WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BEN BROWN

[ArtificialWisdom 3,844]

15 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

What’s your opinion on the thread topic please?

Pros: Deadeye Infront of goal, can pinch hit in the ruck. 

Cons: If he doesn't get a free kick or lace out delivery he is a liability, neither of which come in abundance at MFC. Would cost us the farm, the kitchen sink and perhaps some magic beans. If anyone thinks we overpaid for May or Lever then they'd probably have a brain aneurysm looking at any realistic trade for Brown

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

8 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

I'd rather give up pick 3 for Johnno Patton....

?

Patton is certainly a plan B or C but of course you wouldn’t entertain anything like pick 3 for him. How silly.

[nosoupforme 3,085]

Ben Brown at 26yo is worth more than  pick 3 in fact  l couldn't see the Roos parting with a multiple of 1st rounds. 

Maybe when Ben is 32yo and on his way out.

Moonshadow  suggested  J Patton as GWS have a habit of giving  bargains away.  He is worth a shot as a last minute special.

[Lamberto Bava 6]

This would be a diabolical decision by our club. This bloke is one poor landing away from having a career ending knee injury. This is one of the main reasons he wasn't drafted until he was 21 and until pick 47 in that draft. 

 

Also as some have mentioned already in this thread, better delivery into the forward line would need to be looked at before we go hunting for more key forwards for our midfield to miss. 

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

20 minutes ago, nosoupforme said:

Ben Brown at 26yo is worth more than  pick 3 in fact  l couldn't see the Roos parting with a multiple of 1st rounds. 

Maybe when Ben is 32yo and on his way out.

Moonshadow  suggested  J Patton as GWS have a habit of giving  bargains away.  He is worth a shot as a last minute special.

North are in an interesting position. They just sacked their coach, have an average list at best with some ageing leaders and are again going to finish in no-man’s land on the ladder. They face a similar prospect next year if they don’t make a few radical list management decisions. Getting in a new coach (Rhys Shaw or whoever) buys them some time to bottom out a bit to get the gun youngsters in necessary to do a proper rebuild and make their club relevant again. 

If we offer them pick 3 and our 2020 first rounder for Brown with say a second rounder coming back the other way, they will definitely look at it. We need to back ourselves in to rise up into the top 8 next season.

Its radical and it will frighten the naysayers and the conservatives, but both clubs - us and North - need to get on the front foot in the off season or face more years in the wilderness. Can we really have Dees supporters heading to the G in 2020 with NOTHING to get excited about in the forward 50? It doesn’t bear thinking about.

A deal can be done if we have the cojones to do it. I think a lot of our supporters are in denial about our situation. It’s dire. We’ve simply got to roll the dice.

Edited August 1, 2019 by Matsuo Basho

[Diamond_Jim 11,720]

54 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

It's not going to happen. I'd rather get Roughhead from Hawthorn on a one year playing  deal with a coaching gig tied in. He can spend the year teaching TMAC  and Weed proper forward craft. You can laugh and scoff at the idea., but it makes a lot of sense

that's definitely worth thinking about

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

1 hour ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

It's not going to happen. I'd rather get Roughhead from Hawthorn on a one year playing  deal with a coaching gig tied in. He can spend the year teaching TMAC  and Weed proper forward craft. You can laugh and scoff at the idea., but it makes a lot of sense

So we head to the G in 2020 to watch a geriatric Roughead trying to teach Weid how to mark a footy? How exciting.

Top eight here we come ?

Edited August 1, 2019 by Matsuo Basho

[dl4e 5,583]

Why is pick 3 being discussed. I thaught it would be pick 2.

[spirit of norm smith 12,884]

No. North would be ridiculously stupid to do this.  A 60-70 year goal kicker is hard to get. 

[rjay 23,884]

15 minutes ago, dl4e said:

Why is pick 3 being discussed. I thaught it would be pick 2.

...because he who has been away has decreed GC will get the PP (pick 2).

