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This thread hasnt been as silly as i thought it would be, we had the structures wrong this week with pedo playing back.

Dont want to make changes for the sake of changes so in saying that Hunt didnt finish the game. So easy one is hibberd for hunt. Spargo and garlett really struggled today. Id say spargo for melksham. Once pedo moved forward we were way to slow, his relief ruck work is barely competitive anymore. Weids rucking is better than pedos and tmacs, but not offering enough elsewhere yet. I feel if he were to com in it would be for vandenburg. But with gawn struggling with a minor calf injury may be the option. Pedo was brought in as a back so would wagner be next off the bench?

 

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Hunt

Spargo

Pedo

 

Ins

Hibberd

Melksham

Wagner?

 

In danger

Could make a case for garlett out and kent in. Vandenburg really struggled and could make a case for bugg or Hannan but Hannan has been underwhelming and disappears for large portions of the game. We all know what bugg will bring but also know what bugg will bring.

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5 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Do they still arrive to the game in their tow-trucks Mr Fence?

When I played against Ashy it was kernuckle dusters at 10 paces they were a tough unit!

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FB: Jetta  Oscar  Hibberd
HB: Pedersen Frost  Salem
C; Jones  Oliver   Fritsch
HF: Spargo  T Mc  Petracca
FF: Vanders Weids   Hannan/Kent
Foll: Gawn Harmes  Brayshaw
Int: Lewis  JKH  Tyson Melksham

Out: Garlett, Hunt, Hogan, ANB
In: Melksham, Hibberd, Weideman, Hannan/Kent

Spargo made 2 types of error: 1 - couldn't kick it far enough, failing to make the distance or giving it off. 2 - couldn't hold his tackles. I'm happy to live with both whilst he brings a good work rate, clean skills and smarts. He'll get stronger over the summer and be finishing off his work better.

Garlett make 1 type of error over and over again - being soft as butter. That has to go. Goodbye.

ANB probably won't get dropped. More likely to see Spargs miss or Hannan not come in. But ANB has botched his disposals over and over again and it's time to say we'll do without it. He runs all day and keeps having a go but at some stage that's just not enough and he isn't getting better.

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IN: Hibberd, Melksham, Kent, Hannan

OUT: JKH, Hunt, Pedo, Spargo

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8 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

IN: Hibberd, Melksham, Kent, Hannan

OUT: JKH, Hunt, Pedo, Spargo

Yep probably right Jeffy would want to have a "Day Out" next week!

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I was sure Goodwin said last week in his post match presser that Hunt wasn’t ready. Yet he played today and was absolutely cooked. We basically went in with two unfit players in Gawn and Hunt. 

Gawn you of course play, on half a leg he is still better than anyone else we have. But Hunt? Really? He was in shocking form pre injury, and nothing has changed. 

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1 minute ago, Jaded said:

I was sure Goodwin said last week in his post match presser that Hunt wasn’t ready. Yet he played today and was absolutely cooked. We basically went in with two unfit players in Gawn and Hunt. 

Gawn you of course play, on half a leg he is still better than anyone else we have. But Hunt? Really? He was in shocking form pre injury, and nothing has changed. 

Bizarre selection wasn;t it?

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I think i have one.

Out

Night out at injured team mates engagement party.

In

Professional attitude and staying in.

(I dont know all the details, perhaps they went had dinner a couple of lemon squashes and went home, but not the best preparation)

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35 minutes ago, rjay said:

I'm not sure Hibberd is right to go yet.

I hope we don't rush him in because on the off chance we make finals he is vital to us putting up some kind of a show.

Right now, as a strategic decision but also a business one, we need to prioritise making the finals over winning a final.

We need the monkey off the back. Missing the finals this year does not help us one bit for 2019, but making them and realising we're capable of doing it does.

So, if Hibberd is borderline fit, we roll the dice and play him.

2 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Bizarre selection wasn;t it?

It was a risk. It clearly didn't pay off.

