Jump to content

Dees2014

Is Goodwin the right guy....

Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, Dee Watcher said:

So outside of North/Carlton/Saints most of the above are going better than we are.

Yes that's true.

As disappointed as I get when we lose a game - as for reasons outlined here previously - 2019 was always going to be difficult.

Irrespective of our win loss record this year - I would still rather our list, with Goodwin (and a few personnel changes in the FD and list obviously).

2019 is not indicative of where and how the club would play if 90% were up full and functioning throughout the preseason...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Mel Bourne said:

I'm happy for Goodwin to stay if:

- we can see evidence of him acknowledging where he's gone wrong in the past.

- he's willing to admit he's made basic game-plan errors in the past, and is developing new approaches (in consultation with the asst coaches and leadership group).

- he shows some goddamn passion. I'm getting tired of the dead-eyed smirks and gentle admonishment of nobody in particular after losses, when the supporters are enraged and in some degree of existential pain.

- he starts showing some genuine initiative mid-match when things aren't going our way, or look to be in danger. The amount of times we've seen the game-plan remain in one piece while everything falls to [censored] around it this season is simply unacceptable.

I'm not of the opinion the club needs further instability right now, but the supporters need to see some hard evidence that the club is doing it's utmost to repent for what has been an embarrassing, deflating season. 

There is evidence that he does all of those things you ask of him @Mel Bourne  - I'll try and find some evidence throughout the next few days.

Just on the 'goddamn passion' bit - Brad Scott showed goddamn passion - I'd hate it if Goodwin acted like that. Fine to privately critique - but to publicly single out players, or get overly frustrated in a public sphere makes him and the club look unhinged.

He's a measured man, don't mistake that for not caring.

 

Edited by Engorged Onion
  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Unleash Hell said:

Whats the point of you contributing if you have a one sided viewpoint.

Also what would a long time MFC supporter know about success or how to build success.

This threat is where sanity comes to die.

Its one sided ....just like our "Success"  It is what it is...

Im not about to say  go you Good Goodwin ) other than out the door ) as I simply dont rate him. Some suggest all is well if he sees the error of his ways.  The club isnt about Goodwin...its about the jumper, the actual success of the team etc. Goodwin, Mahoney, Mccartney..etc etc are all just paid servants of the club. Win or lose at the moment they still rake it in. Id be happy to see them off I truly would.  Theyve had their shot..it's failed. Go!!

If you want to change an outcome ( and speaking of sanity ..as Einstein suggests you have to change the input ) then we need a radical shift.  The players are only trying to implement a game-plan /style/brand call it what you will thats handed to them by the 'Brains Trust "

It's my concerted opinion that they are invariably not only played in a fashion that is unsustainable and only marginally worthy of any sane implementation at best  but that the whole tenet of our game is counter intuitive to about 90% of players.

How does anyone know of success ??  A good question. But first you must accept that many of us have lives/work/ businesses/interests away from football. I.e  Football, or the supporting of such ,  does not define our individual abilities.  I like many here have managed quite ok in life. If id applied the methods of this club to my private life Id be bankrupt. It's because I'm not, like many others, that there is some cause to think that those who can see with clarity in things non football might bring to bear some of their ideas  to it.

Ive spent most of my working life in two areas....  IT..Systems and Networks....and in Building.   Both fields of endeavour are built upon ( npi ) a good working knowledge and the implementation of sound and workable designs.  If it's stuffed on the drawing board it is never going to fly  off of it !!.  Here  I go back to my , all but signature concern; we lose by design. The Architects are bereft of a good design. Our game falls over..and over ...and over.

So yes it's a one sided view. I like things that don't fall over. That's been my training. Unless we change out tack we will chase our tails and repeat, repeat, repeat.   If the same people are in charge I can see NO reason why they as a group are about to change wholesale their approach. If they were to then surely it would have happened by now.

 

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Its one sided ....just like our "Success"  It is what it is...

