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2 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Lol. How is flying to Perth going to help his cause?

”Please accept pick 5 Belly. I’ve come all the way across the Nullarbor. It’s a long way to come mate. Pretty please?”

Pretty stressful time for Neale and Adams and he’s showing care because he’s a committed coach and a genuinely good bloke. I’m not surprised you didn’t understand that. 

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7 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Pretty stressful time for Neale and Adams and he’s showing care because he’s a committed coach and a genuinely good bloke. I’m not surprised you didn’t understand that. 

Let me get this straight ... you think he’s going there to give Neale a mancuddle and a ruffle through the hair?

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1 minute ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Let me get this straight ... you think he’s going there to give Neale a mancuddle?

Would say it’s more to ensure no one gets in his ear to stay at Freo when things get tough at the trade table. It’s keeping the Brisbane influence there in Perth

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19 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Yes, in fact I’m certain that’s the case. It’s not uncommon. Simon Goodwin has visited Kolo in the last week. 

Patches whenever you say things like “I’m certain that’s the case” or “I know for a fact” I instantly get visions of Maxwell Smart and Inspector Clueso.

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34 minutes ago, It's Time said:

5 & 23 for Hogan could end up being a good deal if Mahoney weaves his magic. Crows are desperate to move up the draft order so we trade them to Crows for their 8 & 13. 8 is very fair for May & we still end up with 13, a first rounder. 

5 = 1878 points  

23 = 815

TL=  2693

8 = 1551

13 = 1212

TL= 2763.  

 The difference is only 70 points which is what pick 67 is worth. So maybe some horse trading of late picks. Our 65 for their 73 which ironically they have from us as part of the Lever trade last year. Bet none of us knew that. That gets us giving them 10pts over. Good enough. 

KK is weaved in to the pick 8 plus next year's 3rd rounder or whatever. 

Then we use 13 in the draft or we get a ready made gun from somewhere that magically appears at the last moment which FD have been sitting on . 

Alternatively Hogan stays we get May for nothing next year as a Free Agent and get a first rounder for Hogan and end up with more than if the deal was done this year. Although by then Hogan will be sniffing a Premiership and won't go and we'll get May as a FA. Win Win. 

8 is only very fair for May if Suns concur.

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Don’t know why people keep talking about pick 8. This won’t move until draft night.

If we have 5, and if Razkine drops to 5, then we may get the opportunity to then trade for pick 8/13.

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1 hour ago, A F said:

I'm a novice when it comes to the points system, but would picks 23 and 30 equate to a top 20 pick?

And if we traded 5 for May and KK, would packaging 23, 30 and 36 get us a pick between 10-15?

Have to package to a club in need of points for matching bids on academy/fatherson picks.

 

23 = 815 points

30 = 629 points

36 = 502 points

Total 1976 points which is enough points to match a bid at 5 (without factoring in discounts)

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7 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Patches whenever you say things like “I’m certain that’s the case” or “I know for a fact” I instantly get visions of Maxwell Smart and Inspector Clusoe.

That’s because you don’t know what you’re talking about. But that’s okay. I forgive you stuie ❤️

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40 minutes ago, willmoy said:

Anyone figured out how much we might have to pay of JH's present contract?

Why would any club pay wages of an opposition player who they've essentially been outbid on?

MFC: Jesse we'll pay you $900k per year, please stay.

FFC: Jesse, come to us and we'll pay you $1 mil a year.

Jesse: Ok Freo I'm in, go and deal with my club.

FFC: MFC, can you please help us out by paying $200k a year for your player that we've offered more for?

It doesn't work like that.

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25 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Patches whenever you say things like “I’m certain that’s the case” or “I know for a fact” I instantly get visions of Maxwell Smart and Inspector Clueso.

When you say things like "He’s not going there people. The negotiation is dead and buried." I instantly get visions of Grandpa Simpson shouting at a cloud.

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6 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Are you admitting you've had a previous account on Demonland? Were you banned, and is it actually allowed to return under a new name?

I’ve admitted nothing other than I’m not the artist formerly known as ‘stuey “.

Anyway, who made you the special ed monitor?

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1 hour ago, No Plan B said:

Herald Sun saying our stance re. Two first round picks has softened. Noooooooo 

If we get 5 and 23, Adelaide will trade them both for 8 and 13, which gives us 2 first rounders. 

The question is whether we do that and give GCS 8 for May, or whether we give them 5 and they make the trade with Adelaide. 

If we send pick 5 to GCS I really hope we get something back (say 29).

That way it's effectively:

Hogan for May and 13; or

Hogan for May and 23 and 29 (pick 9 equivalent).

 

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4 minutes ago, deanox said:

If we get 5 and 23, Adelaide will trade them both for 8 and 13, which gives us 2 first rounders. 

The question is whether we do that and give GCS 8 for May, or whether we give them 5 and they make the trade with Adelaide. 

If we send pick 5 to GCS I really hope we get something back (say 29).

That way it's effectively:

Hogan for May and 13; or

Hogan for May and 23 and 29 (pick 9 equivalent).

 

Adelaide won’t trade up until the live drafting happens.

They would have 2 options

1. Trade for pick 5 now and hope player x is there

2. Wait until player x is there and then trade for pick 5.

 

Obviously option 2 makes more sense for them. 

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I don't know about Jesse as a backman. I mean we were doing fine until Lever went down. May would help our defense, sure, but Hogan is a much better forward than May is a defender. Don't know what to believe around the freo / Jesse trade. Unless he has a long term injury, they're complete fools. I do hope Jesse will sign an 8 year contract with us if he doesn't go to Freo. I think he's already broken a lot of Melbourne hearts by taking us by surprise with this. Needs to mend the wound if he's going to stay.

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14 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Yet you found it funny that the guess was wrong, not that it was funny Patches thought you were a reincarnate.

It's pretty clear to me, and I hope the mods are thoroughly looking into it.

I’m pegging you for a front row by the teacher type of kid back in schooldays. Am I right?

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