Petracca in a rut?

[bobby1554 1,132]

I think some of you may be judging Christian on what you "think" he should be as opposed to what he is delivering. He is on target to better his 2017 stats in most areas, especially 1% ers, other than goals kicked (that would be because of the different role he is playing this year). Also, don't forget he missed a year with an ACL. And please don't compare him with DeGoey, one is a fine young man, the other a f....wit.

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6 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

That’s my point. His weight does not necessarily stop him from having a tank  - as per Wines. I think Petracca’s problem is between his ears. He needs a serious wake up call now, or he’ll always be that guy who threatens to have a brake out game - and this blog can not afford another one of those.

I agree that he needs a wake up call. But I will also say if he lost some weight it'd be easier for him to build a tank, I know it is for me!

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If not Casey, then what about half back for the next month? 

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41 minutes ago, bobby1554 said:

I think some of you may be judging Christian on what you "think" he should be as opposed to what he is delivering. He is on target to better his 2017 stats in most areas, especially 1% ers, other than goals kicked (that would be because of the different role he is playing this year). Also, don't forget he missed a year with an ACL. And please don't compare him with DeGoey, one is a fine young man, the other a f....wit.

Interesting comments with a positive spin.

I suspect Petracca is always going to be judged against the high expectations that people have of him. We may have to lower those expectations and see his future a little differently. 

He strikes me as a footballer that will never have high disposal count, unless he spends his time in the midfield, and even then he seems more of a burst type of player than someone who will run all day. Whatever the reason, he does appear to tire quickly and easily, more so than others. This means that he is not fit enough, restricted due to injury or does not extend himself.  Watts is very similar. Jack after a brief burst is always seen with his hands on his knees sucking in air. Unlike Watts,  Petracca is prepared to commit himself to the contest, can break tackles and have an impact on the game. However, the game has reached the point where you can't afford to have a player who can't run for sustained periods of time.

So Christian has some work to do.

Bobby, getting back to your point, it would be interesting to see his 2017 and 2018 stats in order to form an objective opinion.

Are his stats in 2017 very good, good, satisfactory or poor ? He may be on target to better his 2017 stats this season, but by how much and is the improvement satisfactory given the interpretation of the 2017 numbers ?

 

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https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/C/Christian_Petracca.html

Hi Ernest, table above. Averaged around 19 possessions a game in 2017

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Thanks bobby1554 - Trac looks on target to beat his disposal count this year but is a bit behind with goals. I think that we are all waiting for him to break a game open and kick a lot of goals and rack up big numbers of possessions. Is he carrying a niggle??

Go for it Trac!!! 

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With his undoubted talent, Tracc has the ability to be a game breaker, but 50 games in we are still waiting.  If he could consistently deliver on his potential it would be huge for our footy club, but I'm not convinced that the work-rate is there, right now.  I expect that he arrived at this point in his career on talent alone, but that's not sustainable in today's game.   All dessert and no dinner is not good enough.

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Totally off topic but it's fact that in 2014 GWS tried to trade picks 4 and 7 to St Kilda for pick 1 in order to secure Petracca. GWS were so desperate for him pre draft.

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5 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Totally off topic but it's fact that in 2014 GWS tried to trade picks 4 and 7 to St Kilda for pick 1 in order to secure Petracca. GWS were so desperate for him pre draft.

Who did they get in his stead?

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2 hours ago, timbo said:

Who did they get in his stead?

Not a great draft for GWS - Jarrod Pickett at 4, now with Carlton, Caleb Marchbank at 7, now with Carlton, Paul Ahern at 6, now with North.

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1 hour ago, bobby1554 said:

Not a great draft for GWS - Jarrod Pickett at 4, now with Carlton, Caleb Marchbank at 7, now with Carlton, Paul Ahern at 6, now with North.

And St Kilda retained the No. 1 draft pick for Paddy McCartin.