Im not about to say  go you Good Goodwin ) other than out the door ) as I simply dont rate him. Some suggest all is well if he sees the error of his ways.  The club isnt about Goodwin...its about the jumper, the actual success of the team etc. Goodwin, Mahoney, Mccartney..etc etc are all just paid servants of the club. Win or lose at the moment they still rake it in. Id be happy to see them off I truly would.  Theyve had their shot..it's failed. Go!!

If you want to change an outcome ( and speaking of sanity ..as Einstein suggests you have to change the input ) then we need a radical shift.  The players are only trying to implement a game-plan /style/brand call it what you will thats handed to them by the 'Brains Trust "

It's my concerted opinion that they are invariably not only played in a fashion that is unsustainable and only marginally worthy of any sane implementation at best  but that the whole tenet of our game is counter intuitive to about 90% of players.

How does anyone know of success ??  A good question. But first you must accept that many of us have lives/work/ businesses/interests away from football. I.e  Football, or the supporting of such ,  does not define our individual abilities.  I like many here have managed quite ok in life. If id applied the methods of this club to my private life Id be bankrupt. It's because I'm not, like many others, that there is some cause to think that those who can see with clarity in things non football might bring to bear some of their ideas  to it.

Ive spent most of my working life in two areas....  IT..Systems and Networks....and in Building.   Both fields of endeavour are built upon ( npi ) a good working knowledge and the implementation of sound and workable designs.  If it's stuffed on the drawing board it is never going to fly  off of it !!.  Here  I go back to my , all but signature concern; we lose by design. The Architects are bereft of a good design. Our game falls over..and over ...and over.

So yes it's a one sided view. I like things that don't fall over. That's been my training. Unless we change out tack we will chase our tails and repeat, repeat, repeat.   If the same people are in charge I can see NO reason why they as a group are about to change wholesale their approach. If they were to then surely it would have happened by now.

 

Well said. It is like the guy who runs into the brick wall and fails to make it fall, only to run harder the next time. When we have goals against us you can see our mids just run faster and harder at the next contest and if they get it kick it faster and harder without any plan.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Its one sided ....just like our "Success"  It is what it is...

Im not about to say  go you Good Goodwin ) other than out the door ) as I simply dont rate him. Some suggest all is well if he sees the error of his ways.  The club isnt about Goodwin...its about the jumper, the actual success of the team etc. Goodwin, Mahoney, Mccartney..etc etc are all just paid servants of the club. Win or lose at the moment they still rake it in. Id be happy to see them off I truly would.  Theyve had their shot..it's failed. Go!!

If you want to change an outcome ( and speaking of sanity ..as Einstein suggests you have to change the input ) then we need a radical shift.  The players are only trying to implement a game-plan /style/brand call it what you will thats handed to them by the 'Brains Trust "

It's my concerted opinion that they are invariably not only played in a fashion that is unsustainable and only marginally worthy of any sane implementation at best  but that the whole tenet of our game is counter intuitive to about 90% of players.

How does anyone know of success ??  A good question. But first you must accept that many of us have lives/work/ businesses/interests away from football. I.e  Football, or the supporting of such ,  does not define our individual abilities.  I like many here have managed quite ok in life. If id applied the methods of this club to my private life Id be bankrupt. It's because I'm not, like many others, that there is some cause to think that those who can see with clarity in things non football might bring to bear some of their ideas  to it.

Ive spent most of my working life in two areas....  IT..Systems and Networks....and in Building.   Both fields of endeavour are built upon ( npi ) a good working knowledge and the implementation of sound and workable designs.  If it's stuffed on the drawing board it is never going to fly  off of it !!.  Here  I go back to my , all but signature concern; we lose by design. The Architects are bereft of a good design. Our game falls over..and over ...and over.

So yes it's a one sided view. I like things that don't fall over. That's been my training. Unless we change out tack we will chase our tails and repeat, repeat, repeat.   If the same people are in charge I can see NO reason why they as a group are about to change wholesale their approach. If they were to then surely it would have happened by now.

 

BB a very worthy measured view

Thanks for that.

