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Rubbish. If you’re prepared to hold him to account when things are going badly, you need to give him credit when things are going well. Otherwise just you’re twisting reality to suit your agenda.

Only 3 clubs have clocked an average running speed quicker in defence than in attack for both games. Richmond WB and Melbounre. We are running harder defensively than we have previous season

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2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Don't know what you're talking about. 

 

17 changes in 3 games.

 

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So many learnings from all of these changes to improve our continuity and connection to create the brand on being ruthless that will stand up in finals......

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4 hours ago, old dee said:

Now I am far from a Goodwin fan but I seriously believe we over value our playing list. If you look at it without your loyalty confusing you’re view ( yes I know difficult to do) it is the quality Of a mid  level side. We have 4 very good players, 6 good players and then it falls into A pit with the rest average or simply seconds standard plus 3- 4 Kids that are too early to judge. The best example is our forwards we have one KPF who may improve but right now he is average. 
Our list simply ain’t that wonderful. This year we  will either fall into the finals or just miss either way that is close to our real ability IMO. 

Totally agree. Thanks to 2018, the media helped pump up our tyres. After 2018, everyone had us winning premierships. That final against West Coast should have been a clear sign of what was to come. 2018 was everything falling into place at the right time. We need to look competitive against strong teams and take victory's when we least deserve them. I thought Saints game was a sign but it was only the Saints tripping over.

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3 hours ago, old dee said:

It is not effort that is required it is the lack of skill in the first place, we have a large Number who cannot  hit a target by foot to save their lives. After watching the game for a long time I have seldom seen players improve their kicking by the time they are in their early twenties., If you cannot hit a target by then you never will IMO. 

Sadly old Dee , I believe you are correct 

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I wanted to reserve my judgement last year given our horrid injury run, but my gut told me this guy ain’t it. 2020 has proven to always trust your gut... and science. Don’t listen to conspiracy theorist guys. 

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Goody Freo is a quality team we need to be better for longer. There are learnings. Maxie we will take positives but we can’t dwell on the negatives

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After what Bartlett said post the Port loss, how can they keep Goodwin? If we don’t make finals again? That’s 1 finals series and 1 bottom 2 finish in 4 seasons. Sorry but not good enough. 
Roos has us at 9th in 2017. The club planned for finals. 

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Season on the line against a weak team, and we have 2 goals to 3 quarter time.

Goodwin is a disgrace and no better than Neeld.  At least Neeld had an excuse with the list he had.

He simply has to go.  I dont care if we win this game, just like I didnt care if we came back vs Sydney., Its irrelevant.  Goodwin will drive this club into the ground.

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6 hours ago, Youngwilliam said:

Totally agree. Thanks to 2018, the media helped pump up our tyres. After 2018, everyone had us winning premierships. That final against West Coast should have been a clear sign of what was to come. 2018 was everything falling into place at the right time. We need to look competitive against strong teams and take victory's when we least deserve them. I thought Saints game was a sign but it was only the Saints tripping over.

its time to find a coach that drills skills n sensible game tactics

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5 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Who wants to start the GoFundMe page?
Enough is enough.

Two games in a row that the bottom 5 side has wanted the win far more than the team that has finals on the line.

How can Bartlett and Pert continue with this coach for next year.

did pert take a pay cut

 

2 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

an inanimate carbon rod is a better coach

whats a carbon rod btw?

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For a long time I have played devil’s advocate for Goodwin, but tonight I cannot muster anything up. I am resigning to the fact that maybe he isn’t the right guy.

Our season hasn’t been terrible. We aren’t a disaster or basket case. But we are mediocre and we are staying mediocre. This is the biggest issue for me. We have made no improvements over his four seasons coaching. 

My concerns with sacking Goodwin were always the what ifs. 

What if he does turn it around?

What if it destabilises the playing group?

What if we are overrating our list?

But we can’t sit here and speculate anymore. The more time we speculate, the older and worse our list gets.

My pick is Adem Yze. Bring some heart and soul back to the club because right now, there doesn’t seem to be any.

Another year of disappointment - when will the tides change?

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Yep not renewing while Goodwin is still round, we have traded and recruited for the players he was after 2018 and they have all worked out to different degrees and I was happy to give him this year to prove that last year was the anomaly this proves that it wasn’t.

Time to go and throw the kitchen sink at Clarkson, he is gettable, doesn’t want to rebuild via draft at Hawks. He could take us straight into finals if he is half the coach I think he is.

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