Goodwin signs on until end of 2022

[Sir Why You Little 34,430]

6 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I read that word with a massive amount of pride.

A far cry from 2013 when we all considered a 5 goal loss to Richmond a highlight of that season.

We’ve come a long way and can only hope we continue our rise.

We are not there yet. It will get really hard from now on

Powerhouse clubs are multiple Premiership Winners, and those that bounce back when defeated. 

But as long as we keep improving....

[Moonshadow 16,160]

On 12/6/2018 at 3:02 PM, Demonland said:

Goody's got a lot of catching up to do. ?

 

Pity he has a face like a half sucked mango.

...as Dame Edna would say

[FireInTheBennelly 4,024]

3 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Pity he has a face like a half sucked mango.

...as Dame Edna would say

Looks more like a busted sausage to me.

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,578]

As I've stated before, getting this done before Rd 1 will help provide stability to our season.

  I guess once all the actual substance is sorted out and Goody has effectively signed on the bottom line, then the next consideration might be when to announce it to generate maximum publicity for our membership/sponsorship drives etc. 

We seem to be somewhat media darlings at present and need to milk that for all that it's worth whilst it lasts.

Edited February 2, 2019 by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

[Engorged Onion 9,255]

Look, I've only been on Demonland for 18 months - but would love some feedback on whether I am being shallow by putting one of my favourite threads in this thread to mock others...

#isthiswhattrollingis??

 

Is Goodwin the Right Guy?

Edited February 3, 2019 by Engorged Onion

[Uncle Fester 2,835]

33 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Look, I've only been on Demonland for 18 months - but would love some feedback on whether I am being shallow by putting one of my favourite threads in this thread to mock others...

#isthiswhattrollingis??

 

Is Goodwin the Right Guy?

He made some mistakes in the early days. Tried to be too smart and re-invent the game. But he learnt and gave us a simpler style. We became a better team because of it. I think I and others were right to doubt (after all we saw Neeld try and do the same thing), but now I have faith. Good list, good coach, good admin. Happy to eat humble pie, but not backing away from anything I said at the time.

[drysdale demon 4,146]

45 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Look, I've only been on Demonland for 18 months - but would love some feedback on whether I am being shallow by putting one of my favourite threads in this thread to mock others...

#isthiswhattrollingis??

 

Is Goodwin the Right Guy?

Reading that always gives a good laugh, it is typical of some off the hysterical types who post on this site.

[Watson11 1,882]

18 minutes ago, Uncle Fester said:

He made some mistakes in the early days. Tried to be too smart and re-invent the game. But he learnt and gave us a simpler style. We became a better team because of it. I think I and others were right to doubt (after all we saw Neeld try and do the same thing), but now I have faith. Good list, good coach, good admin. Happy to eat humble pie, but not backing away from anything I said at the time.

I guess we have you and the other posters to thank for Goody changing?? Although the thing is Goody hasn’t changed what the game plan is.  He has been trying to work out the best combination to implement it, coaching the players on how to deliver it, trading out players that don’t have what is required,  and fine tuning it.  It is still ongoing. You may call it mistakes but others called it good coaching even after bad losses (special commendation to @prodee).  Plenty of others posted some pretty ordinary stuff.

 

[Willmoy1947 3,769]

Ain't eating pies at Pie land......

[58er 5,607]

I would give 4 with option after 3 to resign early but happy with 5 also.

Will lift that Cup one day and might be with Co Capts or ones solely on their own.

Hope it is with both and am confident our group is still developing nicely with this year and the next half a  decade or even longer in that cycle.

Go Dees 

[Uncle Fester 2,835]

4 hours ago, Watson11 said:

I guess we have you and the other posters to thank for Goody changing?? Although the thing is Goody hasn’t changed what the game plan is.  He has been trying to work out the best combination to implement it, coaching the players on how to deliver it, trading out players that don’t have what is required,  and fine tuning it.  It is still ongoing. You may call it mistakes but others called it good coaching even after bad losses (special commendation to @prodee).  Plenty of others posted some pretty ordinary stuff.

