings and midfield. 

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