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56 minutes ago, DV8 said:

I think your right  'hw',  Re the 70's and 80's... possibly not much before that...  and maybe not so since the mid noughties.

 

Skilled on both sides seemed to take a backward step, maybe around the advent of the flood...?

And also,  going full time Pro,  they are inside the club/gym for so much time,  do they have less free time.?

Having said what I said, there probably has always been the motivated individual and the pack animal. Back in the 1970s, I remember watching the Hawks do some of their pre-season down at a local athletics track and the difference in attitude between individual and team was marked. 

Most players including premiership players would not start their warm-up until the fitness guy turned up and blew his whistle. This was the complete opposite to the attitude of athletes in training who started their warm-ups without needing to be told. At the same time, there were a minority of players such as Michael Tuck who were out running laps without anyone telling them to do so. 

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3 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Having said what I said, there probably has always been the motivated individual and the pack animal. Back in the 1970s, I remember watching the Hawks do some of their pre-season down at a local athletics track and the difference in attitude between individual and team was marked. 

Most players including premiership players would not start their warm-up until the fitness guy turned up and blew his whistle. This was the complete opposite to the attitude of athletes in training who started their warm-ups without needing to be told. At the same time, there were a minority of players such as Michael Tuck who were out running laps without anyone telling them to do so. 

Yep, I guess early sixties to late sixties things were starting to change, regarding skills.    Including seeing that best-kick show, on WOSport.

Barassi and other coaches demanded excellence...  more and more,  I guess money was starting to whisper into players ears.   And with more money, footy started to rise as a payed occupation.

 

In that WOS footy show, they highlighted Both sides of the body, Re skills.  

Supreme fitness and dual sided skills were becoming the weapons of choice.

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18 minutes ago, DV8 said:

Yep, I guess early sixties to late sixties things were starting to change, regarding skills.    Including seeing that best-kick show, on WOSport.

Barassi and other coaches demanded excellence...  more and more,  I guess money was starting to whisper into players ears.   And with more money, footy started to rise as a payed occupation.

 

In that WOS footy show, they highlighted Both sides of the body, Re skills.  

Supreme fitness and dual sided skills were becoming the weapons of choice.

Yep spot on. 

We knew Barassi demanded supreme fitness when he went to the Blues and North.  

At North, Brian Dixon preceded Barass. Last year, a past North player told me that despite Dixon's poor coaching record, he was the first coach to get the side fit. He went about transforming attitudes and behaviour on the training track.  Although he got little credit, the past player told be that this was important foundation to the successful Barassi years. 

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2 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

Typical bully.

 

 

I was right.

 

If you are going to quote someone use their word not yours. I did not say typical bully. If you chose to read posts you may find the answer therin and not need to ask someone to confirm what has been clearly written in a post only just above. You may read my posts and you may comment on my posts but do not put in things which I have not said. Furthermore as a very recent poster you may find others suspicious of your motives for being here and saying unusual things. I suggested that I thought you a troll or an idiot, that is unfair and I am sorry. But I do think you are trolling. If you are suggesting I am a bully I suggest you re read our conversation and perhaps you may understand my attitude. I don't think I will bother to reply to you again. Cheers

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1 hour ago, hemingway said:

At North, Brian Dixon preceded Barass.

ah, yeah... I'd forgotten that. a vague memory of it.

 

1 hour ago, hemingway said:

Last year, a past North player told me that despite Dixon's poor coaching record, he was the first coach to get the side fit. He went about transforming attitudes and behaviour on the training track.

 

Just following the  'Kennedy's commando's',  of the early 60's.

 

" Tactically,  he was considered by some - most notably, Geelong coach Bob Davis  -  as crude.  

When he took over as coach of Hawthorn in 1960, his strategy was to radically increase the physical fitness of his players and then up the tempo of the game so that opposition teams were worn out. "

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/a-mans-man-and-coachs-coach-20120928-26r4y.html

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3 hours ago, ManDee said:

If you are going to quote someone use their word not yours. I did not say typical bully. If you chose to read posts you may find the answer therin and not need to ask someone to confirm what has been clearly written in a post only just above. You may read my posts and you may comment on my posts but do not put in things which I have not said. Furthermore as a very recent poster you may find others suspicious of your motives for being here and saying unusual things. I suggested that I thought you a troll or an idiot, that is unfair and I am sorry. But I do think you are trolling. If you are suggesting I am a bully I suggest you re read our conversation and perhaps you may understand my attitude. I don't think I will bother to reply to you again. Cheers

Passive aggressive bully. Thanks for giving me permission to read and comment on your posts. Cheers

 

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2 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

 

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Been saying it all along. Tom Morris is a [censored] little grub! Club needs to call him out big time.

