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30 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

They aren’t offering pick 11 for lobb.. they’re offering pick 11 for lobb and pick 25 

pick 11 alone for lobb would be ridiculous.

Semantics Patches. 11 in play for Lobb I said and it happened. 

Stick to throwing wrenches at Average Joes Gym Dodgeballers old boy.

Have you got your Whispy Watson happy snap ready?

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he's been gone for days, but it's common knowledge in the playing group now. nothing less than two picks (one for May). also St Kilda offered Kent THREE TIMES $$ and years what we did. idiots.

thanks mate , I can tell you that Miss 11 and 13 was more upset , than my 7 year old , I guess as we also sponsored Jesse we had met with him many times personally and so on, It was hard for the kids

There is a miss conception by some on Demonland.  The preferred position by our FD is and has always been for JH to stay. Let me make this point with absolute and clear authority. I have been told dir

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3 minutes ago, sue said:

That is just being silly.   Regardless of whether it is fair or not, you can't say that is proof that MFC has publicly stated something a few days ago.    

Thats exactly what he is worth. And a player only worth what someone is willing to paid for him.

Pick 5 is a massive pick. Look what port gave up to get pick 6. MFC will never see a pick under 5 hopefully in a long time.

MFC like to get deals done and get the players they want in and out. They have make very clear they really need pick 5 for may and kk any extra is a plus. 

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The $8mil over 8 years is an obvious Furphy from Hogan’s manager to save face now that Freo have rejected him. Or at least given the appearance of rejecting him.

Trying to make it look like Freo baulked at his asking price. 

Nice little ploy but total horseshite.

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Just now, johndemonic said:

We're not trying to win a negotiation, we're trying to improve our list.

To improve our list, we have to win a series of negotiations. Every deal that is done during the trade period is the result of a negotiation.  

In an ideal world, it would be a win/win. It was in the case of the Preuss/Tyson trade.

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3 hours ago, jnrmac said:

From memory he either said two high first round draft picks or two top 10 picks..I couldn't be arsed looking it up but feel free to flick back a few pages and you might find it....

It's not my claim.  Quote or it didn't happen

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5 & 23 for Hogan could end up being a good deal if Mahoney weaves his magic. Crows are desperate to move up the draft order so we trade them to Crows for their 8 & 13. 8 is very fair for May & we still end up with 13, a first rounder. 

5 = 1878 points  

23 = 815

TL=  2693

8 = 1551

13 = 1212

TL= 2763.  

 The difference is only 70 points which is what pick 67 is worth. So maybe some horse trading of late picks. Our 65 for their 73 which ironically they have from us as part of the Lever trade last year. Bet none of us knew that. That gets us giving them 10pts over. Good enough. 

KK is weaved in to the pick 8 plus next year's 3rd rounder or whatever. 

Then we use 13 in the draft or we get a ready made gun from somewhere that magically appears at the last moment which FD have been sitting on . 

Alternatively Hogan stays we get May for nothing next year as a Free Agent and get a first rounder for Hogan and end up with more than if the deal was done this year. Although by then Hogan will be sniffing a Premiership and won't go and we'll get May as a FA. Win Win. 

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34 minutes ago, Dippy said:

Why is everyone on here ask for 2 first rounds pick. We are not getting that and never were. Everyone is dreaming 😴😴😴

MFC said on friday they were always happy with pick 5 and a second round (around pick 23). Which equals pick 2 on points. Thats very very fair.

 

Sure. I might be dreaming, but from this point in negotiations I would certainly expect 2 firsts. 5 and 2019 first.

Fremantle will be forced to offload Neale, then they’re in real trouble.

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1 minute ago, It's Time said:

5 & 23 for Hogan could end up being a good deal if Mahoney weaves his magic. Crows are desperate to move up the draft order so we trade them to Crows for their 8 & 13. 8 is very fair for May & we still end up with 13, a first rounder. 

5 = 1878 points  

23 = 815

TL=  2693

8 = 1551

13 = 1212

TL= 2763.  

