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he's been gone for days, but it's common knowledge in the playing group now. nothing less than two picks (one for May). also St Kilda offered Kent THREE TIMES $$ and years what we did. idiots.

thanks mate , I can tell you that Miss 11 and 13 was more upset , than my 7 year old , I guess as we also sponsored Jesse we had met with him many times personally and so on, It was hard for the kids

There is a miss conception by some on Demonland.  The preferred position by our FD is and has always been for JH to stay. Let me make this point with absolute and clear authority. I have been told dir

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38 minutes ago, Tony Tea said:

Any chance the Dees will get pick 5, and then instead of giving it to the Suns, trade it up to a higher pick? Say, 1, 2, 3 or 4, similar to what we did with (I think) Oliver and Weid?

I don't think we'd need to it's not like other drafts where there's only 2-3 great players. There are 7 amazing players in this draft.

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43 minutes ago, Spud said:

Think you may find, the GC have ample picks this year at the top of the order and are looking to try and bank picks for next year when they will have the start of a number of elite academy players start to come through. While they May still want Pick 5 for May (lots of May's), they will then look to either turn this into picks next year or look for a group of Future picks instead of taking pick 5 into next years draft to lift the points they have available for academy players. How they do that remains to be seen, but one thing I can guarantee is they want picks next year! Apparently their Academy squad at junior levels is pretty darn good, coming from far more informed sources than I on the subject of scouting and recruiting.

Thanks. No idea what or how they'll use it,only it's the OVERPAYMENT for May. Other players picks etc bound to be part of the change coming back.Theyre just my thoughts of course.

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22 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Hogan’s manager’s $8mil/8year Furphy has worked wonders on some. 

RGRS hook, line and sinker.

I made a general warning to all posters re: antagonizing, baiting, trolling etc. I gave you a private "friendly" warning regarding this. Consider this a public still friendly-but-cooling-a-la-Fremantle-to-Jesse-Hogan-in-your-humble-opinion warning.

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3 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I made a general warning to all posters re: antagonizing, baiting, trolling etc. I gave you a private "friendly" warning regarding this. Consider this a public still friendly-but-cooling-a-la-Fremantle-to-Jesse-Hogan-in-your-humble-opinion warning.

I got a warning a while back for calling Saty "Scoota"

This is only going to end one way if this bloke is who everyone suspects. Save you breath and make a call on him now, before the site becomes unreadable again.

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5 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I made a general warning to all posters re: antagonizing, baiting, trolling etc. I gave you a private "friendly" warning regarding this. Consider this a public still friendly-but-cooling-a-la-Fremantle-to-Jesse-Hogan-in-your-humble-opinion warning.

Sorry, sir. But Enter the Range Rover started it. Shall I now go stand in the corner?

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My take on Hogan!  If he goes then it is a big loss for MFC.  We recruited an eventual superstar, MFC looked after him, developed him and bent over backwards to accomodate his requests.  These guys do not grow on trees and in my opinion he owes the MFC and supporters.

If he goes, I DO NOT WANT MFC to ever recruit interstate sooks who cannot grow up and live away from home.  This go home factor is out of control and it should be hauled in by the AFL.

As for Hogan maybe he just needs to mature a bit and realise he was given a great opportunity by the MFC and never was invested.  No wishing him well on my part, hope he spends years trudging off the ground as a Fremantle player at the bottom of the ladder, while watching his former teammates play finals.  

Maybe surfing is more important to Jesse than success at a football club.

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33 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Hogan’s manager’s $8mil/8year Furphy has worked wonders on some. 

RGRS hook, line and sinker.

 

9 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I made a general warning to all posters re: antagonizing, baiting, trolling etc. I gave you a private "friendly" warning regarding this. Consider this a public still friendly-but-cooling-a-la-Fremantle-to-Jesse-Hogan-in-your-humble-opinion warning.

Please leave 'RR' on until at least the trade period has finished 'Demonland'.

It's going to be priceless to see the reaction if he's proven wrong...

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Apparently there ain't no deal.

As I said at the start .

Another year, another Hogan hysteria.

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6 minutes ago, Soidee said:

My take on Hogan!  If he goes then it is a big loss for MFC.  We recruited an eventual superstar, MFC looked after him, developed him and bent over backwards to accomodate his requests.  These guys do not grow on trees and in my opinion he owes the MFC and supporters.

If he goes, I DO NOT WANT MFC to ever recruit interstate sooks who cannot grow up and live away from home.  This go home factor is out of control and it should be hauled in by the AFL.

As for Hogan maybe he just needs to mature a bit and realise he was given a great opportunity by the MFC and never was invested.  No wishing him well on my part, hope he spends years trudging off the ground as a Fremantle player at the bottom of the ladder, while watching his former teammates play finals.  

Maybe surfing is more important to Jesse than success at a football 

You expect players to be loyal but clubs aren't loyal to players. It's 2 sets of standards. As soon as a player is 30 and nearing a fringe player then they're given the boot so let's not pretend that clubs are loyal to players. Clubs are only loyal to good players so Hogan has every right to go and doesn't owe us anything. Same with scully. 

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1 hour ago, EnterTheDragon said:

The Demons not even mentioned by Cameron despite Mahoney’s previous very public declaration of our interest. 

Clear shift away from Melbourne. Suns open to all viable offers now that the Hogan trade looks dead and buried.

What other viable offers are there? Dogs at 7 the only one but unlikely they'd (Dogs) be willing to do that.

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13 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

You expect players to be loyal but clubs aren't loyal to players. It's 2 sets of standards. As soon as a player is 30 and nearing a fringe player then they're given the boot so let's not pretend that clubs are loyal to players. Clubs are only loyal to good players so Hogan has every right to go and doesn't owe us anything. Same with scully. 

We are not letting him go at 30 yrs old!  Nor Scully!  I do not agree with your view.  Hogan is in his prime and wants out!!

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So sounds like we will end up doing the following;

OUT: Hogan, one of picks 46 or 54

IN: May, KK, one of picks 18, 23 or 30

Fingers crossed it's pick 54 out and pick 18 in.

 

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This whole trade period has become a farce!! 

Deliberately holding back announcing deals for Foxtel is ludicrous.  Not one deal of significance has gone thru.  Pending:

  • Shiel
  • Wingard
  • Scully
  • Lobb
  • Kelly
  • Beams
  • Neale
  • Hogan
  • May

That is a lot to get done in a few hours.

Wouldn't be surprised if they start filming at Noon to make sure the paperwork is done in time.  Then edit it down to a few hours to make it 'interesting and to look 'live' but delay putting it to air. 

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15 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

apparently? sounds like a decent source lol

the trade will go down tomorrow

No it won't .

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Just now, Lucifer's Hero said:

This whole trade period has become a farce!! 

Deliberately holding back announcing deals for Foxtel is ludicrous.  Not one deal of significance has gone thru.  Pending:

  • Shiel
  • Wingard
  • Scully
  • Lobb
  • Kelly
  • Beams
  • Neale
  • Hogan
  • May

That is a lot to get done in a few hours.

Wouldn't be surprised if they start filming at Noon to make sure the paperwork is done in time.  Then edit it down to a few hours to make it 'interesting and to look 'live' but delay outting to air. 

Very fishy if you ask me. And who sticks up for the AFL....

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1 minute ago, Soidee said:

We are not letting him go at 30 yrs old!  Nor Scully!  I do not agree with your view.  Hogan is in his prime and wants out!!

I think his point is that loyalty on both ends doesn’t exist as much as it once did. If we are happy to shop players around as pieces of commodities isn’t it fair that the players do the same when they may get the best value for themselves?

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