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12 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

The DL head of recruiting tries to prove his case for excitementfor Brown  by showing highlights from 5 seasons ago. 

You are becoming tiresome.

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13 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Fragile petal. Bunch of lightweights. None of you would talk to people about footy the way you do in a public environment. And so fragile you cannot cope with those who are not as enthused about the person we intend to use our first pick on this year as you. 

Sounds more like a self assessment there.

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1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Ben Brown has only played 10 games out of 130 at the MCG with a win loss record of 6-4 and a return of 21 goals 13 behinds.

He has played 8 more games in Tasmania for a win loss record of 14-4 and a return of 35 goals 22 behinds which should help us when we have to play our yearly game there.

Even more worrying is that he was held goalless in his only appearance in Cairns.

Perhaps, but did he travel up on game day? If not then I think it's a bit unfair to judge him on it.

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1 hour ago, Wiseblood said:

KK wasn't about getting it wrong - I have no doubt he was a gamble and, when you think about it, we got him as a 'steak knives' addition to the May trade.

I think the club well and truly understood that we may never be able to get him right, and that for this price, it was worth the risk.

Totally disagree, we gave him a long term deal

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36 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Fragile petal. Bunch of lightweights. None of you would talk to people about footy the way you do in a public environment. And so fragile you cannot cope with those who are not as enthused about the person we intend to use our first pick on this year as you. 

Yeah, great. 

As for not being able to cope with those less enthused by things - I can cope, I'm just going to call you out on your endless drivel. It's pathetic.

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So yeah - I'm out. Disappointed that @Demonland didn't curtail the constant negative influences on this site during this season. Otherwise big respect to the moderators of this site. I just don't want it in my life anymore with all the pervasive [censored] and no facts rhetoric. Also big-ups to the many posters that fought for the truth to the end, and even those I battled with on a respectable basis over the years. No need to name names. When we win a flag, I would just be pissy and in vengeance mode on here anyway. Be well fellow travellers. 

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On 10/24/2020 at 5:07 PM, picket fence said:

Byron Pickett was one tough Hombre. Some of his hits were Brutal! Anyone got any handy footage?

Go to youtube                            Byron Pickett   Here comes the BOOM 

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9 minutes ago, Skuit said:

So yeah - I'm out. Disappointed that @Demonland didn't curtail the constant negative influences on this site during this season. Otherwise big respect to the moderators of this site. I just don't want it in my life anymore with all the pervasive [censored] and no facts rhetoric. Also big-ups to the many posters that fought for the truth to the end, and even those I battled with on a respectable basis over the years. No need to name names. When we win a flag, I would just be pissy and in vengeance mode on here anyway. Be well fellow travellers. 

Just block them mate.

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6 minutes ago, Skuit said:

So yeah - I'm out. Disappointed that @Demonland didn't curtail the constant negative influences on this site during this season. Otherwise big respect to the moderators of this site. I just don't want it in my life anymore with all the pervasive [censored] and no facts rhetoric. Also big-ups to the many posters that fought for the truth to the end, and even those I battled with on a respectable basis over the years. No need to name names. When we win a flag, I would just be pissy and in vengeance mode on here anyway. Be well fellow travellers. 

Yeah just block them bud

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7 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Yeah, get into cricket season where you can take your bat and ball home if things dont go your way Are you aware of the abuse I have copped just because I disagree with using our first pick on Ben brown

Don’t want to get between all of you, but we used our first pick on Kozzi last year.  Ben Brown will be a second rounder, or a combo of picks we get from a complex set of ins and outs.

Back to your normal interactions.....

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5 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

To be fair, whilst I don't agree with @DeeSpencer's overall view, the argument against taking Brown is clear and deserves consideration.

It will either see us go into 2021 with Brown, Weideman and Jackson in our forward line, or with one of Weideman and Jackson not playing.

If the former, can that forward line work? It's taller than both Geelong's and Richmond's (for example), and with the added risk that Brown, Weideman and Fritsch aren't good with pressure. 

If the latter, is that beneficial to our overall development? What's the point in taking Brown if we then can't/don't play Weideman? Or worse, it stifles Jackson's development?