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)
20 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Ive spent most of my working life in two areas....  IT..Systems and Networks....and in Building.   Both fields of endeavour are built upon ( npi ) a good working knowledge and the implementation of sound and workable designs.  If it's stuffed on the drawing board it is never going to fly  off of it !!.  Here  I go back to my , all but signature concern; we lose by design. The Architects are bereft of a good design. Our game falls over..and over ...and over.

Wouldn't it be nice if Goodwin's position was structured similarly to IT service delivery; 

1) BRS: Business requirements completed, peer reviewed and endorsed (all stakeholders)

  • What do we need to achieve in each individual area of footy

2) PSD: Proposed solution document, peer reviewed and endorsed by architectural board (FD)

  • Conceptual mechanisms to meet BRS

3) HLD: High level design, peer reviewed and endorsed by architectural board (FD)

  • High level design of mechanisms to meet BRS

4) DD: Detail/low level design, peer reviewed and endorsed by architectural board (FD)

  • In depth design of how the mechanisms will operate in practice to meet BRS

5) Test plan created, peer reviewed and endorsed by engineering teams (line coaches)

  • List of pass/fail items to observe during development cycle

6) Implementation plan, peer reviewed and endorsed by engineering teams (line coaches)

  • Run sheet of exactly how the changes will be implemented on game day 

7) Pre-production implementation, test cases/pen test completed and reviewed (Casey Demons)

  • Test new design in Casey (obvious problem that Casey doesn't reflect MFC in personnel) 
  • Penetration test - actively seek to find holes in the design and re-mediate 

8 ) Production implementation/Go-live (round 1) (MFC)  

  • Go live - new systems implemented on round 1, 2020

9) BAU ... 

  • Constant review of design
  • System patching (trade period)
Edited by Smokey
  • Love 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 hours ago, Engorged Onion said:

There is evidence that he does all of those things you ask of him @Mel Bourne  - I'll try and find some evidence throughout the next few days.

Just on the 'goddamn passion' bit - Brad Scott showed goddamn passion - I'd hate it if Goodwin acted like that. Fine to privately critique - but to publicly single out players, or get overly frustrated in a public sphere makes him and the club look unhinged.

He's a measured man, don't mistake that for not caring.

 

Fair points, well made. 

I suppose I’m trying to address the almost-bewildering feeling a disappointed and exhausted fan experiences post-siren, when watching the defeated players grinning n’ chatting with the victors, and then hearing those ultra-measured cliches at the press conference afterward about nothing in particular. Amid all of this calmness, one sometimes can’t help feel like one is losing one’s friggin’ mind. I guess, like politicians, I could do with some straight-talk. 

“Yeah look, we’re trying our guts out but we really need a good small forward at the moment. It doesn’t help either that we f$&ked our pre-season up so much. Maybe some of those players would’ve been ok without the surgery in hindsight. Basically this year’s been equally cursed and poorly-managed. Sorry about that”. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
21 hours ago, Engorged Onion said:

Yes that's true.

As disappointed as I get when we lose a game - as for reasons outlined here previously - 2019 was always going to be difficult.

Irrespective of our win loss record this year - I would still rather our list, with Goodwin (and a few personnel changes in the FD and list obviously).

2019 is not indicative of where and how the club would play if 90% were up full and functioning throughout the preseason...

Mate so 2019 isn't indicative of where the club is at? Then what should be judge it on? 

Recent results is what you judge footy clubs on not past performance otherwise hell based on the 1950's we are in good shape

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Smokey said:

Wouldn't it be nice if Goodwin's position was structured similarly to IT service delivery; 

1) BRS: Business requirements completed, peer reviewed and endorsed (all stakeholders)

  • What do we need to achieve in each individual area of footy

2) PSD: Proposed solution document, peer reviewed and endorsed by architectural board (FD)

  • Conceptual mechanisms to meet BRS

3) HLD: High level design, peer reviewed and endorsed by architectural board (FD)

  • High level design of mechanisms to meet BRS

4) DD: Detail/low level design, peer reviewed and endorsed by architectural board (FD)

  • In depth design of how the mechanisms will operate in practice to meet BRS

5) Test plan created, peer reviewed and endorsed by engineering teams (line coaches)

  • List of pass/fail items to observe during development cycle

6) Implementation plan, peer reviewed and endorsed by engineering teams (line coaches)

  • Run sheet of exactly how the changes will be implemented on game day 

7) Pre-production implementation, test cases/pen test completed and reviewed (Casey Demons)

  • Test new design in Casey (obvious problem that Casey doesn't reflect MFC in personnel) 
  • Penetration test - actively seek to find holes in the design and re-mediate 

8 ) Production implementation/Go-live (round 1) (MFC)  

  • Go live - new systems implemented on round 1, 2020

9) BAU ... 