 

Yes. That is exactly what I said - that he read Demonland and changed his ways. Good grief!

He was a relatively (and I say that because he had an apprenticeship under Roos) inexperienced coach with a lot of interesting ideas. But as innovative as they were they were often unpicked by more experienced coaches, and there were times we looked lost out there, as an also inexperienced team - think Clarkson killing him after a flying start last year, or how our third quarters seemed to have us all at sea. But he adapted. He realised Rome wasn't built in a day. But that is today. Not 2017. I think he and the players learnt a lot in 2018 too.

He went back to basics and shelved the gotcha! tricks. Him and the side were not ready for that stuff. 2020 and beyond, maybe, with a battle hardened bunch of players and assistants, and Goody knowing when to try these things and when not to.

I give him huge credit for what he is doing, and even more credit for backing off the card tricks and getting back to basics with a team that will win because they are harder, tougher and more determined to win it than the other team. Not from some Hail Mary pass invented at 3q time.

I think we are on the same page, and without looking I don't think I was that bad, but I did have my doubts that he was more show than substance in the early days. Liked his style. Liked how he got on with the boys. Liked his moxie. Just didn't like the idea that he thought he could out fox foxes with a team that didn't even know what the real deal was. Love that he has let that go and has them playing good, tough, hard running football. I'd sign him up for another 3 years in a red and blue heartbeat.

[Sir Why You Little 34,430]

3 years with September triggers built in...

get it done

[Guest]

On 12/6/2018 at 1:02 PM, Demonland said:

Goody's got a lot of catching up to do. ?

 

He looks like Rocky Dennis from the 80's movie 'Mask' with a gym body.

[DV8 2,271]

On 12/6/2018 at 3:09 PM, hemingway said:

Hopefully Goody left all that behind at the Dons. 

Heavens to  murgat roids...  Mr Buckley's.

...  he was just trying to fix his hammy's at the time. but stuffed everything else in the process.  

 

Where was ASADA back then.

[DV8 2,271]

On 2/2/2019 at 6:39 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

We are not there yet. It will get really hard from now on

Powerhouse clubs are multiple Premiership Winners, and those that bounce back when defeated. 

But as long as we keep improving....

It really starts this year for us. 

The rest of the competition will now double they're efforts to study and to beat all areas of our club, to get an advantage over us.

 

12 hours ago, Uncle Fester said:

He made some mistakes in the early days. Tried to be too smart and re-invent the game. But he learnt and gave us a simpler style. We became a better team because of it. I think I and others were right to doubt (after all we saw Neeld try and do the same thing), but now I have faith.

Good list, good coach, good admin.  Happy to eat humble pie,  but not backing away from anything I said at the time.

... did Buckley do the same over the past few years, finally coming good last season...

Sometimes you have to change the list...  to make it suitable for modern footy strategies,  whilst trying to teach/implement the strategies.

...

I'd love to see  e'd  mcG  eat some,  'Humble Pie'...

 

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Edited February 3, 2019 by DV8

[doc roet 1,199]

On 12/6/2018 at 3:02 PM, Demonland said:

Goody's got a lot of catching up to do. ?

 

Good God! Jack Watts must be feeling despondent at the size of those mammories.sniff sniff.

[beelzebub 22,225]

Goodwin has evolved. He needed to.

I think UF has best summed it up.

I think we'll go ok.

Other teams will also.

I look forward to the footy now.

[FarNorthernD 5,839]

16 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Goodwin has evolved. He needed to.

I think UF has best summed it up.

I think we'll go ok.

Other teams will also.

I look forward to the footy now.

Young, new coaches are like young, new players. With hard work and dedication both groups will get better over time. They will become more confident and better at their craft. 

Goodwin has obviously formed a close bond with his players whilst also introducing non  and a playing style that suits.

He has also inherited a bloody good list. He is in the right place at the right time. The sky’s the limit. 

[PaulRB 5,919]

Goodwin has been blessed with a apprenticeship under Roos, a great list and a very solid high performance team in his FD. 

