What is the point?

[jshc__ 52]

I'm gonna be upfront and say if you're one of the optimists on here, this post isn't for you.

Also if you're not into kinda long rambly posts that have strong pessimistic undertones, this post isn't for you.

Honestly, I don't think many are going to appreciate this post at all, but I need to vent my frustrations somewhere, and as long time reader of the forum thought it was bout time I joined in!

 

I really think I have had enough from this club. 18 years of support, which I realise pales in comparison to the years of garbage some of you have had to put with, but nevertheless, it has been 18 years of sadness, anger, being mocked at school, but most crucially disappointing, gut-wrenching losses such as today.  I thought about listing off a history of the shocking, demoralising losses I have either personally witnessed or simply just remembered as particularly painful, but it really boils down to the fact pouring my heart and soul into this club is no longer worth it. Attending on regular basis with my father from 2007 to 2014 then after that on my own. This year I have attended every game in Victoria bar 2, and I easily think this has been the most torturous year, all the years of drubbings don't compare to the heartache I have gone through (so far) in 2018.

I just don't see how it's worth it anymore, the cycle of false hope followed by awful loss that brings all the false hopes back to earth. It's terrible. I'm frustrated towards my mum and sister and it's not fair, but I don't know how to get out of this abusive relationship. It's clear from the mental toughness of the current crop the players will not lead us to the promised land, and maybe if we do have the list to lead us to a flag, we can't seem to get the best 22 on the park at any one time. I at wits end and really wish I could see the future, to know whether this cycle of pain will lead to a flag, or even finals success. ANYTHING.

I need assistance on how to get through this because even though I've promised to not watch our final 2 matches, I don't what 2019 will bring.

Again I'm incredibly sorry for the rant, needed to finally write my feelings down somewhere.

 

 

[Beetle 4,280]

Speaking from 42 years of experience...it’s pretty easy....just keep drinking harder.

[spirit of norm smith 12,886]

Yes after 43 years of nothing in a way of glory, it is disappointing, gut wrenching, frustrating, soul destroying 

but it’s in your red and blue blood. We are the survivors. Players and coaches come and go for love and money 

but we stick to it. Resilience  =  MFC supporters

[jshc__ 52]

4 minutes ago, Beetle said:

Speaking from 42 years of experience...it’s pretty easy....just keep drinking harder.

Not a strategy I have tried thus far - might have to start

[Big Demon 197]

22 minutes ago, jshc__ said:

I'm gonna be upfront and say if you're one of the optimists on here, this post isn't for you.

Also if you're not into kinda long rambly posts that have strong pessimistic undertones, this post isn't for you.

Honestly, I don't think many are going to appreciate this post at all, but I need to vent my frustrations somewhere, and as long time reader of the forum thought it was bout time I joined in!

 

I really think I have had enough from this club. 18 years of support, which I realise pales in comparison to the years of garbage some of you have had to put with, but nevertheless, it has been 18 years of sadness, anger, being mocked at school, but most crucially disappointing, gut-wrenching losses such as today.  I thought about listing off a history of the shocking, demoralising losses I have either personally witnessed or simply just remembered as particularly painful, but it really boils down to the fact pouring my heart and soul into this club is no longer worth it. Attending on regular basis with my father from 2007 to 2014 then after that on my own. This year I have attended every game in Victoria bar 2, and I easily think this has been the most torturous year, all the years of drubbings don't compare to the heartache I have gone through (so far) in 2018.

I just don't see how it's worth it anymore, the cycle of false hope followed by awful loss that brings all the false hopes back to earth. It's terrible. I'm frustrated towards my mum and sister and it's not fair, but I don't know how to get out of this abusive relationship. It's clear from the mental toughness of the current crop the players will not lead us to the promised land, and maybe if we do have the list to lead us to a flag, we can't seem to get the best 22 on the park at any one time. I at wits end and really wish I could see the future, to know whether this cycle of pain will lead to a flag, or even finals success. ANYTHING.

I need assistance on how to get through this because even though I've promised to not watch our final 2 matches, I don't what 2019 will bring.

Again I'm incredibly sorry for the rant, needed to finally write my feelings down somewhere.

 

 

You should give the Hawks a go pal they are generally thereabouts, no idea where their forum is but go find it and don’t let the Demonland door hit you on the ass on the way out.