Unfortunately we've taken a lot of selection risks this year which have flopped. This is largely due to injuries testing what is quite poor depth (e.g. we played Maynard in Round 1 but wouldn't have needed to if Viney was fit, again today we played Hunt but wouldn't have needed to if Hibberd was fit).

At least we took a risk in favour of a player who can change a game if it works (e.g. Hunt) rather than a player who can't help us even at his best (e.g. Maynard in Round 1).

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1 minute ago, titan_uranus said:

Right now, as a strategic decision but also a business one, we need to prioritise making the finals over winning a final.

We need the monkey off the back. Missing the finals this year does not help us one bit for 2019, but making them and realising we're capable of doing it does.

So, if Hibberd is borderline fit, we roll the dice and play him.

It was a risk. It clearly didn't pay off.

Unfortunately we've taken a lot of selection risks this year which have flopped. This is largely due to injuries testing what is quite poor depth (e.g. we played Maynard in Round 1 but wouldn't have needed to if Viney was fit, again today we played Hunt but wouldn't have needed to if Hibberd was fit).

At least we took a risk in favour of a player who can change a game if it works (e.g. Hunt) rather than a player who can't help us even at his best (e.g. Maynard in Round 1).

Yeah you are right . . . we are thin after player 18 i recon. 

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37 minutes ago, scarlett said:

This thread hasnt been as silly as i thought it would be, we had the structures wrong this week with pedo playing back.

Dont want to make changes for the sake of changes so in saying that Hunt didnt finish the game. So easy one is hibberd for hunt. Spargo and garlett really struggled today. Id say spargo for melksham. Once pedo moved forward we were way to slow, his relief ruck work is barely competitive anymore. Weids rucking is better than pedos and tmacs, but not offering enough elsewhere yet. I feel if he were to com in it would be for vandenburg. But with gawn struggling with a minor calf injury may be the option. Pedo was brought in as a back so would wagner be next off the bench?

 

Outs

Hunt

Spargo

Pedo

 

Ins

Hibberd

Melksham

Wagner?

 

In danger

Could make a case for garlett out and kent in. Vandenburg really struggled and could make a case for bugg or Hannan but Hannan has been underwhelming and disappears for large portions of the game. We all know what bugg will bring but also know what bugg will bring.

Does it really matter. Other than Viney and Hibberd the rest of possible ins are not much better than the 6 or so we want out. I believe we have only 15 AFL players and the rest just good , ordinary VFL players. If our top 15 don't play at their best then we are done like today.

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We lost to a beat up ageing Swans team, the same team that lost to Gold Coast, who's coach took us to school in their own back half. 

Every team that is half decent have played 2 spares behind the ball and us as the dumb mike hunts we are just continually keep kicking it down their throats.

Our coaches continually keep sending out the same [censored] up instructions, its has a really deflating effect on the team and supporters at the ground.

That along with our horrific Goalkicking absolutely destroyed us, when the pressure and expectation is on we go to water, we dont have the mental capabilities to deal with the hype.

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26 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Right now, as a strategic decision but also a business one, we need to prioritise making the finals over winning a final.

We need the monkey off the back. Missing the finals this year does not help us one bit for 2019, but making them and realising we're capable of doing it does.

So, if Hibberd is borderline fit, we roll the dice and play him.

We rolled the dice on a couple today 'titan' and took in insurance.

It didn't & doesn't work...

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2 minutes ago, rjay said:

We rolled the dice on a couple today 'titan' and took in insurance.

It didn't & doesn't work...

I'm prepared to roll the dice on A-grade talent to try to make the finals than save the A-grade talent and risk missing the finals altogether so that we can keep playing VFL-level players in their place.

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40 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I was sure Goodwin said last week in his post match presser that Hunt wasn’t ready. Yet he played today and was absolutely cooked. We basically went in with two unfit players in Gawn and Hunt. 

Gawn you of course play, on half a leg he is still better than anyone else we have. But Hunt? Really? He was in shocking form pre injury, and nothing has changed. 

