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31 minutes ago, olisik said:

Or just arrogant af

Corporate speak. Goody is a master at it.

And arrogance is often a mask to avoid answering questions that you have no answers for.

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Have never thought he was the right guy.
Always felt he made dumb decisions.
Gambling on games as a player.
Getting tangled up in essendons doping as an assistant etc.
Choosing to coach the MFC.

Has had years to sort out our deplorable forward entries and earlier this year I thought he finally had.
Now I see he obviously hasn't.
Still can't focus the players enough so they don't drop games to the bottom sides.
So no, I don't think he is the right guy.
Call Clarkeson.

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If we slip to 5th, unless we win the flag his entire 2022 will be on notice.

I think he has coached well this year. But just like the Daniher years we lose to poor teams and it ultimately costs us good strategic ladder positioning. We should probably have been undefeated going into last night.

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7 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

Have never thought he was the right guy.
Always felt he made dumb decisions.
Gambling on games as a player.
Getting tangled up in essendons doping as an assistant etc.
Choosing to coach the MFC.

Has had years to sort out our deplorable forward entries and earlier this year I thought he finally had.
Now I see he obviously hasn't.
Still can't focus the players enough so they don't drop games to the bottom sides.
So no, I don't think he is the right guy.
Call Clarkeson.

Except for the last sentence, fully agree. Goodwin never was (and will not be) the right guy to coach the MFC. How many times does he have to prove this with our players, new and ageing? 

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He has coached well this year imv after being under severe pressure last off season

My nightmare scenario sees us finishing 5th and losing to Essendon in the elimination final. If that happens Goody will be back under the pump.

 

P.S. If the above god awful situation eventuates I'll need therapy

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27 minutes ago, BDA said:

 My nightmare scenario sees us finishing 5th and losing to Essendon in the elimination final. If that happens Goody will be back under the pump.

That would be the absolute forken worst.
But very forken possible.
In fact I'd near back it in.

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I think he’s coached well this year. I simply think our game plan has become easier to coach against as teams have had greater exposure to it. 

I think the issue is still list balance. Our defence and midfield contested stuff is good, but our spread has stopped (Langdon, Salem and Jordan well down). We still need another 2 outside run and carry skilful players. Viney and Brayshaw are 2 inside mids trying to plug that hole, and who have we got at Casey? Jones, VDB and Sparrow (inside types, hard at it but no speed or foot skill).

If we carry the ball further we get the ball further into our forward line and our conversion goes way up. The difference in conversion in last nights game was 20% more efficiency to the dogs - and they won by 20 points. Yze needs to step up and show his worth here. Difficult trading decisions to come.

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Goodwins biggest flaw is he is one tracked. Once that is worked out by opponents, he is devoid of any ideas and changes. Never during the game, and tbh very little off the ground. We will go in with minimal change to personnel or game plan for the rest of the year.

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8 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

Have never thought he was the right guy.
Always felt he made dumb decisions.
Gambling on games as a player.
Getting tangled up in essendons doping as an assistant etc.
Choosing to coach the MFC.

Has had years to sort out our deplorable forward entries and earlier this year I thought he finally had.
Now I see he obviously hasn't.
Still can't focus the players enough so they don't drop games to the bottom sides.
So no, I don't think he is the right guy.
Call Clarkeson.

100% agree. Strong history of making poor choices. With the healthy list we have we shouldn’t be dropping this many games at this point of the season. 
 

Clarko would lead this list to a three peat 

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5 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

The hysterics of some supporters continues I see.

True. But though there's no need to panic - YET! - there has to be concerns. Take out the Pt Adelaide game and our form has been terrible for weeks, down there with the worse in the comp. The draw with Hawthorn was appalling. I know Goodwin has to project an air of calm and confidence, but he has to be worried, whatever he says. Then again, maybe it just comes down to ability. There's always been a suspicion that our spread of elite talent is a bit thin. Its starting to show.

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11 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

The hysterics of some supporters continues I see.

Also see there are those still content with the mediocrity of the last 50yrs.

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Not much need to panic, but definitely issues that need to be addressed.

Workloads, particularly Jackson others who are not impacting, perhaps some defenders . Petty and Rivers must br peaking in finals.

Blood some replacements while resting those above. 

Gawns dominance and how our forwards structure is affected when he takes and kicks short or thumps to space.

Use of Brown and TMac who both roam too far from forward zone.

Our incorrect tackling and placement in close where we give but do not receive free kicks.

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2 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

The hysterics of some supporters continues I see.

Is it hysterical that we have lost to

Adelaide

GWS

Collingwood 

Draw vs Hawks ?

Really good sides crush lower sides and kick big scores. We do the exact opposite and lose. Very very worrying and problematic at the pionty end of the year. I can see us easily missing out on a top 4 chance and going out in straight sets

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5 hours ago, BDA said:

He has coached well this year imv after being under severe pressure last off season

My nightmare scenario sees us finishing 5th and losing to Essendon in the elimination final. If that happens Goody will be back under the pump.

 

P.S. If the above god awful situation eventuates I'll need therapy

Essendon's flaky - will jeopardise their chance to make it as well as their chance to win a final.

Richmond is by far the scarier threat. If they get a run on and finish 8th...

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Saying that he can’t coach is clearly ridiculous - we have been on top of the ladder for the majority of the season. It’s also about building a list for the next 10 years or so - every year, we will iron out problems and improve - mostly through experience.

HOWEVER! We definitely have a problem with our forward line - I imagine that, pre-season, the coaches were excited about a Brown-Weideman combination to spearhead the team. Obviously, this has not happened and the resurgence of TMac has been quite lucky for us. We cannot win games on our defence alone - add a more potent forward line and we will be a VERY good team. It will probably improve the output of our mids, if they at least have reliable targets and leading patterns to kick to.

The losses this year have been the most disappointing and, again, I’d argue that a better, more accurate forward line would have seen us pick those games up. The problem is that losing those games has now put us in a position where it’s difficult to now rest players, as we have to try and ensure a Top 4 finish.

 

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3 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

Also see there are those still content with the mediocrity of the last 50yrs.

Just curious, is top 4 after 19 rounds mediocrity? At the start of the year there wouldn’t have been a supporter here who wouldn’t take our current situation.

Goodwin has got a lot right this year. He’s over performed. You have to give credit where it’s due - although I acknowledge Demonland on a Sunday after a loss is not the audience for any reasonable conversation.

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27 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Essendon's flaky - will jeopardise their chance to make it as well as their chance to win a final.

Richmond is by far the scarier threat. If they get a run on and finish 8th...

I was voicing my worst MFCSS laden fear T_U. Losing an elim final to any team would be crushing. But the thoughts of losing to Essendon bring me out in a cold sweat  

And if we are beaten in an elim final this year, no matter who beats us, I reckon the heat will come back on Goody

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18 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

Just curious, is top 4 after 19 rounds mediocrity? At the start of the year there wouldn’t have been a supporter here who wouldn’t take our current situation.

Goodwin has got a lot right this year. He’s over performed. You have to give credit where it’s due - although I acknowledge Demonland on a Sunday after a loss is not the audience for any reasonable conversation.

Nah, he hasn't over performed and nor have the team. You can only win or lose against who is in front of you.

He is an astute coach, Yze and Williams et al are also astute coaches. 

The difficulty now is that some Demonlanders have expectations that we win every game. You know, like all other premiership favourites throughout eternity who have never lost a match on their way to winning such premiership.

I get people's anxieties - but sometimes I shrug my shoulders.

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