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Ok, this guy has been discussed in the past and I know some aren’t his biggest fans but at 27, this guy can snag a few and would be rather handy in our forward line an opportunist goal kicker?

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Can snag a few for sure, but his defensive pressure is the worst in the league, and this goes against everything Goodwin stands for. 

No chance. 

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Would rather persist with Gartlett

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Biggest one-way running, downhill-skiing mouth breather in the game. Daniel Menzel, bloody hell.

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Would have to be the laziest player in the league.  Gets plenty of cheapies over the back because he doesn’t press or follow his man.  Two years in a row geelong have tried to palm him off.

With that said, he always seems to pop-up for a good match against us.  I’d draft him just so he doesn’t play against us again.

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I think it’s suffice to say the many options we have are capable of kicking the scores that Menzel is so I don’t see the ‘gap’ in our list that would need him. 

It probably just goes to show the state of Geelongs stock of small to medium forwards that this bloke is still getting a run and supported by the fact the Cats shop him every year. 

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He's had 4 knee reco's and had groin issues this year. You have to admire his persistence and in earlier days, he went well as a dangerous forward in a good team but those days are over and to fit into the Goodwin style you need to be strong, hard working and have physical presence. 

So, it's a no from me.

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Even in his good games he’ll kick 3 or 4 but his direct opponent will initiate 6 scoring chains...   can’t wait for Lever to play on him....

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It’s over. I can’t see the fit for us. I really admire him for the way he’s been able to bounce back in his career and his injuries definitely prevented him becoming what he could have been.

This is the kind of player Carlton should go after, not for us.

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I'd rather go for Hartung and Oxley.

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I've seen witches hats stick more tackles than Menzel.....

 

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Once apon a time, not so long ago, we would have been all over him.

Now, ..... not so much.

Thank the sweet (insert fave deity) above we dont need NQR"s like him now.

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Everyone's so against him I'd probably take him.

Defensive pressure can't be much worse than Melksham's and more likely to get on the end of a few than Hannan who chases hard but rarely lays a tackle anyway. Was a gun back flanker in his early days, maybe he can have Lewis' spot.

Would be nice to have a gun goal kicker at Casey. A throw back to the days of Fevola!

To be serious I'm not sure he's a list fit but at what stage do you take a talented has been over a never was? 47th spot on the list at 150k plus incentives?

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11 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

With that said, he always seems to pop-up for a good match against us.  I’d draft him just so he doesn’t play against us again.

His last 5 games (starting from the final and backwards) against us in terms of goals kicked are: 

0,0,4,4,4

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It’s a No from me.  Good offensive player but chase and tackle is nil. 

But I trust Goodwin to structure his team. If Goody thinks he’d be a plus, then I’d support him. 

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I understand the knock on Menzel but his offensive side of the game is elite. He ranked 16th in the league for goals per game last year ahead of Tom Lynch (GCS), Walker, Greene, Gray, Curnow, Membrey and Betts.

I would be in favour of bringing him onto the list instead of pick 90. What if Weideman or McDonald get injured this year?

 

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7 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

I understand the knock on Menzel but his offensive side of the game is elite. He ranked 16th in the league for goals per game last year ahead of Tom Lynch (GCS), Walker, Greene, Gray, Curnow, Membrey and Betts.

I would be in favour of bringing him onto the list instead of pick 90. What if Weideman or McDonald get injured this year?

 

Preuss and Max to rotate forward.  They both actually chase and tackle...

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8 minutes ago, Watson11 said:

Preuss and Max to rotate forward.  They both actually chase and tackle...

This is probably plan B. But I think we could do with another alternative on our list.

 

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His forward play is very very good and he has some rare goal-awareness abilities. But his contested game and defensive run are nowhere near AFL standard. Absolute no from me. 

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On 10/21/2018 at 8:50 PM, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Would have to be the laziest player in the league.  Gets plenty of cheapies over the back because he doesn’t press or follow his man.  Two years in a row geelong have tried to palm him off.

With that said, he always seems to pop-up for a good match against us.  I’d draft him just so he doesn’t play against us again.

Can we rookie list him maybe?

22 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Everyone's so against him I'd probably take him.

Defensive pressure can't be much worse than Melksham's and more likely to get on the end of a few than Hannan who chases hard but rarely lays a tackle anyway. Was a gun back flanker in his early days, maybe he can have Lewis' spot.

Would be nice to have a gun goal kicker at Casey. A throw back to the days of Fevola!

To be serious I'm not sure he's a list fit but at what stage do you take a talented has been over a never was? 47th spot on the list at 150k plus incentives?

Really?

On 10/21/2018 at 10:31 PM, ding said:

Once apon a time, not so long ago, we would have been all over him.

Now, ..... not so much.

Thank the sweet (insert fave deity) above we dont need NQR"s like him now.

Yep, go back 4 - 6 years and anyone that had played a game for Geelong but wasn't in their absolute best 22 was still a champion player starved of opportunity by playing for the footy club with the team of the century.  

How times change.  PLEEEEEASSSE let them come full circle and let people speak of the MFC like this one day!

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3 hours ago, ENYAW said:

Hartung would be good. Menzel possiblily , not sure if there are better.

Hartung no and I’d prefer Jake Neade over Menzel. Didn’t really ignite at Port but maybe we can work some magic with him.

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I don't really follow footy much nowadays, since becoming almost solely fixated on the Demons during our dark years and getting an annoying foreign girlfriend who likes to do non-footy-related stuff on the weekends. 

I'm curious though, when did Menzel go from being an absolute menace who would undoubtedly tear us up in every match preview (and inevitably in actual games) to being an out an out downhill-skiing spud as repeated on here in every second comment? 

In a down year this year, and from a dozen appearances, Menzel kicked five bags of above three goals, including two tallies of four and a fiver. Three of those bags were against Melbourne, Hawthorn and Richmond. Last year he kicked 40. 

No harm in a life-line - and let him and Garlett know that whoever puts in for the one percenters gets a gig. 

 

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