Posted on another thread that I spoke to Hunt at last week's game.and he told me his VFL form was rusty. I was staggered to see him selected off the back of one rusty game at Casey.  Also he has been coached out of form. He now second guesses everything he does and no longer backs himself and plays on instinct  

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9 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I'm prepared to roll the dice on A-grade talent to try to make the finals than save the A-grade talent and risk missing the finals altogether so that we can keep playing VFL-level players in their place.

If Hibberd needs another week, he needs it.

A thigh will go early if he's not a 100%, then we are one down. Hardly the way to win a game.

He may well be chasing that injury for the rest of his career if he does further damage.

I get players playing sore or not at 100% but something like this is not smart.

Similar to Viney last year, it just screws things up down the track.

We went top heavy today to cover for Max (Pedders) in case he went down. We were already top heavy down back.

We took in Hunt when Goodwin said last weekend he needed at least another game. Wagner should have played.

Hogan has been playing sore.

We've been carrying Spargo for a while and against the Swans he was always going to come unstuck. Vince would have been handy on McVeigh...or Lloyd.

I think selection has been pretty average most of this year. It has cost us games.

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1 minute ago, rjay said:

If Hibberd needs another week, he needs it.

A thigh will go early if he's not a 100%, then we are one down. Hardly the way to win a game.

He may well be chasing that injury for the rest of his career if he does further damage.

I get players playing sore or not at 100% but something like this is not smart.

Similar to Viney last year, it just screws things up down the track.

We went top heavy today to cover for Max (Pedders) in case he went down. We were already top heavy down back.

We took in Hunt when Goodwin said last weekend he needed at least another game. Wagner should have played.

Hogan has been playing sore.

We've been carrying Spargo for a while and against the Swans he was always going to come unstuck. Vince would have been handy on McVeigh...or Lloyd.

I think selection has been pretty average most of this year. It has cost us games.

If he's not fit enough, we won't play him, don't disagree with you there.

Initially I thought you were advocating for resting him to "save" him for finals if we make it, which I did not agree with.

Ultimately if he and Melksham are fit enough to play, they come straight back. If they're not, then we don't play them. But we don't hold either of them back in an effort to maximise our chance of winning a final.

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Hunt looks a totally different player , no zip at all.

Spargo needs another preseason to match it with the big boys.

Out Hunt, Spargo

In Hibberd , Melksham

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3 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Hunt looks a totally different player , no zip at all.

Spargo needs another preseason to match it with the big boys.

Out Hunt, Spargo

In Hibberd , Melksham

If that does not happen we don't have a prayer DZ.

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Out: Pedo, AVB, Spargo & Hunt

In: Hibberd, Kent, Hannan and Melksham 

B:   Jetta  Frost  Hibberd

HB: Lewis Omac Salem

C.  Harmes Oliver Kent

HF: Trac    TMac  Melksham 

F: Garlett   Hogan Fritsch

R: Gawn, Brayshaw & Tyson

I/C: Jones, Hannan, JKH & ANB

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3 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Hunt looks a totally different player , no zip at all.

Spargo needs another preseason to match it with the big boys.

Out Hunt, Spargo

In Hibberd , Melksham

Hunt looked to have elite speed last year.

Cannot put space or close down anyone now. Until he finds that, he is useless. 

Spargo actually needs  rest cause he was a liability  today. 

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11 minutes ago, jacey said:

Hunt looked to have elite speed last year.

Cannot put space or close down anyone now. Until he finds that, he is useless. 

Spargo actually needs  rest cause he was a liability  today. 

Hunt had a back injury all pre-season. He's now injured his foot twice this season also. The back injury and pre-season issues have obviously effected his fitness and he's lost confidence in himself as a result. It's a real shame as he was one of our best players in 2017 and looked set to become an All Australian HBF this year. I still have faith he'll come good, but he needs to take time to get his body right and use that pace with full confidence again.

Spargo looks cooked. I rate him and think he's a long term player for us, but he looks spent this past few weeks and should probably be out of the team for someone like Kent or Bugg.

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