Now let’s hope he’s been touched by the Gods and he’ll pull it all together. 

Another 3 years plus Bartlett’s  firstborn if he wins a flag. ?

Edited February 4, 2019 by PaulRB

[Demon Disciple 10,921]

22 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

3 years with September triggers built in...

get it done

Agree SWYL. Goody's no Neeld, but let's not beat around the bush. With a team like ours at his disposal, we simply must be making finals every year, and more often than not going deep (hopefully as deep as you can go).

If Goody is what most of us hope he is, he'll not only see making September as a non-negotiable, but challenging for the flag.

Look at what Clarkson did with the Dorks this year (admittedly  they went out in straight sets), but he got a team into the top 4 who, imo, aren't a top 4 team. Chris Scott on the other hand was gifted a premiership with the team he inherited yet look how they are traveling now.

I'm not saying Goodwin is as good as Clarkson, but i hope he is way more Clarkson than he is Scott.

[Watson11 1,882]

On 2/3/2019 at 5:07 PM, Uncle Fester said:

He was a relatively (and I say that because he had an apprenticeship under Roos) inexperienced coach with a lot of interesting ideas. But as innovative as they were they were often unpicked by more experienced coaches, and there were times we looked lost out there, as an also inexperienced team - think Clarkson killing him after a flying start last year, or how our third quarters seemed to have us all at sea. But he adapted. He realised Rome wasn't built in a day. But that is today. Not 2017. I think he and the players learnt a lot in 2018 too.

We were the number one third quarter team in 2018.  Number 4 in 2017.  Sign of a good coach is one that can analyse the game and make adjustments at half time.

6 hours ago, FarNorthernD said:

Young, new coaches are like young, new players. With hard work and dedication both groups will get better over time. They will become more confident and better at their craft. 

Goodwin has obviously formed a close bond with his players whilst also introducing non  and a playing style that suits.

He has also inherited a bloody good list. He is in the right place at the right time. The sky’s the limit. 

He inherited an OK list with some great young talent, but has turned over 20 players (50% of the list) since he started.  The improvement of the other 20 has mostly been really significant.  The list now is his list built for the style that he wants, and rid of the dead wood and culture killers.  He deserves to own it. 

He's done the hard work building the culture by making the tough calls,  even more so than Roos.  In my opinion he deserves a 4 or 5 year extension.  Injuries and murphy's law mean there are no guarantees, but if Goody can't deliver a premiership then no one can.  I'm confident he'll do it.

 

 

 

 

[old dee 22,843]

There is no rush. He is not going anywhere he knows the list is a good one. Where would he go? Carlton, Freo, saints I don't think so. The MFC can afford to see how the early part of the 2019 season turns out. We can then negotiate from a position of strength. 

[old dee 22,843]

4 minutes ago, Watson11 said:

We were the number one third quarter team in 2018.  Number 4 in 2017.  Sign of a good coach is one that can analyse the game and make adjustments at half time.

He inherited an OK list with some great young talent, but has turned over 20 players (50% of the list) since he started.  The improvement of the other 20 has mostly been really significant.  The list now is his list built for the style that he wants, and rid of the dead wood and culture killers.  He deserves to own it. 

He's done the hard work building the culture by making the tough calls,  even more so than Roos.  In my opinion he deserves a 4 or 5 year extension.  Injuries and murphy's law mean there are no guarantees, but if Goody can't deliver a premiership then no one can.  I'm confident he'll do it.

 

 

 

 

Five years! Three is enough if he cannot win one with this list by 2022 he never will.

[chook fowler 18,210]

From a distance it seems Goodwin has the ability to get the balance right between being tough and demanding, yet supportive and encouraging. It is a fine line and he walks it very well. I love his no Richard Cranium policy so whilst he has inherited a good list he has shaped it very well. Five years for me.

[rjay 23,888]

1 hour ago, Watson11 said:

In my opinion he deserves a 4 or 5 year extension.

 

49 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Five years for me.

No coach should get 5 years...

3 is the standard and I expect that's what it will be.