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3 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Totally off topic but it's fact that in 2014 GWS tried to trade picks 4 and 7 to St Kilda for pick 1 in order to secure Petracca. GWS were so desperate for him pre draft.

FWIW, I have been told they were trading up to get Brayshaw. 

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12 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

FWIW, I have been told they were trading up to get Brayshaw. 

It was Petracca.

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4 minutes ago, SFebey said:

It was Petracca.

It was Brayshaw.

(tennis)

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Just now, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

It was Brayshaw.

(tennis)

Only reason I commented was they spent 5 mins talking about that exact trade on radio this morning, then onto the Weller for pick 2 one!

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2 minutes ago, SFebey said:

Only reason I commented was they spent 5 mins talking about that exact trade on radio this morning, then onto the Weller for pick 2 one!

The media at the time reported it was for Petracca.

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On 6/14/2018 at 10:30 AM, Smokey said:

If your boss told you weren't allowed to go on Demonland in your spare time outside of work until you hit a KPI at work - what would you say? 
 

I guess were it actually relevant to my work, as it is with Petracca, then I would say yes. 

On 6/14/2018 at 11:08 AM, Neil Crompton said:

That’s my point. His weight does not necessarily stop him from having a tank  - as per Wines. I think Petracca’s problem is between his ears. He needs a serious wake up call now, or he’ll always be that guy who threatens to have a brake out game - and this blog can not afford another one of those.

The brakes need to break. 

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Petracca looks at home in a Melbourne jumper. Hard to imagine him in a Swans jumper. 

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On 14 June 2018 at 6:20 PM, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

The media at the time reported it was for Petracca.

Exactly.

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From a Q&A with Oscar on the website.

Least-preferred teammate on road trips and why: Christian Petracca – because he eats the whole buffet

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Bloody hell, the guy is out of form. Not sure why he deserves so many people casting aspersions over his character. He obviously needs to improve, but there's plenty of time for that. Lets wait and see where we are in six, 12, 18 months time before we start piling [censored] into a 22 year old.

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On 6/14/2018 at 1:54 PM, Deeoldfart said:

With his undoubted talent, Tracc has the ability to be a game breaker, but 50 games in we are still waiting.  If he could consistently deliver on his potential it would be huge for our footy club, but I'm not convinced that the work-rate is there, right now.  I expect that he arrived at this point in his career on talent alone, but that's not sustainable in today's game.   All dessert and no dinner is not good enough.

How many midfielders are game breakers within 100 games, let alone 50? Only one I can think of at Melbourne is Oliver. Cripps, Bontempelli, Kelly, Shiel stand out in recent years. Coniglio is rated by everyone these days, but took 80 games to really get going at all. 

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4 hours ago, Pirlo said:

Bloody hell, the guy is out of form. Not sure why he deserves so many people casting aspersions over his character. He obviously needs to improve, but there's plenty of time for that. Lets wait and see where we are in six, 12, 18 months time before we start piling [censored] into a 22 year old.

 

Steady on. He's pretty much where I expect him to be.

I imagine he'll have a huge season in 2019 along the lines of Hogan this year.
It takes kids a while to figure this whole thing out, and he'll be dominating like Dusty in time, we just need to be patient.

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He needs to have his role simplified. He is a half forward trying to prove he is a midfielder. Now he is doing neither well. I suspect his mid year review would have been the most interesting fly on the wall convo. I will be interested to see any shift in where he spends his time or the way he approaches the role. Not unusual for a player 50 games in to have a lull. Not many players have a straight up trajectory, those wanting him on the trade table is laughable. He needs to be playing high half forward and get back to attacking the ball and man and setting up goals.

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On 6/14/2018 at 10:30 AM, Smokey said:

If your boss told you weren't allowed to go on Demonland in your spare time outside of work until you hit a KPI at work - what would you say? 
 

If I was paid $500k a year in a career that lasts maybe 10 years and could earn $1m a season because I potentially have the talent... “yes boss”.