  • Constant review of design
  • System patching (trade period)

Or we could just copy the Tigers game plan of 2017.

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 minutes ago, Dee Watcher said:

Mate so 2019 isn't indicative of where the club is at? Then what should be judge it on? 

Recent results is what you judge footy clubs on not past performance otherwise hell based on the 1950's we are in good shape

This , to me , highlights the vast difference between theory and reality. A lot of folk here make some excellent points. All things going well, on a good day, should have us far higher up the ladder according to the many. I can see how that argument works.Truly. However, exactly as you surmise DW that is not the reality . Where we are is exactly the real State of Affairs, warts and all.

We cant very well interject with a....but if-only.  For surely that trump card would/should be available to all .

We are exactly where we ought to be because this is where we have put ourselves. For those that would still have us differently adjudged if only for the availability of this or that player you really then only need to go to the reasons this or that player isnt available. It's highly likely it has something to do with how we play the game. Our attrition is a result of our style and our resultant position is a product of our attrition.

We've run ourselves into the ground.We did it all by ourselves. Take a bow  MFC

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

On 7/1/2019 at 7:44 AM, beelzebub said:

Fascinating isn't it.

What has become of all the blowhard apologists ? Where are the usual suspect bully boys with their condescending rhetoric ? Skiing perhaps ? Wish I was. That's enjoyable.

What isn't is having to just watch on as we plummet further into an abyss of our own making.

I told you ages ago Badloss wasn't up to it ...not as the senior coach. That he got in under false pretense but the Koolaiders were already too numerous with their diarrhetic retorts.

We've assembled a New Boyz club of coaching. Their intent was a hard it Gladiatorial game. This style had no class, no pinache, no tempo and no ability to bend to the game at hand.

This coaching panel ran our lot into the ground last season and we haven't recovered. We actually never will under this pilotage. The stewardship is flawed. 

I've said for a long while our losing is not accidental. It's by design. We don't plan to lose but we have no working plan to win.

As long as the status quo remains in the box , well, quite frankly we're [censored]. Not only that but talented players are being made to play counter intuitive football. It's crucifying anyone with skill.  We burn players at the MFC. How unnecessarily stupid.

Jackson was a very accomplished administrator, but his forte was NOT football. Once Roos was blindsided and he and his entourage left the void was cunningly filled by the New Boyz. They've nestled in quite well.

Until they go we're stuffed. Until they go more players will be wasted and injured without real reason.

 

Fantastic & honest analysis.

Spot on & by far the most accurate description I have read re Goodwin & his crew.

Well done BB.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We won't know of the true impact and reasoning behind 2019 until halfway through 2020.

That said if we finish bottom 2 or even last, I can't see Goodwin recovering from that. Few coaches do. Especially in their third season. 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Mel Bourne said:

“Yeah look, we’re trying our guts out but we really need a good small forward at the moment. It doesn’t help either that we f$&ked our pre-season up so much. Maybe some of those players would’ve been ok without the surgery in hindsight. Basically this year’s been equally cursed and poorly-managed. Sorry about that”. 

Perfectly said :) - Pin it to your fridge, in bold 108 font.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 6/30/2019 at 7:06 PM, doc roet said:

Sack Goodwin and put in Jane Bunn.

That is the best suggestion I have heard all season.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, praha said:

We won't know of the true impact and reasoning behind 2019 until halfway through 2020.

That said if we finish bottom 2 or even last, I can't see Goodwin recovering from that. Few coaches do. Especially in their third season. 

