MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - ROUND 20

[Redleg 37,474]

47 minutes ago, DubDee said:

The gws line up is intimidating. Stars on every line. Two fwds out helps us but their midfield talent is by far the best in the league. They ran into some form in the last quarter last week. 

I can't see us winning. But there's always a chance in this crazy season

Actually their 3 leading forwards, Cameron, Patton and Greene.

[Lucifers Hero 36,983]

29 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Agreed.  That is the issue - they have plenty of goal kicking mids so still have plenty of scoring power.  In 2015 their midfielders tore us apart with quick clearances and quick goals.

We have quite a different team now but they have shown they can win games without their talls.  They should not be underestimated.

GWS midfield weakness is that they don't defend so well.  That is a plus for us.

The big test:  Gawn vs Mumford.  Whoever wins gives their team the edge.  Both are rusty.  Will be a fascinating match up.

Too close to pick

 

[jnrmac 18,914]

47 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

My understating of AFL rules is that omitted players can play and be listed as emergencies, but rested players technically have an injury and so under the AFLPA agreement have to be left out.

Thats how I've heard Chris Scott explain it anyways.

Thanks didn't know that....

[jnrmac 18,914]

46 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Agreed.  That is the issue - they have plenty of goal kicking mids so still have plenty of scoring power.  In 2015 their midfielders tore us apart with quick clearances and quick goals.

We have quite a different team now but they have shown they can win games without their talls.  They should not be underestimated.

GWS midfield weakness is that they don't defend so well.  That is a plus for us.

The big test:  Gawn vs Mumford.  Whoever wins gives their team the edge.  Both are rusty.  Will be a fascinating match up.

To close to pick

That's where they can be exploited. IF their tall fwds don't mark the ball it can come out pretty quickly. Its good that a few of their talls are out but we aren't very good at defending against tall defenders in general.

Rory Lobb to kick a lazy 5

Edited August 4, 2017 by jnrmac

[binman 37,763]

We have been very patchy since our big win against the bullies in round 13. And in that period we have struggled in two key areas: our midfield (in particular with our intensity) and our ability to kick a winning score.

Consequently I have two key, interconnected, concerns about this game.

One, we are in big trouble if our midfield does not bring the required pressure and intensity. It was instructive to hear Goody say in his presser yesterday:

"We're looking forward to our midfield coming back together, we've probably lacked a bit of continuity in that area of the ground for a number of weeks now."

Except for Gus this is the best midfield we can field. No excuses. I'm really looking forward to seeing what Maynard brings and i'm confident that Viney and Jones can lead the way in the pressure and intensity stakes. Bernie owes us also.

Since that round 13 game against the bullies, where we really clicked, we have really struggled to put a winning score on the board. In that time only one team has scored more than 100 points against us - the top of table, high scoring Crows unit. yet we have lost games because we haven't been able to cross the critical 100 point barrier once. Good thing we have Tmac up there or we would not have won the two games we won in that period. 

Watts really needs to stand up. I was really disappointed with his game last week and in Jessie' absence and our final campaign at stake he simply has to take control and be a leader. We can't be relying on Jeffy to be our leading goal scorer so players like harmes, Petracca and Pederson also have to contribute goals.

Of course our scoring ability is related to our pressure but also our woeful forward entries. We simply cannot afford to waste so many chances going inside 50. 

The time is now for the dees. I'll be furious if they don't bring the pressure and can't sort out their scoring this week. 

 

Edited August 4, 2017 by binman

[What 18,810]

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

The gws line up is intimidating. Stars on every line.

They've been playing like crap and will be without Cameron, Patton and Greene.

Deledio will be underdone.

And have a look at our lineup, we have stars on every line too.

We will win.

 

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

21 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

They've been playing like crap and will be without Cameron, Patton and Greene.

Deledio will be underdone.

And have a look at our lineup, we have stars on every line too.

We will win.

 

The frequency at which you throw around the word "star" is super cringeworthy. 

 

[DubDee 20,338]

26 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

They've been playing like crap and will be without Cameron, Patton and Greene.

Deledio will be underdone.

And have a look at our lineup, we have stars on every line too.

We will win.

 

I hope you are right

[JTR 2,627]

29 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

They've been playing like crap and will be without Cameron, Patton and Greene.

Deledio will be underdone.

And have a look at our lineup, we have stars on every line too.

We will win.

 

I admire your positive outlook, for now, but it was only a few days that you were raging hard, labelling the players cowards and saying it was another false dawn.

Must be tough being you during the season.

You seem to create your own roller coasters to go along with what the team dishes up! 

[McQueen 17,862]

There's no doubt in my mind that we're capable of beating them - particularly now that they have some real lack of scoring power.

I still rate our win in Adelaide against the Crows as our benchmark game. The pressure we applied was insane and the tackles were crunching. 

We need to replicate that performance so badly tomorrow. It's a taxing style of play and quite understanderbly a key variable in why our performances have been up and down as the years has progressed.

I hope Jones and Vince come in breathing fire and add that physicality we were missing last week. I want to see Pedo step straight up again like he did when he got his opportunity earlier this year. The big man can play.

I'm tipping a win but gee wiz I reckon there's going to be some fierce contests and sore bodies come out of this game.

C'mon Dee's. ??

[wizardinoz 2,013]

Patton out is a real bonus for us.

Edited August 4, 2017 by wizardinoz

[What 18,810]

23 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

The frequency at which you throw around the word "star" is super cringeworthy. 

 

Almost as 'cringeworthy' as using the phrase 'super cringeworthy'.

[Pates 9,536]

I've tipped GWS, so we've got a good chance!

