Farewell Jesse Hogan

[John Crow Batty 8,215]

10 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

John Banner (Shultz), Leon Askin (General Burkhalter) and Robert Clary (LeBeau) were other cast members who were born Jewish, the latter having been liberated from Buchenwald.

Side notes: 

- When Klemperer was approached to play Colonel Klink, he agreed to do it only if the writers made Klink an idiot.

- The scar on Askin’s face came from being beaten while in the custody of the SS. And, as a little boy, he performed in front of Franz Joseph, Emperor of Austria-Hungary.

- Banner posed for U.S. Military recruiting posters during the war.

- Clary was the youngest of 14 children, and is the only major cast member still living.

I believe the guy who played the Gestapo Major Hochstetter was also Jewish as well as numerous other minor characters in the show. It is strange to think now that all those actors who were directly impacted by the holocaust could in a relatively short time afterwards be willing to be involved in a comedy about Nazis. Could never happen these days. 

Edited February 23, 2019 by america de cali

[Bitter but optimistic 21,150]

12 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Maybe, but I believe he was also a womaniser with a keen interest in photography and video, if you know what I mean

Seems like a reasonable knockabout type of bloke.

[sue 8,402]

14 minutes ago, america de cali said:

I believe the guy who played the Gestapo Major Hochstetter was also Jewish as well as numerous other minor characters in the show. It is strange to think now that all those actors who were directly impacted by the holocaust could in a relatively short time afterwards be willing to be involved in a comedy about Nazis. Could never happen these days. 

Why? Because right-wingers would claim it was insulting to Nazis?

[John Crow Batty 8,215]

10 minutes ago, sue said:

Why? Because right-wingers would claim it was insulting to Nazis?

I have discussed this with some long time Jewish friends who love the show. There are mixed reactions and many older generation ones love the show. Younger ones who have some knowledge of the show think it is abhorrent. This kind of humour does not play well in modern times. 

Edited February 23, 2019 by america de cali

[Moonshadow 16,099]

10 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Seems like a reasonable knockabout type of bloke.

You would say that...

[Dame Gaga 2,453]

On 2/23/2019 at 6:55 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

Oh yes Bob Crane had a very shady life outside of acting. 

 

Yeh but not with me l didn't get a chance worse lick ah ! l mean luck. phew!

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,381]

I love Demonland for the educational diversions.

[JV7 2,339]

Out of round 1 for Freo. Was out drinking Saturday night & missed training Sunday. Club says he is battling clinical anxiety

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2019-fremantle-confirms-jesse-hogan-wont-play-in-round-1-no-fixed-timeline-for-return/news-story/cc99e4e77f91a90416866414c2498d25

Edited March 18, 2019 by JV7

[Lord Travis 10,130]

Source:

https://m.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2019-03-18/club-statement?fbclid=IwAR0JrZUK5OiWjnOimotEl-g2XrPtV5GVwx6-s34CdsyYHsxE5QUTDR8H53A&utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

I’m guessing the club knew about this and it contributed to us trading him for what may have seemed unders. Hope he pulls through it ok; he’s had a rough time of it the past few years with his fathers death and his own health battles.

[GCDee 3,004]

Wow.... In all honesty I feel sorry for the guy. I am the same age as him and cannot imagine going through what he has gone through in his short career. 

 

But no matter what you have gone through being in an AFL environment for as long as he has, should have taught him some professionalism. At some point getting on the sauce a week before round one he must have known this is not going to end well, and will make headlines and likely make his situation worse. Surely being back home around friends and family (which is why he left melbourne?) He has someone, anyone to turn to if he is struggling with his mental issues rather than getting on it? 

 

Not an attack on his character, but maybe goody and the decision makers at the dees new about these issues and this is the reason we happy to let him go for "unders"

[Wiseblood 24,636]

From a supporter point of view, we as a club clearly knew what we were doing when we traded him.  No doubt about it.  The same goes for Watts being traded the previous season.

