Farewell Jack Watts

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2 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

Damn, was hoping all of us would get a car....

Unfortunately hasn't AHG jumped ship?

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Port only have pick 29. So has to be a player involved. Impey as a small forward? Lobbe as a back-up ruck? 

Edited September 27, 2017 by wheaters31

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Surely Jackson Trengove would be an equation in this scenario? 

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2 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Surely Jackson Trengove would be an equation in this scenario? 

He is a FA

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4 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

Port only have pick 29. So has to be a player involved. Impey as a small forward? Lobbe as a back-up ruck? 

2nd rd pick is about right.  

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3 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

He is a FA

Yep, pardon me

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4 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

Port only have pick 29. So has to be a player involved. Impey as a small forward? Lobbe as a back-up ruck? 

Port's 2019 first round pick for Jack Watts and our 2nd round pick this year or next? They might bank on themselves being very good and us being bad.Probably too much but not out of the question.

Otherwise 29 and something a little extra isn't too bad. Not sure 10 and 29 gets Lever but it should.

[DeeZee 7,425]

Watts is probably worth pic 29 and a player but I'd rather have Watts

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jack watts and pick 27 for pick 12 or whatever they have? 

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1 hour ago, mo64 said:

So the supporters who can see the flaws in his game are the reason why the Football Dept are looking to trade him?

And I assume by your reference to Bugg that you actually rate him?

Nope

But I won't start or respond to countless thread, after thread, after thread, after thread, after thread, after thread about him....

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If the whispers are true, I'd be absolutely guttered to see Watts go, but a fresh start might be best for both parties. 

 

 

 

 

 

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46 minutes ago, Unleash Hell said:

Unfortunately hasn't AHG jumped ship?

 

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38 minutes ago, Abe said:

jack watts and pick 27 for pick 12 or whatever they have? 

Port's first pick is #29.

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13 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

If the whispers are true, I'd be absolutely guttered to see Watts go, but a fresh start might be best for both parties. 

I wouldn't say I'd be gutted but I would be very sad if we were to part ways. There's been emotional investment on both parts, you only have to look at how much he and the Melbourne crowd embraced his moment in the sun against the Pies earlier this year to know that we really want him to be a successful Melbourne player.

You may also be right though, a fresh start could be good for him and it could be good for us as well. It would help solve the issue of how we fit so many tall forwards into the line up.

I still question whether the compensation would be worth the price of parting ways.

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

My wife finally joined as a member this season, even chose the pic of Watts on her membership card.

Two years ago she was a " which way are we kicking?" type of fan and that was well and truly into the second quarter.

Now she's threatening not to renew if her Wattsy gets traded. 

 

[DubDee 25,918]

Watts is currently worth about a 2nd pick. Hard to negotiate when you drop him twice and bag his attitude

id prefer Watts to a second round pick. He will never be perfect or tough. But he is very talented player

dont blame him for wanting out of Melb though 

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On 25/09/2017 at 8:35 AM, dees189227 said:

As I put in another thread

Watts said he and Goodwin have no issues and he said he wishes he was taken pick 72 in a rookie draft and just play footy without the attention. 

On footy classified they mentioned if the right trade came along watts could go. Mentioned the pies are after him. If he goes to collingwood I will be disgusted. I couldnt handle him being in a black and white jumper. 

Watts could cure cancer and people would still criticise him. 

Can you imagine him at the Pies after the way their supporters have treated him through the years. Quite funny really.

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Looks like that slime bag Waldron was right

[Ethan Tremblay 30,878]

Watts and pick 10 for Wines or Pick 10 and something else for Lever? 

(Wines ain't happening, it's a hypothetical..)

Edited September 27, 2017 by Ethan Tremblay

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Westhoff? Edit: Ah, did not know he was 30. Would be handy for his marking abilities, but with another pick coming back to us. Watts + 3rd for Westhoff and their 2nd

Edited September 27, 2017 by Deeprived Childhood

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2 hours ago, Demon Jack said:

If the whispers are true, I'd be absolutely guttered to see Watts go, but a fresh start might be best for both parties. 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm quite drained by it all.

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Not gutted massively. If you take away the emotional investment he's a player who's gifts are matched by his faults. He's not a Hogan type who you absolutely know what you'll get from. I feel like wherever he goes, he'll improve and be a good player. KP forwards tend to improve in their late 20s and early 30s. But as much as he'll improve, he'll never  be a champion. With that in mind, if you're brutal about where we are as a club and how serious we are as a list, then a trade makes sense. Also factor in the sentimental side. He's been a good servant. If it's what he wants, I think he's earned it. Personally I've been all for a trade of him for a number of years, based only really on what he's worth on the open market vs what we get from him if he stays... It's a 50-50 call. He could stay and be solid. He could go and get really good as a player. Who knows. Total crystal ball thing...

So with that in mind, it comes down to price. People are saying he's worth a 2nd rounder only, based mostly on how he finished the season. Earlier this year, and at any point from about round 2-16, he was a first rounder easily. KP forwards, albeit odd ones like Jack, don't grow on trees. Anyone that's 195cm and kicks like he does is a known entity, and is definitely worth a first.

I have a sneaking suspicion it involves a 2018 Port pick. I feel like that's the trade we're trying to get into, and every other club is trying to get into. So with Port's first rounder this year not available, and a first rounder next year probably way too valuable... I feel like it might be their second rounder this year and next, with a third rounder and Watts from us. Something in that ballpark.

Fear not though, folks. The list management at the club aren't spuds anymore. Whatever call they make, I'm confident in. If Watts leaves, it's because they made the call. I can deal with that, sad as it may be.

Also. You just never know. Gibbs was supposed to go. Stayed and looks like being a 1 club player. He's not gone just yet, Jack.

Edited September 27, 2017 by Dappa Dan

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3 hours ago, Dappa Dan said:

 

Fear not though, folks. The list management at the club aren't spuds anymore. Whatever call they make, I'm confident in. If Watts leaves, it's because they made the call. I can deal with that, sad as it may be.

Also. You just never know. Gibbs was supposed to go. Stayed and looks like being a 1 club player. He's not gone just yet, Jack.

It will be sad if he goes and I hope the club gets it right - they got it wrong with the Jeremy Howe trade...

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36 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

It will be sad if he goes and I hope the club gets it right - they got it wrong with the Jeremy Howe trade...

No they didn't

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8 hours ago, DubDee said:

Watts is currently worth about a 2nd pick. Hard to negotiate when you drop him twice and bag his attitude

id prefer Watts to a second round pick. He will never be perfect or tough. But he is very talented player

dont blame him for wanting out of Melb though 

He doesn't want to go, he wants to stay. It's the club pushing him out the door. Which makes that weird TV stunt last week even stranger. Barrett said on radio last night that Watts had lost the patience of many at the club, whatever that means, I don't know. Can only assume it's to do with his preparation as Jones said and lack of effort.