[Lord Nev 13,511]

1 hour ago, Matsuo Basho said:

If we offer them pick 3 and our 2020 first rounder for Brown with say a second rounder coming back the other way, they will definitely look at it. We need to back ourselves in to rise up into the top 8 next season.

We can't trade both this year's first rounder and next year's. We have to use one of them.

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

3 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

We can't trade both this year's first rounder and next year's. We have to use one of them.

That’s true. Pick 3 and a player then. Or pick 3 & 21. Where there’s a will there’s a way.

[Lord Nev 13,511]

Just now, Matsuo Basho said:

That’s true. Pick 3 and a player then. Or pick 3 & 21. Where there’s a will there’s a way.

So to clarify then, in another thread you're bemoaning our under 23 talent, but you want to now trade both our first round and second round picks for a player who will soon be 27? Doesn't add up mate.

[jumbo returns 6,486]

Is the PP a certainty?

[dazzledavey36 48,694]

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Not a bad idea at all

when did we last have a real Key Forward?

12 years

It’s time

Hogan in his first 2 years was our genuine key forward. Then after that he stopped crashing into packs and almost turned himself into a roaming 3rd tall in the Luke Bruest type.. 

Frustrated me that we changed his game style from a power forward to someone who wanted cheap joe the gooses.

In saying that I'd still take him back..

Edited August 1, 2019 by dazzledavey36

[Sir Why You Little 34,430]

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Hogan in his first 2 years was our genuine key forward. Then after that he stopped crashing into packs and almost turned himseld into a roaming 3rd tall in the Luke Bruest type.. 

Frustrated me that we changed his game style to a power forward to someone who wanted cheap joe the gooses.

In saying that I'd still take him back..

Hoges was a mobile forward played in the key position 

he was never comfortable there. 

I miss him too, but i would love a true key forward. 

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

3 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

So to clarify then, in another thread you're bemoaning our under 23 talent, but you want to now trade both our first round and second round picks for a player who will soon be 27? Doesn't add up mate.

Priorities. Without a proper avenue to goal we will be a basket case in 2020. 

Recruiting of youth is therefore going to have to be very sharp over the next three seasons. Not just from early picks but right throughout rounds 3 and 4 of drafts and into the rookie and preseason drafts as well. Taylor’s track record over five seasons is horrendous in this area. 

He will be gone by October. Pert is no dummy.

[Superunknown 3,307]

22 minutes ago, rjay said:

...because he who has been away has decreed GC will get the PP (pick 2).

That's unfair, a few people have similarly said this will happen

[Lord Nev 13,511]

3 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

He will be gone by October. Pert is no dummy.

No he won't.

Also; Hore, Lockhart, Hannan, J.Smith, ANB, vB, Hunt &  Harmes all say hi from post-pick 40 and our best 22.

 

[wizardinoz 2,015]

4 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

That's unfair, a few people have similarly said this will happen

That would be typical. We finish the season to qualify for pick 2 & end up facing a compromised draft to prop up the AFL's love child up north.

[In Harmes Way 7,486]

32 minutes ago, rjay said:

...because he who has been away has decreed GC will get the PP (pick 2).

I thought it would go to the Saints - perhaps we'll get pick 4 on this basis?

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8 minutes ago, In Harmes Way said:

I thought it would go to the Saints - perhaps we'll get pick 4 on this basis?

Where do the Saints fit into the equation?

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

22 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

No he won't.

Also; Hore, Lockhart, Hannan, J.Smith, ANB, vB, Hunt &  Harmes all say hi from post-pick 40 and our best 22.

 

*Cartwheels* ?

[Mental Demons 136]

This is unlikely to happen. We have to get past that "this guy will fix our problem" mentality. If North are willing to trade him I would suspect there is something wrong. Brown has not had a great season and is getting older. I believe he is on a long term contract. I do not believe we are able to trade our first round this season nor is it in our best interest. Matsuo seems to be just seeking attention and has too much time on his hands.

[chookrat 3,776]

3 hours ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

He is Norths best player. They won’t trade him for pick 3

Throw in Charlie Spargo as a sweetener, done deal!