Changes v Hawthorn - Semi Final

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,132]

I do wonder about anyone who thinks Garlett would be a good in in a final. If Kent happened to become available it might make things interesting though. 

[dl4e 5,578]

No change. Forget about Garlett. The pressure would be too much for him and he might have to actually tackle which doesn't seem to be in his rule book. He is a good goal sneak though.

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,267]

7 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

I do wonder about anyone who thinks Garlett would be a good in in a final. If Kent happened to become available it might make things interesting though. 

Agree

Kent is really the only one to 'come back' and JKH is boderline but the rest don't seem to be putting genuine pressure on for spots, will be a matter of support for injuries

Spargo would be first out in my mind, a few nice kicks for goal assists but not much else really, and the miss from 30m out (shank kick out on full) was disappointing, that should be his bread and butter

Probably no change 

[Bitter but optimistic 21,157]

Unless someone comes up injured you could put the mortgage on no change.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

6 minutes ago, deanox said:

I honestly don't understand anyone suggesting Garlett or Hunt.

Past glories I spose. In Garlett's case, he has played great footy in his career, and for us as recently as last year when some had him in AA calculations. Hunt likewise, if we're serious about blooding youth they would think about exposing him, even though he's out of form. I had him as a core player coming into this season... I actually have Smith not too far off that point too.

But yeah, this isn't a making up the numbers thing... win next weekend (which we absolutely should back ourselves to do), and we're in a prelim.

[JTR 2,627]

Purely a hypothetical, but if Hogan & Lever were both fit, had match fitness & form, do they both come in? And for whom?

[Gorgoroth 12,305]

No change for me.

Spargo will be better this week, offers so much off the ball. Tyson just needs to take the first option and not try and dance around players in tight spots, always gets tackled and pinged for htb.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

4 hours ago, wheaters31 said:

I believe that Melksham is carrying a groin injury. 

Not enough to force him out, but they will have to manage it for rest of season.

I hope that explains his left foot kick for goal.

 

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40 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

I do wonder about anyone who thinks Garlett would be a good in in a final. If Kent happened to become available it might make things interesting though. 

People have to stop thinking of the Garlett from over 12 months ago,

[Cards13 9,117]

One of the things that really stands out to me is our lack of front and centre/small fwd pace when we bring it to ground. A Garlett type would be a real benefit but he ain’t performing so I wouldn’t expect any changes. 

[monoccular 15,995]

2 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

There were no charges laid from the Match Review of last night’s Elimination Final so we are all clear on that front.

One matter was explained further.

Aaron Vandenberg cleared contact JMurdoch, 2nd term. It was ruled Vandenberg made a genuine attempt to tackle and his actions were not unreasonable in the circumstances

WTF incident was that?   

46 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

I do wonder about anyone who thinks Garlett would be a good in in a final. If Kent happened to become available it might make things interesting though. 

Trust is vital in finals .... so no Jeffy for me.

Were Kent to be available they would at least have to look at Spargo. 

[kev martin 8,804]

Wouldn't know who to drop. 

Bernie Vince could be an in with his experience and possibly last games. He has a beautiful kick and we saw what experience can give with the example of Jordan.

Another being Joel Smith who brings a little x-factor with his marking and flexibility to play back and forward,  though the step up with final pressure may be too much to expect. 

Jay Kennedy-Harris for his pressure acts, run and ability to be in contest.

We have some players who can cover if there are injuries.

[DV8 2,271]

8 hours ago, Mr Steve said:

Charlie Spargo – 5
The first-year youngster was not overawed in his first final, but as you would expect he did not have a lot of impact on the game. What he did best was dish the ball to teammates, ending the night with three score assists – the most of any player on the ground. 

he's a distributor. and clever.

[daisycutter 28,435]

3 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

There were no charges laid from the Match Review of last night’s Elimination Final so we are all clear on that front.

One matter was explained further.

Aaron Vandenberg cleared contact JMurdoch, 2nd term. It was ruled Vandenberg made a genuine attempt to tackle and his actions were not unreasonable in the circumstances

no selwood staging charges? i'm surprised

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,267]

10 minutes ago, DV8 said:

he's a distributor. and clever.

9 possessions at 67% effectiveness is hardly a distributor 

[Chook 14,388]

If Vince is fit, we should bring him in because he is experienced and composed, which is exactly what we need against Hawthorn.
If Vince isn't fit, we should just leave it.

I'm very worried about Isaac Smith though, and could Hannan possibly go to him in a shutdown role? Similar body shapes, and could hurt Smith going the other way.

[DV8 2,271]

4 hours ago, samcantstandya said:

I like the way u think. I'd like 2 c Smith in.

Actually, we may need JSmith or other, I'm concerned about Burgoyne.  Or JK-H

And Frawley might take TMc, I suspect.   Maybe we need one more tall up front in TSmith to free up the Weide.  One has to drag Frawley high.

4 hours ago, monoccular said:

Agree the only change that may be considered could be JKH for Spartacus, though I don''t really think so.

AND since you raise the issue, how about RDB sitting with his old arch rival, Murray Weideman cheering on young Sam to even greater heights. ?

It was him was it, I was wondering about that. ?

[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Agree

Kent is really the only one to 'come back' and JKH is boderline but the rest don't seem to be putting genuine pressure on for spots, will be a matter of support for injuries

Spargo would be first out in my mind, a few nice kicks for goal assists but not much else really, and the miss from 30m out (shank kick out on full) was disappointing, that should be his bread and butter

Probably no change 

Not the Only one JK-H... Vince, as run with?

I want Burgoyne blanketed.

[DV8 2,271]

25 minutes ago, 000 said:

Wouldn't know who to drop. 

Bernie Vince could be an in with his experience and possibly last games. He has a beautiful kick and we saw what experience can give with the example of Jordan.

Another being Joel Smith who brings a little x-factor with his marking and flexibility to play back and forward,  though the step up with final pressure may be too much to expect. 

Jay Kennedy-Harris for his pressure acts, run and ability to be in contest.

We have some players who can cover if there are injuries.

Who are you concern players, we need to cover ?

[kev martin 8,804]

13 minutes ago, DV8 said:

Who are you concern players, we need to cover ?

I looked at their list and think they have 10 players who we should close down.

Sicily, Impey, Burgoyne, O'mera, Mitchell, Isac Smith, Gunston, Breust, Puopolo and Roughhead.

 

 

Edited September 8, 2018 by 000

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,132]

37 minutes ago, 000 said:

 

Bernie Vince could be an in with his experience and possibly last games. He has a beautiful kick and we saw what experience can give with the example of Jordan.

 

We need more mobility if anything at all against Hawthorn. Bernie cant run any more. 

[Pates 9,536]

Very likely no change, though Tyson butchered the ball as per normal and Spargo although not having a mare was for me not very influential. 

If Kent were to cleared fit I would potentially look at bringing him in for one of them. 

It is interesting to consider who would come out if Lever and Hogan were fit to play. Tough call!

[CityDee 738]

Who’s home game is it? 

 

[rpfc 27,384]

Look, this is brutal, but I would love to release Fritsch up the ground. Smith or Hunt in for Spargo...

Yeah, I don’t like it but footy is tough.

[DV8 2,271]

8 minutes ago, 000 said:

I looked at their list and think they have 10 players who we should close down.

Sicily, Impey, Burgoyne, O'mera, Mitchell, Isac Smith, Gunston, Breust, Puopolo and Roughhead.

 

 

They're a good side. 

Under the radar,,,,  the Hawks this year.