 The difference is only 70 points which is what pick 67 is worth. So maybe some horse trading of late picks. Our 65 for their 73 which ironically they have from us as part of the Lever trade last year. Bet none of us knew that. That gets us giving them 10pts over. Good enough. 

KK is weaved in to the pick 8 plus next year's 3rd rounder or whatever. 

Then we use 13 in the draft or we get a ready made gun from somewhere that magically appears at the last moment which FD have been sitting on . 

I would not put it past Bell to trade 5 to Adelaide himself if he gets it for Neale and then offer us 8 and 23

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40 minutes ago, Dippy said:

Why is everyone on here ask for 2 first rounds pick. We are not getting that and never were. Everyone is dreaming 😴😴😴

MFC said on friday they were always happy with pick 5 and a second round (around pick 23). Which equals pick 2 on points. Thats very very fair.

 

Mahoney:

“We think he’s going to be right up at the highest that anyone has been traded for and we think that Fremantle have that opportunity with some picks that they may gain.”

"Basically, if Fremantle want to get Jesse Hogan, they know the deal they have to give for us and Jesse's aware of that.

"They haven't spoken to us about anything that entertains us at all about doing a deal."

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2 minutes ago, It's Time said:

5 & 23 for Hogan could end up being a good deal if Mahoney weaves his magic. Crows are desperate to move up the draft order so we trade them to Crows for their 8 & 13. 8 is very fair for May & we still end up with 13, a first rounder. 

5 = 1878 points  

23 = 815

TL=  2693

8 = 1551

13 = 1212

TL= 2763.  

 The difference is only 70 points which is what pick 67 is worth. So maybe some horse trading of late picks. Our 65 for their 73 which ironically they have from us as part of the Lever trade last year. Bet none of us knew that. That gets us giving them 10pts over. Good enough. 

KK is weaved in to the pick 8 plus next year's 3rd rounder or whatever. 

Then we use 13 in the draft or we get a ready made gun from somewhere that magically appears at the last moment which FD have been sitting on . 

Finally !!!

Someone to make sense  👍

5 and 23 very happy

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3 hours ago, Good Lord George said:

Tom not the sharpest tool in the shed

He's not even in the shed. He is standing outside in the rain, shivering.

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1 minute ago, qarocks said:

Mahoney:

“We think he’s going to be right up at the highest that anyone has been traded for and we think that Fremantle have that opportunity with some picks that they may gain.”

"Basically, if Fremantle want to get Jesse Hogan, they know the deal they have to give for us and Jesse's aware of that.

"They haven't spoken to us about anything that entertains us at all about doing a deal."

Old news. That was late Monday. That was a long time ago, things change pretty quite. 

Unfortunately he's not worth a highest trade ever. If WC had a better hand, then maybe.

 

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10 minutes ago, Dippy said:

Thats exactly what he is worth. And a player only worth what someone is willing to paid for him.

Pick 5 is a massive pick. Look what port gave up to get pick 6. MFC will never see a pick under 5 hopefully in a long time.

MFC like to get deals done and get the players they want in and out. They have make very clear they really need pick 5 for may and kk any extra is a plus. 

I believe it was clear that KK can be a separate trade.

Hogan for pick 5 and 23 was a fine trade, last week.

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You know what I'd love to see...

Us to suggest just pick 5 is good enough. Freo then trades out Neale for pick 5 from Brisbane and then for us to refuse trading Hogan.

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3 minutes ago, the rolling fog said:

The purple headed warrior is reporting that Fagan is in Perth personally attempting to seal the Neale deal.

Could still be more to play out yet

Woops apparently Bell has gone to Melbourne. 

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2 minutes ago, the rolling fog said:

The purple headed warrior is reporting that Fagan is in Perth personally attempting to seal the Neale deal.

Could still be more to play out yet

Lol. How is flying to Perth going to help his cause?

”Please accept pick 5 Belly. I’ve come all the way across the Nullarbor. It’s a long way to come mate. Pretty please?”

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