 

[layzie 28,687]

Welcome! Wish it was under better circumstances.

I’ve asked myself those very questions countless times and honestly there is no clear answer. Supporting this club isn’t for the faint hearted. Personally I’m at this point where I’ve forgotten about the aspirations of winning a flag, breaking this finals drought has become a flag drought in itself and as pathetic as that sounds it is this burden that just has to be lifted or we’ll never be free.

We’re waiting for this big break and it doesn’t appear to be coming. It’s extremely difficult to take.

What is the point of it all? I don’t know to be honest. We rock up to the G for yet another big test and flounder. And you never seem to get used to it either. But quitting isn’t an option. Even if I wanted to.

[jshc__ 52]

Evidently I didn't make clear enough the absolute devotion and love I have poured into this club throughout my life. 

To suggest I jump ship is frankly a little insulting, especially to scum like Hawthorn. All I wanted was to lay my despondency on the table, off my chest where it has been building for the last 20 weeks.

[Wolfturdo 123]

5 minutes ago, Big Demon said:

You should give the Hawks a go pal they are generally thereabouts, no idea where their forum is but go find it and don’t let the Demonland door hit you on the ass on the way out.

 

Get stuffed 

[jshc__ 52]

Just now, layzie said:

What is the point of it all? I don’t know to be honest. We rock up to the G for yet another big test and flounder. And you never seem to get used to it either. But quitting isn’t an option. Even if I wanted to.

 

This sums it up beautifully, thank you. Hopefully 2019 brings some joy.

[640MD 2,789]

I know how you feel. Just been doing it longer. It’s like a very bad habit. Does not do you any good but you keep coming back. MFCSS  should kick in hard now for the last 2 games,   Don’t need to go to the finals now.  I saw enough today. 2 games for the year another donation to the club in 2019

[Harbinger43 87]

Yep we are all [censored] off.  But if you feel this way in 14 days time, then fine.   But we have a fortnight during which this can swing wildly.     Hang in there !!!!     Order what you need to get through to be delivered in 14 days time!!!!!  Hang tough.    Could still be the tide of a lifetime 

[In Harmes Way 7,492]

4 minutes ago, jshc__ said:

Evidently I didn't make clear enough the absolute devotion and love I have poured into this club throughout my life. 

To suggest I jump ship is frankly a little insulting, especially to scum like Hawthorn. All I wanted was to lay my despondency on the table, off my chest where it has been building for the last 20 weeks.

I wasn’t too despondent when we beat the crowd by 91 points in the Alice. I’m pretty sure that was less than 20 weeks ago.

[jshc__ 52]

1 minute ago, small but forward said:

I wasn’t too despondent when we beat the crowd by 91 points in the Alice. I’m pretty sure that was less than 20 weeks ago.

I think it's those highs this year which have made our failures all the more painful, but yes that was a damn good Sunday afternoon.

[chook fowler 18,211]

The psychologists would call it learned helplessness.

[KLV 1,626]

35 minutes ago, jshc__ said:

I'm gonna be upfront and say if you're one of the optimists on here, this post isn't for you.

Also if you're not into kinda long rambly posts that have strong pessimistic undertones, this post isn't for you.

Honestly, I don't think many are going to appreciate this post at all, but I need to vent my frustrations somewhere, and as long time reader of the forum thought it was bout time I joined in!

 

I really think I have had enough from this club. 18 years of support, which I realise pales in comparison to the years of garbage some of you have had to put with, but nevertheless, it has been 18 years of sadness, anger, being mocked at school, but most crucially disappointing, gut-wrenching losses such as today.  I thought about listing off a history of the shocking, demoralising losses I have either personally witnessed or simply just remembered as particularly painful, but it really boils down to the fact pouring my heart and soul into this club is no longer worth it. Attending on regular basis with my father from 2007 to 2014 then after that on my own. This year I have attended every game in Victoria bar 2, and I easily think this has been the most torturous year, all the years of drubbings don't compare to the heartache I have gone through (so far) in 2018.

I just don't see how it's worth it anymore, the cycle of false hope followed by awful loss that brings all the false hopes back to earth. It's terrible. I'm frustrated towards my mum and sister and it's not fair, but I don't know how to get out of this abusive relationship. It's clear from the mental toughness of the current crop the players will not lead us to the promised land, and maybe if we do have the list to lead us to a flag, we can't seem to get the best 22 on the park at any one time. I at wits end and really wish I could see the future, to know whether this cycle of pain will lead to a flag, or even finals success. ANYTHING.