On a personal level, I feel sorry for him.  As a few above have mentioned, he has been through a bucket load of stuff that not many people go through at his age, and he's had to do it in the limelight of being an AFL footballer.  I hope he is able to pull through and just be happy with being Jesse Hogan the person, not Jesse Hogan the AFL footballer.

[phuket demon 76]

Come on mate. Sort it out. 

Jesse Hogan of the Dockers won’t face North Melbourne in Round 1.Source: Getty Images

Star Fremantle recruit Jesse Hogan has been deemed unavailable for Round 1 selection against North Melbourne as he deals with “clinical anxiety”.

Fremantle football boss Peter Bell confirmed Hogan didn’t train on Sunday following some “poor choices” with alcohol consumption the night before.

Edited March 18, 2019 by phuket demon
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[What 18,810]

Wonder if he was out drinking with Harley Bennell?

[Sir Why You Little 34,405]

what a sad situation. I am not suprised at all, considering what he went through last year. 

The photo of him at the nightclub before Christmas told me enough

I hope Jesse gets his life together. I don’t think he wanted to leave the MFC, but he had to go home

Good luck Mate...

[Elwood 3184 1,263]

It’s becoming a common problem with footballers these days. 

Hopefully, he’ll come good.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,276]

Let’s hope he pulls himself together, the bloke could be anything. 

Edited March 18, 2019 by Ethan Tremblay

[Earl Hood 5,787]

Fremantle can’t take a trick! 

[dieter 3,325]

I feel really sad for Hogan. I began to stop hoping Hogan wouldn't leave when Freemantle hesitated. It would seem his issues were well known. Most of all, I feel sad for the lad. I wish him all the best and hope things work out for him in the long term.

[Demon trucker 1,722]

11 minutes ago, GCDee said:

Wow.... In all honesty I feel sorry for the guy. I am the same age as him and cannot imagine going through what he has gone through in his short career. 

 

But no matter what you have gone through being in an AFL environment for as long as he has, should have taught him some professionalism. At some point getting on the sauce a week before round one he must have known this is not going to end well, and will make headlines and likely make his situation worse. Surely being back home around friends and family (which is why he left melbourne?) He has someone, anyone to turn to if he is struggling with his mental issues rather than getting on it? 

 

Not an attack on his character, but maybe goody and the decision makers at the dees new about these issues and this is the reason we happy to let him go for "unders"

 people come up with the stupidest conclusions, maybe that's why goodyhe traded him that's got nothing to do with it,  Hogan brought this clinical anxiety on himself by going from a team that's going to challenge for the flag to a team that's  going to be in the bottom 5 for the next five years no wonder he's got anxiety

[Nelo 813]

Think we dodged a bullet getting rid of him. 

[DeeZee 6,717]

I always felt football was secondary in his life , and no wonder with all the stuff he has gone through.

I doubt whether he will reach his full potential and I feel he is a candidate for possible early retirement.

[old dee 22,799]

4 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

 people come up with the stupidest conclusions, maybe that's why goodyhe traded him that's got nothing to do with it,  Hogan brought this clinical anxiety on himself by going from a team that's going to challenge for the flag to a team that's  going to be in the bottom 5 for the next five years no wonder he's got anxiety

Hmm you still think it was him driving the change?

[Matt Demon 1,385]

2 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

 people come up with the stupidest conclusions, maybe that's why goodyhe traded him that's got nothing to do with it,  Hogan brought this clinical anxiety on himself by going from a team that's going to challenge for the flag to a team that's  going to be in the bottom 5 for the next five years no wonder he's got anxiety

So Jesse has clinical anxiety because he's moved from Melbourne FC to Fremantle FC? 

[phuket demon 76]

I dont know the guy personally. But I genuinely like him and hope he sorts it out. Then comes home to mfc, Croaf style. 

[Demon Disciple 10,882]

It might take him some time to get there, but once he returns to having somewhat of a 'normal' life (coming to terms with his father's passing, cancer battle, etc.) he will dominate. Perth is where he needs to be to get the best out of himself.

When it clicks for him (and it eventually will), he'll explode.