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2 hours ago, Chook in Perth said:

Freo have cold feet. it's not no, but it's far from yes.

I know why, but I like my house and don't want to lose it for slander.

It's not slander if true. 

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he's been gone for days, but it's common knowledge in the playing group now. nothing less than two picks (one for May). also St Kilda offered Kent THREE TIMES $$ and years what we did. idiots.

thanks mate , I can tell you that Miss 11 and 13 was more upset , than my 7 year old , I guess as we also sponsored Jesse we had met with him many times personally and so on, It was hard for the kids

There is a miss conception by some on Demonland.  The preferred position by our FD is and has always been for JH to stay. Let me make this point with absolute and clear authority. I have been told dir

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On 7/17/2018 at 6:50 AM, deebug said:

People, please do not even waste your time on the bias media of ours, they are full of s*#@ and only spout dribble.

Perhaps you mean ‘biased news media’ and ‘drivel’. Did you go to school?

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41 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

No shortage of irony in a few prominent posters claiming to now by ‘reading the tea leaves’ either having no clue that this was going to happen a few weeks ago, or adamant that it would never happen while they remained above ground. 

Talk about run with the foxes and hunt with the hounds! 

All fun though. Human nature to want to come out crowing.  

I wish you were my dad when I was 17. 

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1 hour ago, faultydet said:

Thats incorrect Ethan.

I always get ads for asian dating sites, and I havent visit one of those for about 10 years.

 

I reckon its connected in some way to the cloud bursting amount of porn I download.

Cant be right... i see the same adds all the time at work and i never have time to watch porn here.

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1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

So no further news today, and Jesse is reportedly enjoying himself in Bali. Either it's been done behind closed doors out of the public eye, or he's stuffing both clubs around. The fact he toured Freo's facilities shows his lack of commitment to us, and for that reason I think it's best we try to move him on and get the best deal possible.

I am in Bali. Should I try and find him and get an answer if he is going or staying?

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1 hour ago, Deevout said:

I am in Bali. Should I try and find him and get an answer if he is going or staying?

👀 😀

Are you suggesting you're going to visit him and make an offer he can't refuse. But which way. 

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2 hours ago, Unleash Hell said:

Restricted or unrestricted or unsigned, who cares. We all know where the power lies.... agents and players

Yes but free agency is different to uncontacted. He can't just walk for a good deal, the other club still has to figure out a suitable trade.

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Theres a new show about to start on Channel 9 called the traded table with Barrett and Lloyd...  looks like its a direct replacement for Footy Classified.

Maybe we will get some new information.   Barrett usually has good mail and Lloyd is good to listen to.

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Really don't want Hogan to go. But feel like the most likely scenario will be him going and us getting a first rounder (and maybe a third round pick exchange or something). If he goes and we miss out on May though, then we'll really have stuffed things up. Pretty surprised and disappointed with Hogan in any event. I thought he wanted to be here.

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7 hours ago, corowa said:

What the media thinks Hogan is worth should be of no consequence to us. If Hogan wants to go to Fremantle we set a not negotiable price. If it's not met he stays with us.

It will be interesting to see what Fremantle demand and get in return for Lachie Neale.

It would seem that Geelong have taken a firm line with Kelly. I hate Geelong but I do admire their recruiting strategies and success with recruiting. We need to take a leaf out of their book. We must not be pushovers.

Bit off topic I know, but I’m no fan of Geelong these days, but I think they are entitled to play hardball with kelly. Funny he’s so desperate to go home but is only interested in WCE. Disingenuous.

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1 hour ago, binman said:

It's not slander if true. 

In Australia, truth is a lousy defence. 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/10891881/Restaurant-owners-win-libel-damages-over-scathing-review-after-11-year-legal-battle.html

I don't think Chook will end up in a legal case but these things are left unsaid.

And I also don't think there's all too much out of the ordinary in any of these Hogan rumours - just Tom Browne doing some muck raking. There's a decent football case to be made for Melbourne trading Hogan and for Freo picking him up. In the end that should prevail. 

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Well I hardly think he’s going to make his big decision in Bali. Quick tour of Freo’s facilities before flying out, with a nice last minute phone call to his manager telling him to do what it takes as he’s walking to the terminal. 

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48 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Yes but free agency is different to uncontacted. He can't just walk for a good deal, the other club still has to figure out a suitable trade.

Gc didn't with Lynch.

 

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1 hour ago, It's Time said:

Are you suggesting you're going to visit him and make an offer he can't reject. But which way. 

Ask him does he want to be at a club rebuilding from the ashes again. 

This time with Ross not Roos.....

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6 hours ago, Wells 11 said:

Apologies if this is already up here somewhere...I just cant bring myself to read back 15 pages when nothing has actually happened!  

Gary Buckenara in the sun said this about jesses value.

" There is an element of buyer beware with Hogan, however, given he has a long history of injury and illness that would be of concern. Plus there are the attitude issues with his body language and negativity that have been well-documented.I don’t think he’s worth two first-round picks. I place his trade value at an early first-round pick and maybe a swap of second-round picks, but those injury and performance issues impact the Demons’ ability to get a sweetener" 

As much as I hate to admit it ( please dont shout at me)  he may well be right. If i think of Oliver leaving  its internal hysteria and wanting to two top 5 picks. Hogan is not affecting me and many here in the same for the reasons I think that Bucky lists. 

They said same about Richo and Riewoldt at tigers re attitude.....

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OUT - Hogan, Melb 2019 1st Round Future Pick, Pick 33

IN - Pick 5, Freos 2019 1st Round Future Pick, Ed Langdon

IN - May, Kade K, Pick 26, 

OUT - Freos 2019 1st Round Pick, Dom Tyson, Pick 43

 

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3 minutes ago, Dee tention said:

OUT - Hogan, Melb 2019 1st Round Future Pick, Pick 33

IN - Pick 5, Freos 2019 1st Round Future Pick, Ed Langdon

IN - May, Kade K, Pick 26, 

OUT - Freos 2019 1st Round Pick, Dom Tyson, Pick 43

 

Hope Hogan stays but if he goes we need to get a good deal. Suns will want the Pick 5 for May and not a future 1st round. Reworked below. Otherwise it works. 

In May, KK, Ed Langdon, Freo 1st round 2019, Suns 2nd round compo pick 30  

out Hogan, Tyson, MFC 1st round 2019, MFC 2nd round pick 40, 3rd Round pick 48 (Crows Lever compo) 

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9 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Suns will want the Pick 5 for May and not a future 1st round. Reworked below. Otherwise it works. 

Not in a million years would I trade pick 5 for Steven May. Jesus! What a disastrous outcome that would be.

I'd rather take a punt in the draft with talent that high, at least you'll get a decade longer out of them!

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3 hours ago, sue said:

So Chook could name names as Jaded asked. 

I expect if there was a thread which implied specific naughty behaviour by an unnamed individual and a name was mentioned in a post in the thread without tieing it in any way to the behaviour, you might be in legal trouble because of the context.

<still shooting for 200>

You have changed the goal posts and gone beyond the statement you asked me to comment on.

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