Farewell Jesse Hogan

[Willmoy1947 3,769]

2 hours ago, Lord Neville X Flash said:

Can we stop calling any journalist that has an opinion we disagree with a "Secret agent for XYZ club" or a "Melbourne hater". its just not true. These guys may be wrong, but there's no hidden agenda, take off the tin foil hats. 

Yes i agree, it's just that i have trouble deciding if they are equal to or below The AFL or the Umpires in the integrity battle.......

[Demon from Sydney 50]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Nah, the trade period should be longer if anything. In many pro sports the trade period extends into the season.

Haha right, so instead of 2 weeks to get 5 trades done they would take months.The longer the period doesnt equate to more trades,just more time wasting. Im actually for players moving all year but not in this way,i just think that if you're out of contract there should be no trades just go where you want with no compo.Freedom to move to the club of your choice if not contracted

[Dippy 17]

Why is everyone on here ask for 2 first rounds pick. We are not getting that and never were. Everyone is dreaming ???

MFC said on friday they were always happy with pick 5 and a second round (around pick 23). Which equals pick 2 on points. Thats very very fair.

 

[sue 8,418]

1 minute ago, Dippy said:

Why is everyone on here ask for 2 first rounds pick. We are not getting that and never were. Everyone is dreaming ???

MFC said on friday they were always happy with pick 5 and a second round (around pick 23). Which equals pick 2 on points. Thats very very fair.

 

MFC made no such statement as far as I am aware.  Some journo said he'd been told that. Didn't even say who told him.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,358]

4 minutes ago, Dippy said:

Why is everyone on here ask for 2 first rounds pick. We are not getting that and never were. Everyone is dreaming ???

MFC said on friday they were always happy with pick 5 and a second round (around pick 23). Which equals pick 2 on points. Thats very very fair.

 

Barrett said that, not the MFC.

[olisik 4,060]

A lot of people talking about this article and the Sun, but no one posting it. So here you are those stuck behind the pay wall

 

FREMANTLE footy boss Peter Bell will fly into Melbourne tomorrow to resolve a series of impasses holding up the trade period with two days to go.

The Demons and Dockers traded barbs in their public statements on Friday, but are set to resume key talks over the future of Melbourne spearhead Jesse Hogan.

Deals involving Hogan, Lion Dayne Beams and Suns’ stopper Steven May all hinge on the Dockers releasing midfield hard-nut Lachie Neale to Brisbane for the Lions’ top pick (No. 5) and a swap of other selections.

Lachie Neale looms as the man that could make the trade dominoes fall quickly tomorrow. Picture: Getty Images

The Neale deal will likely trigger Hogan’s move west to Fremantle, with the key forward’s connections hopeful the two clubs will final make ground on a deal today.
 

Edited October 15, 2018 by Grapeviney
Snipped for copyright reasons

[Binmans PA 25,997]

14 minutes ago, The Third Eye said:

Suggest that might be 5, 23 & 30.

At this point in time, Melbourne already has pick 36.

I'm a novice when it comes to the points system, but would picks 23 and 30 equate to a top 20 pick?

And if we traded 5 for May and KK, would packaging 23, 30 and 36 get us a pick between 10-15?

[Dippy 17]

2 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Barrett said that, not the MFC.

Which came from MFC

[sue 8,418]

1 minute ago, Dippy said:

Which came from MFC

Evidence?

 

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

5 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

And people scoffed and scolded when I said Freo would be offering pick 11 for Lobb a hundred pages back. 

[Dwight Schrute 16,749]

Just now, EnterTheDragon said:

And people scoffed and scolded when I said Freo would be offering pick 11 for Lobb a hundred pages back. 

They aren’t offering pick 11 for lobb.. they’re offering pick 11 for lobb and pick 25 

pick 11 alone for lobb would be ridiculous.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

2 hours ago, Good Lord George said:

Me thinks Tom Morris has become Freo's mouthpiece. The logic of the article is off.

