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Leadership Group


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I haven’t been following along as much as previous preseasons, but this is yet to be announced as far as I’m aware.

Anyone know who’s in? Normally announced after Maroochydoore.

If not, thoughts?

Viney, Jones captains, Jetta, Gawn, McDonald leadership group. Lewis should be in there because he is a leader, but I like small groups and these guys are as Melbourne as any of us.

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If the AFL is to change the rules for runners, then the structure of the leadership group should be re-considered.

Fewer messages from runners will places a greater burden on the on-field leaders to make critical decisions on structure and balance eg. to defend a small lead, zoning at kick ins, during the game..

We should identify on-field leaders and empower them with the authority to make decisions. While Jones and Viney are locks as co-captains to toss the coin and lead by example, who would be able to make good tactical decisions when needed?

Apart from Lewis who was recruited to fill that rol and Hogan who has remarkable football smarts for such a young player, I can't see anyone else that stands out. I am confident that the FD will make the right choices and they might not be the from among the usual suspects.

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Jones, Viney, T. Mac and Lewis are the only ones off the top of my head i can think of. Is Lever really a leader? I wouldn't be keen putting too much pressure on him in his first season with us. Gawn and Jetta are good shouts, i'm also still a Bernie lover. 

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Why do we need a leadership group greater than three players?

Why not just a captain, a vice captain and a deputy vice captain ( or in the current environment dual captains and a deputy vice captain)

On field leaders will lead naturally - Vince, Lewis, Hogan, Gawn etc

A quick check of the google machine shows our 2015 leadership team consisted of Nathan Jones, Lynden Dunn, Jack Grimes, Daniel Cross, Chris Dawes and Heriter Lumumba. Only one who is still at the club.

In 2013 we had a leadership group of nine players and we won two games

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36 minutes ago, Fatman Blues said:

A quick check of the google machine shows our 2015 leadership team consisted of Nathan Jones, Lynden Dunn, Jack Grimes, Daniel Cross, Chris Dawes and Heriter Lumumba. Only one who is still at the club.

 

And didn't he just reek of leadership...

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Re Jack Watts. Players can be leaders in many different ways and not all of them are obvious or measured by being the best player or the most determined or the most courageous or the most personable and expressive. There are leadership skills that can lift the morale and spirit in a team without there being any overt act by the leader.

There were many times in the past where Jack showed another form of on-field leadership. He was "papa bear" who would hand out pats on the back or on the head of, especially, younger players who had made a valuable contribution to the team such as coring or defending.  The same players would often run to him for his acknowledgement of a valuable act.

I recall David Schwarz filling the same role even when David Neitz was captain. The immediate recognition from a senior player can often be more important than kudos at breaks.

Let's be kind to Jack - he might not have been the player that we expected (fairly or unfairly) but he made a major contribution to our team with his understated on-field leadership. I wish both Jacks (Watts and Trengove) personal (not team) success at PA.

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