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You're good at making sweeping generalisations.  And yes, there's unquestionably areas where the team needs to improve.  But I don't agree with your assessment of Goodwin.  We're lucky to have him.

Our team is not "mentally weak" but there's a significant number of posters here who are and don't seem to be able to see the forest for the trees. Saturday night was bitterly disappointing - the

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Only recently have i started to really love Goodwin as our coach. 

He is so measured, that he could come across as lacking charisma. I think AFL coaches need a level of charisma to capture the hearts of players and fans, example, watching Alan Richardson on 360, he is so dry and uninspiring. 

But his levelheadedness throughout the weeks where we were trying to cement a finals spot was unbelievable. 

He clearly loves the club, the players and the fans. I can see him being our coach for many, many years, and i think the players love him as well. 

 

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9 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

 

9 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

 

 

Some real good quotes above, one day some of you might learn something about building a team.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I left these one's off my previous post.

Were you saving these for when we actually made finals? Maybe back your guy in right away instead of combing over old comments to make yourself seem like you have had unwaivering support all season. 

 

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6 hours ago, Lord Neville X Flash said:

Only recently have i started to really love Goodwin as our coach. 

He is so measured, that he could come across as lacking charisma. I think AFL coaches need a level of charisma to capture the hearts of players and fans, example, watching Alan Richardson on 360, he is so dry and uninspiring. 

But his levelheadedness throughout the weeks where we were trying to cement a finals spot was unbelievable. 

He clearly loves the club, the players and the fans. I can see him being our coach for many, many years, and i think the players love him as well. 

 

The twinkle/gaze in his eyes and slight amusement evident at the corner of his lips during pressers should give you a clue that Goodwin isn't lacking charisma. I've always found him compelling, but he's a coach, tasked with winning football, and compulsory media work is only ever a distraction. He's also smart enough to know not to give up any distracting fodder. Dishing up unemotional corporate speak to keep the media pigs at bay should never be confused with a lack of emotion, coaching nous or charisma. 

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11 hours ago, A F said:

He's clearly been talking with Rooke and potentially even McCartney.

He's clearly been speaking with them as his anecdotal stories re Harmes attest.

But being the best third quarter team in the AFL draws self-evident conclusions.

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4 minutes ago, ProDee said:

He's clearly been speaking with them as his anecdotal stories re Harmes attest.

But being the best third quarter team in the AFL draws self-evident conclusions.

they've got no plan b though...

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8 hours ago, Adzman said:

Were you saving these for when we actually made finals? Maybe back your guy in right away instead of combing over old comments to make yourself seem like you have had unwaivering support all season. 

 

No, I was just highlighting some idiotic posts, I could have done this prior to making finals.As I have posted on this thread previously on more than one occasion, Goodwin will be offered a new contract before the end of next season regardless of making finals this year.

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3 minutes ago, Watson11 said:

As Jimmy Bartel states best 3rd qtr team in the the league points to coaching team fixing issues during games.  Great coaching.

i've got some pretty dry humour watto.

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6 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

No, I was just highlighting some idiotic posts, I could have done this prior to making finals.As I have posted on this thread previously on more than one occasion, Goodwin will be offered a new contract before the end of next season regardless of making finals this year.

And I was just highlighting your idiotic post. Taking a cheap swipe at several demonlanders is not a good move on here, just plain pointless.

If you want to highlight a post you disagree with, do it right away and not when the situation suits your point of view.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Adzman said:

And I was just highlighting your idiotic post. Taking a cheap swipe at several demonlanders is not a good move on here, just plain pointless.

If you want to highlight a post you disagree with, do it right away and not when the situation suits your point of view.

 

 

Yes Sir.

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1 hour ago, Adzman said:

And I was just highlighting your idiotic post. Taking a cheap swipe at several demonlanders is not a good move on here, just plain pointless.

If you want to highlight a post you disagree with, do it right away and not when the situation suits your point of view.

 

 

Why should people not be held accountable for past posts?  You don’t get to post something terrible and then make it disappear because you’re embarrassed by it.

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3 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

Why should people not be held accountable for past posts?  You don’t get to post something terrible and then make it disappear because you’re embarrassed by it.

I'm not embarrassed by anything Bob, I just think it's poor form to go looking for it just for the sake of it. The basis of my post states I'm fine with it, but do it at the time posted and not when the situation suits your point of view.

In the interest of holding people to account for posts, I am just letting dysdale know I'm not a fan of the pointless posts of dragging old posts up and taking pot shots at contributors to demonland. I have no issue with Drysdale as a contributor to the forum, and welcome all posts provided they add something.

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30 minutes ago, Adzman said:

I'm not embarrassed by anything Bob, I just think it's poor form to go looking for it just for the sake of it. The basis of my post states I'm fine with it, but do it at the time posted and not when the situation suits your point of view.