It makes the decision to renew his contract before the season even started look ordinary. 

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, praha said:

We won't know of the true impact and reasoning behind 2019 until halfway through 2020.

That said if we finish bottom 2 or even last, I can't see Goodwin recovering from that. Few coaches do. Especially in their third season. 

Praha...prior to the season's commencement the industry touted us as top 4. Indeed not that we might be...that we ought to be and if not...well..

If we finish last or next to ??  I'd have to say anything below the top 8 is an abject failure...bottom four ought to invoke Seppuku.

I know many have a different view, but i wouldnt be me without my own  ( lol ). On the matter of tenure.  Goodwin has been at the club since late 2014. His 15 season was to watch and observe and be a sponge. 16 he was handed day game duties. 17 he goes solo.

This is effectively his 4th year running the game for us......and we're going backwards. Yes there are reasons...but at the risk of the grammar gestapo arresting me there are reasons for those reasons and they all come out of the FD/coaching box.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
51 minutes ago, Dee Watcher said:

Mate so 2019 isn't indicative of where the club is at? Then what should be judge it on? 

Recent results is what you judge footy clubs on not past performance otherwise hell based on the 1950's we are in good shape

I mustn't have been clear enough  - the context of why we are where we are matters greatly, that's why I for one am disappointed for the season, and not freaking out about the future under the guidance of Goodwin et al.

  • Like 1
  • Love 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
21 hours ago, Engorged Onion said:

There is evidence that he does all of those things you ask of him @Mel Bourne  - I'll try and find some evidence throughout the next few days.

Just on the 'goddamn passion' bit - Brad Scott showed goddamn passion - I'd hate it if Goodwin acted like that. Fine to privately critique - but to publicly single out players, or get overly frustrated in a public sphere makes him and the club look unhinged.

He's a measured man, don't mistake that for not caring.

 

Narrow argument if you are quoting Brad Scott for passion. You mistake passion for anger if that is the case. In truth Goodwin shows a very narrow range of emotions but what do you expect of a coach who got the job on a one hour interview with one person, Roos based on his take on culture, and not game plans and other virtues. Goodwin, talented , well built footballer, no team success as a captain, assistant at essendon during drug scandal period, successor to Roos. Stinks to high high heaven 

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

Narrow argument if you are quoting Brad Scott for passion. You mistake passion for anger if that is the case. In truth Goodwin shows a very narrow range of emotions but what do you expect of a coach who got the job on a one hour interview with one person, Roos based on his take on culture, and not game plans and other virtues. Goodwin, talented , well built footballer, no team success as a captain, assistant at essendon during drug scandal period, successor to Roos. Stinks to high high heaven 

Mmmm, I used but one example re: B.Scott - I can get exhaustive if you like @Sorry kids.

You'd also be making some massive assumptions about how he operates as a media performer vs outside of that space if you think that that is his 'emotional range'.... and then conflating that with how and why he got a job, which also implies nil due diligence in the recruitment process. 

Tell me more about the 'stinks to high heaven' statement...what is meant by that? Roos and Goodwin are in a boys club? Jobs for the lads? Or something a bit more sinister?

An aside - in your opinion did it stink to high heaven last September against Geelong, Hawthorn?

Edited by Engorged Onion
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Mmmm, I used but one example re: B.Scott - I can get exhaustive if you like @Sorry kids.

You'd also be making some massive assumptions about how he operates as a media performer vs outside of that space if you think that that is his 'emotional range'.... and then conflating that with how and why he got a job, which also implies nil due diligence in the recruitment process. 

Tell me more about the 'stinks to high heaven' statement...what is meant by that?

An aside - in your opinion did it stink to high heaven last September against Geelong, Hawthorn?

Just read this EO - are you in the inner sanctum?

If so, any feedback on Frost and May going at it from the coaches' point of view?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Engorged Onion said:

Mmmm, I used but one example re: B.Scott - I can get exhaustive if you like @Sorry kids.

You'd also be making some massive assumptions about how he operates as a media performer vs outside of that space if you think that that is his 'emotional range'.... and then conflating that with how and why he got a job, which also implies nil due diligence in the recruitment process. 

