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3 hours ago, bobby1554 said:

So it would appear that we need to clear Tom McDonalds contract in order to get Brown? If that is the case, and now GWS showing interest in Jesse Hogan, it seems that Ben Brown to Dees is not going to happen. Which probably means he will end up at Essendon

Apparently not the case.

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3 hours ago, chook fowler said:

More important than the Smith trade imo 

Sure, but I'd argue Brown and a winger (or two) are absolute musts for us this off season.

Vanders, ANB, Brayshaw or Baker on a wing next year means we're stuffed.

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15 minutes ago, bobby1554 said:

What? That his contract is not a sticking point?

Correct, we can get him in and keep mcdonald. But i would guess that next year keeping Oliver would be harder and you don't want to be paying 600+ a year for a player to be in the VFL.

24 minutes ago, A F said:

Sure, but I'd argue Brown and a winger (or two) are absolute musts for us this off season.

Vanders, ANB, Brayshaw or Baker on a wing next year means we're stuffed.

I'm actually bullish on Baker as a winger (i was thinking if we got smith, that baker would be able to learn off him and replace him in 2-3 years time. I really like him regardless (just hasn't been played much).

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12 minutes ago, Wunders said:

Correct, we can get him in and keep mcdonald. But i would guess that next year keeping Oliver would be harder and you don't want to be paying 600+ a year for a player to be in the VFL.

I'm actually bullish on Baker as a winger (i was thinking if we got smith, that baker would be able to learn off him and replace him in 2-3 years time. I really like him regardless (just hasn't been played much).

Each to their own, mate. I'm not on the auto delist Baker train, but I don't want us to rely on him to hold down a wing spot next year.

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8 minutes ago, A F said:

Each to their own, mate. I'm not on the auto delist Baker train, but I don't want us to rely on him to hold down a wing spot next year.

Yea i don't actually know if he will be good on it. He could be [censored] if given the whole year there. Presuming we will go hard for Phillips now making it a moot point (but i'd hate it if Baker left to another club and then got a run at it and became something pretty good).

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11 minutes ago, Wunders said:

Yea i don't actually know if he will be good on it. He could be [censored] if given the whole year there. Presuming we will go hard for Phillips now making it a moot point (but i'd hate it if Baker left to another club and then got a run at it and became something pretty good).

As long as we get a decent winger to play opposite Langdon, it doesn't bother me what happens to Baker.

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1 hour ago, bobby1554 said:

What? That his contract is not a sticking point?

It has been posted on here more than once that getting Ben Brown is not dependant on moving on TMac. However it may impact future contract negotiations with others.

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1 hour ago, A F said:

Sure, but I'd argue Brown and a winger (or two) are absolute musts for us this off season.

Vanders, ANB, Brayshaw or Baker on a wing next year means we're stuffed.

I have hopes for Sauce Baker but I agree the others don’t inspire. I wonder if Rivers may develop on the wing.

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Recruiting Ben Brown is absolutely central to our fortunes next year and beyond. I’m not that fussed losing out on Smith in part because there are viable alternatives. We have no alternative to Brown. Hoges attitude issues appear to be too much of a risk (which is a pity, I’m a big fan), Cameron and Daniher are moving elsewhere so its Brown or bust.

I think playing the Burgess card is smart given his knee injury. I don’t see any “destination club” waiting in the long grass to gazump us ala Smith. I’m confident but I think this is one time I want to see the club pull out all the stops to get a player in. If Burgess has given him the all clear then give him a good salary and 4 years.

It’s rare a 28 yr old Coleman medallist comes on the market. Get this deal done MFC.

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Unless I am being told a porky, someone very close to Ben Brown has confirmed he's 100% to Dees. Bombers have offered him big big money, yet he's happy to take less to come to the Dees. Eat a ? bombers ?

Also apparently he played with a floating bone in his knee most of the year which would've been a big part of his performance drop this year. Since his surgery recently, he is ready to roll. 

Very exciting - sounds like he should return to strong form*

*as long as the Dees learn to kick inside 50 and don't bomb it over his head...

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1 minute ago, cooko said:

Unless I am being told a porky, someone very close to Ben Brown has confirmed he's 100% to Dees. Bombers have offered him big big money, yet he's happy to take less to come to the Dees. Eat a ? bombers ?

Also apparently he played with a floating bone in his knee most of the year which would've been a big part of his performance drop this year. Since his surgery recently, he is ready to roll. 

Very exciting - sounds like he should return to strong form*

*as long as the Dees learn to kick inside 50 and don't bomb it over his head...

Haha, eggplants suck.

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6 minutes ago, deebug said:

Hope so, can deals get done over the weekend, or is just during the week?

only Free Agency. Trade week doesn't actually start until Wednesday.

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8 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Like it Dazzle.

I want Weid to get stronger through the hips and core. Not necessarily put on more weight, just get stronger so that he doesn't get pushed off the ball as easily.

He has many good attributes that we underestimate, and is somewhat a confidence player. Presents well, gets to contests, can hold a grab (despite the naysayers) and knows where the cumbers are are around him. He knows his role, but must get stronger to improve it.

Also needs to nail more set shots.

All of these things are relatively simple to fix in the scheme of things, pending a big preseason.

I'm a Weid fan, so to speak...

I’d like Weideman to do all sorts of things, perhaps with another club! I’m doubting our investment in him will pay off. FWIW I would retain Tom while trying to get Brown . The Weid would be very tradeable 

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