In the interest of holding people to account for posts, I am just letting dysdale know I'm not a fan of the pointless posts of dragging old posts up and taking pot shots at contributors to demonland. I have no issue with Drysdale as a contributor to the forum, and welcome all posts provided they add something.

You, along with many others, made a ridiculous statement to remove the coach after round 4. You made up facts about him losing the players. You jumped at shadows because you haven't understood the process of building a team.

These are all facts. Being called out on them is not as bad as any of the above.

Perhaps try and have some faith that the people employed to run the club, even though that might be difficult after the 2007-2013 period. Be clear that the people in charge now weren't there then and Roos/Goodwin have been very open and honest about the process since they've been there. Has what they have said been wrong?

Who knows, you might even enjoy the ride.

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1 hour ago, Adzman said:

I'm not embarrassed by anything Bob, I just think it's poor form to go looking for it just for the sake of it. The basis of my post states I'm fine with it, but do it at the time posted and not when the situation suits your point of view.

In the interest of holding people to account for posts, I am just letting dysdale know I'm not a fan of the pointless posts of dragging old posts up and taking pot shots at contributors to demonland. I have no issue with Drysdale as a contributor to the forum, and welcome all posts provided they add something.

Your first post was just vanilla grade post-loss internet melting, so nobody took your opinion seriously. That's why nobody quoted you directly at the time.

But looking back with the passage of time showed everyone what people were saying and gives everyone a chance to reflect on how stupid their posts look. Hopefully this gives everybody (not just those quoted) a chance to think about the big picture next time they are tempted to make the same mistake.

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I understand us supporters getting frustrated and venting, but I do find it annoying when supporters go scapegoat hunting as if sacking a coach or player is the answer to any of the issues that have been a long time in the making.  As Roos said last night during "on the couch",  Melbourne had a veil of negativity associated with it, which we supporters contribute to.  Goodwin understands why,  never complains about it, is owning it and is proudly sending every hoodoo into the rubbish one by one, which I'm confident will end in a premiership.    We are lucky to have him.  And as he has been saying for a while, we are so close.  Since the St Kilda game he has fixed a lot of things, and its still not perfect but is getting closer.  Hopefully this year if everything clicks and we pinch one early, but if not I'm convinced 2019-2025 is the best time to be a Demons supporter in 50 years.   

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13 hours ago, Adzman said:

Were you saving these for when we actually made finals? Maybe back your guy in right away instead of combing over old comments to make yourself seem like you have had unwaivering support all season. 

 

I see you have a couple of poodles agree with you.

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15 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

I see you have a couple of poodles agree with you.

If the poodles you're referring to is me and @jnrmac then you sir have serious issues.. what are you 12?

I dont think I've ever seen you add any valuable contribution to this site accept maybe snipe at people who differ to your opinion. 

Talk football once once in your life old man, you might actually get some sort of great satisfaction out of it.

 

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45 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

If the poodles you're referring to is me and @jnrmac then you sir have serious issues.. what are you 12?

I dont think I've ever seen you add any valuable contribution to this site accept maybe snipe at people who differ to your opinion. 

Talk football once once in your life old man, you might actually get some sort of great satisfaction out of it.

 

Poodles is slang for a word, I talk football to people who know a bit about it.

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On 8/28/2018 at 9:57 AM, Axis of Bob said:

Why should people not be held accountable for past posts?  You don’t get to post something terrible and then make it disappear because you’re embarrassed by it.

If it’s terrible then yes probably. If it’s just an opinion then no. You can be allowed to change your mind when new information comes to hand.

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Should we close this thread? 

I don't wish to invalidate past comments as the vast majority were made with goodwill and related to what was happening at the time.

But there is so much 'baggage' in here.   And, so much has changed since it was started.   Seeing it bumped prepares me for negative comments about Goodwin or other posters. 

So, in the interests of accepting Goodwin's plea to 'support and believe in this team' should we open a new thread for the coach(es) eg 'Goodwin Takes Demons to Finals'?   Or any positive title reflecting where he and the team are now? 

There will still be criticisms in the thread but they will be more relevant to now than to what is rapidly becoming ancient history.

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I still think there's holes in the gameplan and we still do silly things, just because we scraped into finals doesnt let Goodwin off the hook. Winning a final is a pass seeing we should have made them last year. If he goes deep and adapts and brings home the bacon, hand him an open cheque and install a bronze statue.

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32 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Should we close this thread? 

I don't wish to invalidate past comments as the vast majority were made with goodwill and related to what was happening at the time.

But there is so much 'baggage' in here.   And, so much has changed since it was started.   Seeing it bumped prepares me for negative comments about Goodwin or other posters. 

So, in the interests of accepting Goodwin's plea to 'support and believe in this team' should we open a new thread for the coach(es) eg 'Goodwin Takes Demons to Finals'?   Or any positive title reflecting where he and the team are now? 

There will still be criticisms in the thread but they will be more relevant to now than to what is rapidly becoming ancient history.

No-one is asking you to read it.

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