IMO, it will result in the former: we'll play Brown as the stay-at-home forward with Weideman and Jackson roaming further up. Jackson's agility mean he's not a true tall anyway, and I think Weideman will be better when he's released from the pressure of being our only tall marking option. The impetus on the FD is to ensure that Brown, Weideman and Fritsch are all chasing, defending and tackling when we don't have the ball. I'd rather us back ourselves in to see those players improve their defensive/pressure games than assume they'll never improve.

But dismissing the argument against as simply "Brown kicks goals, we need goals, therefore we need Brown" is a bit shallow. It's a fair question to ask and debate to have.

You’re right but my question is, is Brown the best fwd we would have? I think yes so then it is a matter of who plays with him, I don’t care if it is 6 talls or 4 midgets. Whoever works as the best fwdline to win us a flag or 6. 
 

Just focus on a team that can win 1 premiership.

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15 minutes ago, Skuit said:

So yeah - I'm out. Disappointed that @Demonland didn't curtail the constant negative influences on this site during this season. Otherwise big respect to the moderators of this site. I just don't want it in my life anymore with all the pervasive [censored] and no facts rhetoric. Also big-ups to the many posters that fought for the truth to the end, and even those I battled with on a respectable basis over the years. No need to name names. When we win a flag, I would just be pissy and in vengeance mode on here anyway. Be well fellow travellers. 

S just put the posters that annoy the crap out of u on ignore mate then all good 

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19 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

What do you disagree with?  Your comment was on the medicos.  They would have known where he was at, especially with what Gus went through.  

You don't give a long term deal unless the medico's think there is a high likelihood of him playing, which they got completely wrong

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25 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Yeah, get into cricket season where you can take your bat and ball home if things dont go your way Are you aware of the abuse I have copped just because I disagree with using our first pick on Ben brown

Hff it’s not that you disagree it’s how you do it and not letting it go. You can make your point and then move on, yelling and yelling and yelling and yelling gets annoying. Maybe have a think about how to best get your points across without getting people [censored] off? Up to you though muscles.

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4 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Jesus that escalated, just block them, it makes things much better.

Or just don’t give a [censored]. 

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9 minutes ago, loges said:

Yeah just block them bud

 

12 minutes ago, A F said:

Just block them mate.

Appreciate the suggestion guys (and others). But have had enough. I support free speech but if Demonland doesn't want to shut down obvious trolls or deliberately destabilising influences because it drives traffic then I'm out. See you in the soup. And please keep up the good fight. Go Dees!

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@Skuit

One thing I've learned about Demonland is that Andy and co. can't keep people like HFF, Elegt, Olisik etc at bay because these types will always come back in another form.  It's the same on any forum.  They aren't really breaking any rules, even if they post with the skill of a monkey with half a brain most of the time.

Best thing to go is to stick them on ignore.  You cut out 90% of their contribution (with 10% taken up when someone quotes them) and you can focus on the wide array of diverse and interesting supporters that do frequent this site.  There are many of them, you included, and it's why I enjoy this site.

I hope you stick around, mate.  Don't let the others win.  Cheers.

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3 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

You don't give a long term deal unless the medico's think there is a high likelihood of him playing, which they got completely wrong

Did they?  You know this for sure, or just guessing?

From where I sit, I think they knew he would take time and, to take the pressure off, gave him a three year deal so he could work on getting himself right to play again.  He was able to do this, briefly, which suggests that he WAS ready to play, but took further knocks (which a medico can't predict) and hasn't been seen since.

Right now the three years looks a poor decision, but at the time it made sense (to me anyway).

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18 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

Don’t want to get between all of you, but we used our first pick on Kozzi last year.  Ben Brown will be a second rounder, or a combo of picks we get from a complex set of ins and outs.

Back to your normal interactions.....

And I think we need more Kozzis before a Ben Brown especially when we have TMac still around and Luke Jackson.

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5 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Did they?  You know this for sure, or just guessing?

From where I sit, I think they knew he would take time and, to take the pressure off, gave him a three year deal so he could work on getting himself right to play again.  He was able to do this, briefly, which suggests that he WAS ready to play, but took further knocks (which a medico can't predict) and hasn't been seen since.

Right now the three years looks a poor decision, but at the time it made sense (to me anyway).

Disagree with you again ... “We are confident his concussion issues are over ... "  Mahoney told SEN Breakfast. Seems like you're the one guessing

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