What i see there is two blokes who have copped a bit of [censored] over yhis year and its almodt like they're saying "we got each other's back"...

Well done McCartney and well done Goodwin.

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39 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Been saying it all along. Tom Morris is a [censored] little grub! Club needs to call him out big time.

What i see there is two blokes who have copped a bit of [censored] over yhis year and its almodt like they're saying "we got each other's back"...

Well done McCartney and well done Goodwin.

My biggest concern in that clip ....the lack of apparent love/care/mateship for Jeffy?

Like to see the boys, and Goody, get around him a bit more.

A few more indigenous players wouldn't hurt either.  Skills/finish are usually sublime.  Tim Kelly would be awesome if he wasn't home sick.

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1 minute ago, Rusty Nails said:

My biggest concern in that clip ....the lack of apparent love/care/mateship for Jeffy?

Like to see the boys, and Goody, get around him a bit more.

A few more indigenous players wouldn't hurt either.  Skills/finish are usually sublime.  Tim Kelly would be awesome if he wasn't home sick.

Jeffy was the first player Goody went to RN when the siren blew and gave him a massive cuddle, as if to say “what a tackle Jeffy” late in the game.

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1 minute ago, Rusty Nails said:

My biggest concern in that clip ....the lack of apparent love/care/mateship for Jeffy?

Like to see the boys, and Goody, get around him a bit more.

 

This good enough?  :cool:

 

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Jeffy was the first player Goody went to RN when the siren blew and gave him a massive cuddle, as if to say “what a tackle Jeffy” late in the game.

Oh [censored]... ok the other boys then! ?

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fwiw, on Footy Classified last week Caroline Wilson mentioned in passing there was an issue between Macca and Jennings.  She didn't elaborate but her tone suggested it wasn't serious or lasting.

Suspect Morris made it a mountain out of a molehill.  As Pert said, challenging dialogue in coaches meetings is healthy.

Morris is probably bitter for being kicked off the mfc podcast last year after going to press with some selection changes ahead of official announcement.

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8 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

fwiw, on Footy Classified last week Caroline Wilson mentioned in passing there was an issue between Macca and Jennings.  She didn't elaborate but her tone suggested it wasn't serious or lasting.

Suspect Morris made it a mountain out of a molehill.  As Pert said, challenging dialogue in coaches meetings is healthy.

Morris is probably bitter for being kicked off the mfc podcast last year after going to press with some selection changes ahead of official announcement.

He short armed it and didn’t turn up to speak to Goody face to face on the podcast after his statement about Goody, then “quit” the podcast that week. Weak as ....

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10 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

He short armed it and didn’t turn up to speak to Goody face to face on the podcast after his statement about Goody, then “quit” the podcast that week. Weak as ....

Is this actually legit?

If so weak as [censored] by the little grub.

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49 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Is this actually legit?

If so weak as [censored] by the little grub.

I don't think it is correct as Goodwin wasn't on the inside mfc podcast after round 1 last year.

As I recall it Morris was solidly 'pushed' he didn't 'quit'.  Either way he put his work brownie points before the privileged access position at a football club.  Poor form to abuse a privilege like that.  Deserved what he got.

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1 hour ago, Rusty Nails said:

My biggest concern in that clip ....the lack of apparent love/care/mateship for Jeffy?

Like to see the boys, and Goody, get around him a bit more.

A few more indigenous players wouldn't hurt either.  Skills/finish are usually sublime.  Tim Kelly would be awesome if he wasn't home sick.

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1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

As Pert said, challenging dialogue in coaches meetings is healthy.

Absolutely, if we had all yes men we would be in a world of trouble.

So long as at they present a united front to the players...

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13 minutes ago, rjay said:

Absolutely, if we had all yes men we would be in a world of trouble.

So long as at they present a united front to the players...

If two coaches always agree then one of them is redundant. If they always disagree both are redundant - Apologies to Ezra Pound

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1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Is this actually legit?

If so weak as [censored] by the little grub.

Yeap. He was on the podcast and dropped the Goody “story”, Goody was on the next week... Morris wasn’t on it and then next ep it was said he decided to focus on his media role and not have a conflict with the podcast... pushed, quit or mutual decision he had a chance to discuss his story with Goody and didn’t.

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2 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Jeffy was the first player Goody went to RN when the siren blew and gave him a massive cuddle, as if to say “what a tackle Jeffy” late in the game.

Correct, i was watching very closely to see who did what after the final siren.

Seemed all to be very genuine with every coach and player embracing.

I noticed a destinct tinker in our game style to more run, carry and link with hand ball. Ground ball differencial in the F50 was of the charts.

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