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Simple answer. No. Watch his press conference, he is smirking in it after we’ve been humiliated. He is the worst coach we’ve had in a long long time

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I'm not a fan, but let's all be realistic

Is he the type of leader who seeks feedback? Holds himself and others to account?

He needs to take charge of his coaching support group for a genuine, (what might turn out to be) a difficult conversation

He won't be replaced 

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5 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Well what’s changed since this thread has been raised, apart from our rapid decline?

The fact is, we barely made finals last year. We had two good wins against out of form Geelong and a declining Hawthorn and then got destroyed by the eventual premiers. 

Since then we have gone backwards in every critical stat. Yes injuries have not been kind to us, no doubt about that. But we also went into the season totally unprepared for the 6-6-6 rule. We lost Hogan and didn’t even look at replacing him with another forward putting all our eggs into the TMac basket. We did nothing to improve our speed or ball use or two way running or inside 50 kicking. 

So as it stands, other than Goodwin earning himself a 4 year extension, he has done absolutely nothing to make me think he is capable of being a premiership coach. And all I care about is winning premierships. 

To be fair, Weidemann was expected to kick goals (and multiple others, including Petracca, Hannan, Melksham, Garlett), not just Tom. However it is clear that Goodwin needs to adjust his game plan for the second half of this year. The forward structure is not working. We can’t kick enough goals to win and that’s pretty important!

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9 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

Never been a Goodwin fan but I suspect he would still be safe if we finished bottom 4. He isn't going anywhere IMO, so there is no real point applying the blowtorch. He will get another chance in 2020. If we finish outside the 8 in 2020 then he'll be finished.

Yep, the length of his contract alone would be enough to save him, regardless of how bad we were/are.

At least another 2 years, unless we totally implode again next year. Even then i cant see him getting the rrr's as we just wont have the coin.

Lets hope he gets his [censored] sorted soon.

 

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I’m certainly not suggesting we sack him. We are not at crisis point yet. I want to see what he does in the off season and with a healthier list. I just don’t have a lot of hope. 

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Do we need to create a position for Roosy so he can come in and attempt to steady the ship? 

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Becoming more unsure of him every week. Think he needs some really good assistants. 

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Still very happy with Goodwin and believe he will steer us in the right direction. 

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17 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

not to panic

How insightful. Just accept whatever is presented...

Been a very long time....

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1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

How insightful. Just accept whatever is presented...

Been a very long time....

There is a big difference between not panicking and just accepting whatever is presented.

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Just now, drysdale demon said:

There is a big difference between not panicking and just accepting whatever is presented.

I would agree with you if our skill level was not so poor. The First half today was atrocious and for that to be shown at AFL level is just not on

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Six years into our latest plan and it aint working. Viney said seconds before the start that our plan was to start fast, yes fast. If that is what Goodwin wanted then he is not coaching well. Would you tell players down on confidence and skill to speed up their moments and style against one if the best two sides in the competition. Especially when you must know all the other teams just plan to sweat on us and wait for the errors to occur.

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He's here for 2020 at least so no use discussing it in the short term.

Said five weeks ago the test is to see what we do in preparation for 2020.

I have no worries at present... in fact today's loss could free him up to be a bit more experimental.

Mind you lose the first three rounds next year and he'll be gone mid season... the brand cannot survive another failure

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Sacking and paying Goodwin out goes onto the FD spend for the season that he might get sacked.  And there is a limit on the FD spend allowed. 

So it is highly unlikely that we can sack Goodwin even if we wanted to.  Certainly not this year anyway and next year is the first year of a 3 year extension so the sacking of Goodwin next year is also not feasible.  He'd be on guaranteed money. 

Surrounding Goodwin with a new set of assistants is feasible though.  Most of the Assistant's contracts would be year to year you'd imagine. 

What we do need is a fresh approach and some fresh ideas.  3 & 9 is unacceptable.  The playing stocks needs a do-over and a rebuild too.  Not a total rebuild obviously as do have some talent on the list. 

The worst thing we could do as a club is not recognising that we have some major issues.  Our skills are way below par,  we're slow and we don't possess a will to win.  We fumble too much and turn the ball over too easily.  And we are woeful in front of goal.

We are miles off.

The tell-tale signs were there from game 1 this season.  Humiliated in a prelim final we had to come out all guns blazing in round 1 and that didn't happen.  We're now floundering.

Conduct a thorough review and then rebuild the list via trades and sound recruiting and surround Goodwin with a bunch of new assistants.  And put Goodwin as well as the senior players on notice (via the board/Pert)

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As I said earlier today, Goodwin wont be our coach this time next year, we are all biding and wasting our time became the trigger cant be pulled this season for contractual/financial reasons. This guy  is way out of his depth and until the negative results will continue to pile up.

 

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19 minutes ago, stranga said:

As I said earlier today, Goodwin wont be our coach this time next year, we are all biding and wasting our time became the trigger cant be pulled this season for contractual/financial reasons. This guy  is way out of his depth and until the negative results will continue to pile up.

 

You have no idea what you are talking about. Absolute drivel

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1 hour ago, Nasher said:

Still very happy with Goodwin and believe he will steer us in the right direction. 

Not having a go at you at all, but genuinely interested in the reasons behind you confidence? 

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