Tell me more about the 'stinks to high heaven' statement...what is meant by that?

An aside - in your opinion did it stink to high heaven last September against Geelong, Hawthorn?

You make it clear you are a supporter of Goodwin, good for you. I do not believe in him or his game plan or game day strategy. That does not mean he is hopeless, he obviously learnt a lot in his career prior to coming to us. I say you overestimate his ability. As for last year we got on a roll and of course got excited with a game plan that was never going to hold up when the pointy end came. 

Finally due diligence,  Assistant at Essendon during drug scandal, say no more.

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Just read this EO - are you in the inner sanctum?

If so, any feedback on Frost and May going at it from the coaches' point of view?

[censored] fantastic IMO. No way the coaches would've brought it to attention.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Just read this EO - are you in the inner sanctum?

If so, any feedback on Frost and May going at it from the coaches' point of view?

No, not in this inner sanctum @jumbo returns - no info on that.

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

You make it clear you are a supporter of Goodwin, good for you. I do not believe in him or his game plan or game day strategy. That does not mean he is hopeless, he obviously learnt a lot in his career prior to coming to us. I say you overestimate his ability. As for last year we got on a roll and of course got excited with a game plan that was never going to hold up when the pointy end came. 

Finally due diligence,  Assistant at Essendon during drug scandal, say no more.

Absolutely fine your standpoint also @Sorry kids in reference to gameplan/game day strategy. I think it's not working due to injuries/rehab etc etc..

It's interesting, I used to be anti Goodwin because of his link to Essendon - I seem to have softened in that last 2-3 years. 

I just disagree that because of his link, that you (read anyone) can be so black and white, and think that people can't evolve, change ethic, grow (whatever you wish to call it)... as in, he and anyone within Essendon at the time, should under no circumstances be employed in the AFL.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

You make it clear you are a supporter of Goodwin, good for you. I do not believe in him or his game plan or game day strategy. That does not mean he is hopeless, he obviously learnt a lot in his career prior to coming to us. I say you overestimate his ability. As for last year we got on a roll and of course got excited with a game plan that was never going to hold up when the pointy end came. 

Finally due diligence,  Assistant at Essendon during drug scandal, say no more.

That's an interesting statement - as I believe Goodwin has always come from the point of view of playing finals style football (WOOT! BRAND: CONTEST OUT! WOOT!) throughout the entire season. 

AND - as a good coaching team would do, recruit pieces of the puzzle along the way... ie: now it's time for outside run.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Social Media

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles

    HOW FAR SOUTH? by George on the Outer

    It was appropriate that Melbourne was playing its last game of season 2019 in Hobart.  After all, how much further south could the team go? And much as it has done in many of the previous 22 games, the side managed to extract a loss from a winning position by simply giving the ball back to the opposition time and time again. In fact, they gave it back to the opposition to the tune of 53 points from turnovers while, by way of contrast North Melbourne contributed  only 17 points to their oppo

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    COOKED by The Oracle

    I can vividly remember when the Demons ventured onto Blundstone Arena for the first time in early 2016 only to lose to the Kangaroos by 20.11.131 to 21.10.136.    Melbourne was then a team on the up and up: young, enthusiastic and bold. It gave up a huge quarter time deficit after kicking against a strong wind but made that up by half time and fell dramatically short after an exciting high scoring affair.  The team lost no fans that day - they were willing to take the game on and attac

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    HELP by KC rom Casey

    The Casey Demons finished off their home and away season against Frankston at Skybus Stadium on Sunday with a narrow, unconvincing 6-point victory that left the door slightly open for a top eight berth when the VFL finals begin in a fortnight’s time. While sunny skies prevailed over Frankston in the morning, the skies became overcast by noon and heavy waves pounded the bay nearby as the rains came in to greet the players as the game started. And conditions stayed dark and dreary for the rem

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    THANKS BUT NO THANKS by George on the Outer