'Jesse came to us and said he was relatively keen, but wanted $8mil over 8 years. I mean, it's not like he's a good player or we are poo, so how dare he?! Then Melbourne asked for 2 first rounders as well! Not like he's a good player or anything. Must be a trap! So we offered a first rounder and a second, and when they said no we rejected their trade (?) And now we are really angry if people question if we are bluffing, coz we are definitely not trading for him... but if Melbourne cave we will do a trade.'

Tom not the sharpest tool in the shed.

I watched the preliminary final at the Light Brigade Hotel in Paddington, a well known AFL pub in Sydney.

It was packed - probably 60% Weagles supporters but a lot of Dees fans in there too. Great atmosphere. For the first 30 seconds of the first quarter.

Tom Morris was at the pub, proudly sporting an MFC scarf. I ordered a round of beers next to him at the bar and, even though I didn’t chat to him, he genuinely seemed to be a Demons’ supporter.

Apologies if this is common knowledge but it seems relevant to point this out in circumstances where some here have accused him of being Freo’s mouth-piece on this issue.

 

[Ethan Tremblay 28,358]

Just now, EnterTheDragon said:

And people scoffed and scolded when I said Freo would be offering pick 11 for Lobb a hundred pages back. 

[Dippy 17]

4 minutes ago, sue said:

Evidence?

 

When the trade happens tomorrow or wednesday. There will be you evidence. We'll get pick 5 and a future second. Thats more then fair 

[layzie 28,698]

How about a current second round?

[Sydney Pennski 269]

4 minutes ago, Dippy said:

When the trade happens tomorrow or wednesday. There will be you evidence. We'll get pick 5 and a future second. Thats more then fair 

No. That won’t get it done.

[Demon Disciple 10,924]

12 minutes ago, A F said:

I'm a novice when it comes to the points system, but would picks 23 and 30 equate to a top 20 pick?

Picks 23 (815) + 30 (629) equates to 1444 points. Pick 9 = 1469 points and pick 10 = 1395. So in points terms that would equate to 2 top 10 picks (if including pick 5 as well)

[John Demonic 4,794]

15 minutes ago, A F said:

I'm a novice when it comes to the points system, but would picks 23 and 30 equate to a top 20 pick?

And if we traded 5 for May and KK, would packaging 23, 30 and 36 get us a pick between 10-15?

Only really equates if you're using it for academy player really. Otherwise pick 40,41,42,43 would equal top 10 pick, which we know doesn't.

[Pates 9,536]

6 minutes ago, Dippy said:

When the trade happens tomorrow or wednesday. There will be you evidence. We'll get pick 5 and a future second. Thats more then fair 

No it's not, and it won't happen.

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

2 hours ago, Lord Neville X Flash said:

Can we stop calling any journalist that has an opinion we disagree with a "Secret agent for XYZ club" or a "Melbourne hater". its just not true. These guys may be wrong, but there's no hidden agenda, take off the tin foil hats. 

Interesting comment from a guy that called me a [censored] for saying similar a few pages back. 

How’s your Recruit Harley Bennell thread going? What a corker...

[sue 8,418]

Just now, Dippy said:

When the trade happens tomorrow or wednesday. There will be you evidence. We'll get pick 5 and a future second. Thats more then fair 

That is just being silly.   Regardless of whether it is fair or not, you can't say that is proof that MFC has publicly stated something a few days ago.    

[Winners at last 4,716]

To win a negotiation you have to show you're willing to walk away. And the best way to show you're willing to walk away is to walk away.     

[John Demonic 4,794]

1 minute ago, bingers said:

To win a negotiation you have to show you're willing to walk away. And the best way to show you're willing to walk away is to walk away.     

We're not trying to win a negotiation, we're trying to improve our list.

Edited October 15, 2018 by johndemonic

[CHF 2,599]

I thin,kit needs to be kept in mind that the Hogan trade, if it happens did not have to be dependent on the Neale trade as Freo had pick 6 that they could have used to sen d to us as part of the trade.

They were greedy and sent it to Port for a range of later picks. Therefore they did not have a low first round to trade with us. It also set up this chain of trades wiating to happen.

It should be noted that to date they have not used any of the picks they gained from Port.

[beelzebub 22,225]

48 minutes ago, Redleg said:

A player who has no hope of playing 8 years.

I meant what club.. but I get your gist.