It's been said but one of the biggest variables so our game is our intensity with tackling pressure. When that dips so does the rest of our game, we need to get back to the level we produced vs Adelaide. 

I want big games from Vince, Watts, and Lewis. All of them owe the team good games for various reasons and they are leaders. Time to stand up. 

I also want to see Petracca back to his best, he was close to ineffectual in the last quarter (only quarter I was able to watch), he's young but he's a game breaker. He also doesn't like staying off for a while, would love to see him put in a dominating 4 quarter effort v GWS. 

Like many games this year, I have no doubt we CAN win. Much of it is dependent on how the players respond from last weeks pathetically stupid loss. 

[deebug 1,754]

3 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

No worries, they'll let Jetta cover him.

After Daw's knee to poor Nev's face last week; i didn't think Nev would be playing this week? Poor guy was in a lot of pain.

Hard as nails our Nev.

[monoccular 16,010]

9 hours ago, CBDees said:

JKH has been named in the back pocket in the VFL

 

9 hours ago, AzzKikA said:

Guess Goody told Plappy to sort his defensive deficiencies out.

Meaningless as "named positions" are, does JKH have the intensity and skills to eventually follow Nev as a "small defender"?  Could this be why he has been named there?   (I have no idea - genuine question for those who have any idea).

[1964nowMORE 439]

Patton out is a huge bonus. Big pressure on an out of form Lobb, like Watts for us.

we didn't seem to like the cold in Hobart last week.....and having arrived in Canberra today I can confirm at 3.10pm the BOM listed the "feels like" temp at -0.1!!!! Yep, bloody freezing up here, colder than Hobart.

cmon Dees, time to lift and get some form and momentum back.

[Glenn Molloy 494]

2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Agreed.  That is the issue - they have plenty of goal kicking mids so still have plenty of scoring power.  In 2015 their midfielders tore us apart with quick clearances and quick goals.

We have quite a different team now but they have shown they can win games without their talls.  They should not be underestimated.

GWS midfield weakness is that they don't defend so well.  That is a plus for us.

The big test:  Gawn vs Mumford.  Whoever wins gives their team the edge.  Both are rusty.  Will be a fascinating match up.

To close to pick

Agree that this is critical.  I've got a sneaky feeling that Mumford won't play - they talked about him needing a couple of weeks off after the Richmond game due to his ankle and Dawson Simpson is an emergency.  Will be interesting to see just how fit Mumford is if he does play

[Skuit 9,109]

3 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

I predict Harry 'no-name' Himmelberg to kick 11 in Patton's absence.

I think you mean Harry 'awesome-name' Himmelberg.

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 3,925]

If we win this we deserve finals and maybe most of last weekend will be forgotten. A loss here though we can't drop anymore games

Edited August 4, 2017 by david_neitz_is_my_dad

[Dee tention 611]

22 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

If we win this we deserve finals and maybe most of last weekend will be forgotten. A loss here though we can't drop anymore games

We only deserve finals if we are in the final 8 after Round 23. Not if we win this week.

[MudDogs Gawn Win.. someday 499]

8 hours ago, Beetle said:

I know you personally and I hate you.

Haha Cop It beetle!

[Pennant St Dee 11,241]

I wasn't sure on the result but the usual suspect with the school holiday chat has us winning.

That's the kiss of death we're done

[leave it to deever 15,155]

Rather than looking up a thread about him.....is there any chance GUS will play this year......even in finals?

[praha 10,267]

3 hours ago, binman said:

We have been very patchy since our big win against the bullies in round 13. And in that period we have struggled in two key areas: our midfield (in particular with our intensity) and our ability to kick a winning score.

Consequently I have two key, interconnected, concerns about this game.

One, we are in big trouble if our midfield does not bring the required pressure and intensity. It was instructive to hear Goody say in his presser yesterday:

"We're looking forward to our midfield coming back together, we've probably lacked a bit of continuity in that area of the ground for a number of weeks now."

Except for Gus this is the best midfield we can field. No excuses. I'm really looking forward to seeing what Maynard brings and i'm confident that Viney and Jones can lead the way in the pressure and intensity stakes. Bernie owes us also.

Since that round 13 game against the bullies, where we really clicked, we have really struggled to put a winning score on the board. In that time only one team has scored more than 100 points against us - the top of table, high scoring Crows unit. yet we have lost games because we haven't been able to cross the critical 100 point barrier once. Good thing we have Tmac up there or we would not have won the two games we won in that period. 

Watts really needs to stand up. I was really disappointed with his game last week and in Jessie' absence and our final campaign at stake he simply has to take control and be a leader. We can't be relying on Jeffy to be our leading goal scorer so players like harmes, Petracca and Pederson also have to contribute goals.

Of course our scoring ability is related to our pressure but also our woeful forward entries. We simply cannot afford to waste so many chances going inside 50. 

The time is now for the dees. I'll be furious if they don't bring the pressure and can't sort out their scoring this week. 

 

Good post. Our forward pressure has been okay but our entries have been shocking and the opposition has been reading us extremely well in most games since the Bulldogs game. 

Although our Port game I thought was very good. We attacked superbly in the first half but people underrate Port and think we should have won by 100 points, but Port tightened up defensively and upped the annte offensively. We held up across the ground extremely well but it shows how important it is to score highly and often to get a leg up. Defensively I think we're very good despite what some here think, structurally it's arguably our most coherent and consistent part of the team. Our mids and half forwards particularly Watts need to step up. ANB and Garlett are playing their roles. Stats show their pressure acts are elite. We need more cohesion going forward. 

Edited August 4, 2017 by praha

[Skuit 9,109]

1 hour ago, Dee tention said:

We only deserve finals if we are in the final 8 after Round 23.

Can we pin this post?