I need assistance on how to get through this because even though I've promised to not watch our final 2 matches, I don't what 2019 will bring.

Again I'm incredibly sorry for the rant, needed to finally write my feelings down somewhere.

 

 

It’s all just so predictable, isn’t it? A big game with so much riding on it and we come out looking second rate. I left the ground thinking of tuning the rest of the season out. And the finals consisting of usuals in Geelong, hawthorn, Sydney and wce holds no interest for me.

[WERRIDEE 5,207]

Just now, jshc__ said:

I think it's those highs this year which have made our failures all the more painful, but yes that was a damn good Sunday afternoon.

The point is there is always next week. We will beat West Coast hopefully we won't have list cloggers in the side like Hunt, Pedo and JKH which should make us a better team especially with the inclusions of Melksham and Hibberd.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

What's the point?  You love the club my friend.

I've found over the years, and this is just from my own experience, is getting upset/angry/frustrated etc only makes me feel worse for longer.  If I take a few steps back and look at the game a little more objectively, post a little and then move on, I find by the next morning it doesn't hurt nearly as much and I'm ready to focus on the next game.  Plus, some here absolutely lose the plot and it makes me feel better knowing I don't make that much of a fool of myself after a loss.

That doesn't mean that losing doesn't hurt and, like everyone here, I've poured my heart and soul into the club for over 30 years.  But I'll keep coming back and continue to keep the faith in my team because that's all I can do.  Cheers.

[Fork 'em 6,507]

The club culture is a disgrace.
I don't know what it is, but there is something rotten down there and it's deeply ingrained.
I just find the club an embarrassment these days.
 

 

 

Edited August 12, 2018 by Fork 'em

[Beetle 4,280]

19 minutes ago, jshc__ said:

Not a strategy I have tried thus far - might have to start

It kills me following this mob mate but I’ll never waver.

The day will come when it will all be worth it....these struggles will just make that moment even sweeter. 

Stick with us...maintain your integrity. 

I’ll never follow another team...so until then, for now, I’ll have another glass of vino..

[640MD 2,789]

A poor start but not disastrous 2 shite quarters.  Then they decide to have a go, 

do the players ever get angry? Or is it a case of just putting your hand out each and every week ?

[bobby1554 1,132]

It’s a journey Jshc. Look at it this way - we are the only team in the competition to have increased number of wins every year since 2013 (regular season). That to me shows improvement. We are not far off, hang in there.

[titan_uranus 22,284]

This is the fourth close loss to a finals contender, and each time I sit back and say "gee we were terrible in parts but we only lost by [insert sub-10 point margin]". Problem is we don't ever seem to fix those bad bits and so the next time we get a crack, we get the exact same result.

Surely, at some point, something's going to give and we're going to get it right and win one of these games.

Surely?

[jshc__ 52]

2 minutes ago, bobby1554 said:

we are the only team in the competition to have increased number of wins every year since 2013 (regular season). That to me shows

 

Interesting, but very important stat, something to keep in mind.

[At the break of Gawn 3,486]

I’m in Europe at the moment on my honeymoon and I actually wish in some twisted way we were like Melbourne of 2008-2009 where I’d check to see if we’ve won any games at the end of my holiday. Instead I got up at 7:20am to follow the scores and end up feeling deflated.

Giving hope and then tearing it away with disappointing losses is actually a lot harder to stomach.

[picket fence 15,098]

64 I Can very vaguely remember the high metal ornate fence at the Grand Final

Early 70 ts having idols such as Paul Rowlands, Noel Leary Hassa Mann, Paul Callery hey even John Tilbrook! Greg Parke, Ross Dillon, Stan Alves , Greg Wells, hell even Ray Carr could play...late 7Os Tom Flower should have played more games. Ross Brewer, Graeme Osborne ( a personal fav)

80 Rob Rob and emergence of Lyon, Grinter, Stretch, Bailey, Stynes, Wight, et al

Well I could go on but suffice to say

Mate.. welcome to the cruise!!  

Edited August 12, 2018 by picket fence