    Thanks, but no thanks! In a round where the club was supposed to thank their fans for the support during the year, the Melbourne Football Club chose to do otherwise with a 53 point loss to a team that sat 15th on the ladder.  Don’t give us cheap jumpers that can’t be sold in the Demon shop.  Don’t give us vouchers to shop there, give us something on the field, which is why we come to the football in the first place. It was a disgraceful performance, which started with a disgracefu

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    SLEEP OUT AT THE MCG by The Oracle

    Around about 12 months ago Melbourne and Sydney fought out an epic battle between two top eight teams fighting for the best possible ladder position in the lead up to the finals. The Swans triumphed by 9 points at the MCG after the Demons came back from five goals down at three quarter time. But for its poor kicking for goal, Melbourne might well have won the game and finished in the top four. Who knows what might then have happened for the club in September? As a consequence, the person re

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    A LITTLE RAY OF SUNSHINE by KC from Casey

    Two clubs that have been hard hit by injury recently took part in a dour battle under dark clouds and, with intermittent showers falling, it wasn’t a pretty game at Victoria Park on Sunday. Despite all that, the Casey Demons added a little ray of sunshine to their day to get the job done over a "traditional" rival with a 15 point victory over Collingwood VFL that breathed life back into their season. There were a few highlights at the ground that in past days has seen many titanic batt

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    THE RETRO ROUND by George on the Outer

    We have seen it all before… Yes, a wonderful idea to showcase what used to be in football.  Big crowds, umpires who knew how to apply the rules and not opinions, high marks, skilful players. But for the Melbourne supporters their retro is what it has been like for the past 10 years. Losing games, end on end, year after year.  Opportunities squandered in front of goal. VFL standard players running around at the MCG. Just more of the same, and the game against Collingwood was no ex

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    THE PEOPLE SPEAK by The Demonland Crew

    Thanks to Demonlanders for their input into this week’s preview. Ralphius Maximus is short and bittersweet: We'll crack in at the bounce to create a contest, win our share of the ball, butcher the forward movement and get scored on easily from the intercepts. Not that hard to predict. Big Demon says: Unfortunately Collingwood will win because they have a lot more to play for. We will be good in parts but really the season is well over so we will have to put up with those bell

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    WHAT, NO BLOOD? by George on the Outer

    The feeling when turning up to the MCG on a Saturday night to play a top four side in Richmond, while the Melbourne sits cemented in close proximity to the bottom of the table is like attending the Colosseum in Ancient Roman times. The expectation is that a bloodbath is about to occur. There are 100,000 Richmond members and 50,000 Melbourne members, and despite the fact that it turned out to be a wet night after half-time, a crowd of only 37K bothered to turn up. That should never have happ

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    A MAN’S ERRAND by KC from Casey

    A young and undermanned Casey Demons were sent out on Saturday to the Swinburne Centre in the shadows of the MCG on a man’s errand against a very experienced Richmond VFL combination which is the clear ladder leader and fielded no less than 18 AFL listed players. It was expected to be a rout and the Tigers made easy work of it in the early stages when they held a 26 point lead by quarter time. To their credit however, the Demons weathered the storm and kept their opponents within the range

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    THAT’S FOOTBALL by Whispering Jack

    As the season rolls on towards the finals and the football world witnesses the aftermath of the sacking of the league’s unsuccessful coaches, it’s almost  inevitable that the spotlight will turn firmly upon the complete and utter failure of season 2019 - the Melbourne Football Club.  For a team that finished in fourth place last year and was heavily touted as a premiership contender, the fall from grace has been dramatic. As things stand, the Demons look certain to finish 13 places down on

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    THE MOMENT OF TRUTH IS COMING by KC from Casey

    At half time in Sunday’s game at Trevor Barker Beach Oval, things weren’t looking too flash for the flailing finals prospects of the Casey Demons. Key forward Sam Weideman had suffered a concussion in his first contest and, with a few exceptions, the team was playing like a rabble rather than a finals contender. The Demons were 23 points in arrears to the Zebras and their season was headed towards oblivion. It was the skipper Mitch White who spurred his team on by word and by deed - he fini

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

×
×
  • Create New...