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A Letter to Goodwin


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I can understand the frustration of some contributors, but good things come to those who wait.

Consider if Gawn went down in a year we thought we were ready to go the guts. We would have been gutted . Then when our designated second choice (was heir apparent until Gawn took off) also went down any side would be stuffed . No reflection on the efforts of Pedersen and Jack Watts & TMac but we are undersized especially under the new "No thrid man up" rule which has massively increased the role of the major ruckman.

What we have done is :

  • Develop copeing strategies by multi skilling some of our Mid-Talls i.e. Pedersen, Watts, TMac
  • Developed our developing midfield to work hard on working to a losing ruckmman (again no refelction on the above)
  • We had one of the most successful Premiership midfielders drop into our lap in Jordan Lewis. He will make the likes of Petracca, Oliver, Tyson , Billy Stretch ,ANB & Brayshaw terrific footballers.
  • Developing Watts and Hogan and McDonald as BIG mobile midfielders.
  • Been competitive but not quite winning despite some [censored] footy throughout some games.
  • Had the chance to develop OMac, Weiderman, Petracca, Salem, Wagner, Hunt, Frost, ANB,Billy Stretch,Hoges , Brayshaw,Oliver, Viney & Tyson (still developing players but with some glaring skill deficiencies. (Taking some licence with this as I would not be able to play as well as any of them)
  • Develop the mentality that arrogance brings.
  • Bedding down our defensive setup by increasing the development of our forwards defensive skills. (That is noticeable over the last couple of years)
  • I know these "shoulda/woulda" wins/losses  are frustrating, but if we had played the whole game against Hawthorn like we did in the first 1&1/2 quarters we would have been belted by 10 goals. (Hodge is still a great footballer and brings people together so give credit where it is due.) Instead we only lost by 3 points because Hawthorn's experience in those situations has meant they win more than they lose. We need to learn from that and I am sure the coaching staff would be showing that to our players.
  • When we gets all our eggs in the basket : LET THE DECADE OF ARROGANCE BEGIN
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1 hour ago, dimmy said:

I can understand the frustration of some contributors, but good things come to those who wait.

Consider if Gawn went down in a year we thought we were ready to go the guts. We would have been gutted . Then when our designated second choice (was heir apparent until Gawn took off) also went down any side would be stuffed . No reflection on the efforts of Pedersen and Jack Watts & TMac but we are undersized especially under the new "No thrid man up" rule which has massively increased the role of the major ruckman.

What we have done is :

 

  • Develop the mentality that arrogance brings.
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  • When we gets all our eggs in the basket : LET THE DECADE OF ARROGANCE BEGIN

 

Surely you mean confidence rather than arrogance. What mentality does arrogance bring that is positive or constructive? Amongst several synonyms for arrogance are 'conceit' and 'hubris', 

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1 minute ago, xarronn said:

 

Surely you mean confidence rather than arrogance. What mentality does arrogance bring that is positive or constructive? Amongst several synonyms for arrogance are 'conceit' and 'hubris', 

I mean the arrogance of Geelong at their peak and Hawthorn who refused to lower their standards. Point taken.

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dimmy,good things come to those who wait you say. I have waited 53 yrs for the dees to succeed,i could be a tad unlucky don't you think. Perhaps I should have a Newcastle EPL mentality,cannot seem to make the top 8 but are happy to "flounder" in the first division. Thank some human being for SHIRAZ.

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23 minutes ago, ENYAW said:

dimmy,good things come to those who wait you say. I have waited 53 yrs for the dees to succeed,i could be a tad unlucky don't you think. Perhaps I should have a Newcastle EPL mentality,cannot seem to make the top 8 but are happy to "flounder" in the first division. Thank some human being for SHIRAZ.

Amen to that ENYAW.

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The modern football environment includes such things as comparing a teams stats ( certain areas unknown ) against the last 4 premiers . 

We are ahead in all but two of these categories that we ( the dees ) are aware of . This is what the playing group focuses on . jordan lewis afl 360 

its so far removed from the language we here supporters use , insipid weak at times blah blah blah , its a tough game they Are all tough some more than others and thats a skill in istself . 

 

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They're over complicating a game. Then get bogged down or lost in the minutae.

Instinctive players wouldn't concern themselves with any of it as the inherently get what has to be done ( or not ) at any moment.

Players that need instructions by numbers are a waste of time imho. 

There's no time to think, just do.

Thats been shown time and time again.

KISS

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2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

They're over complicating a game. Then get bogged down or lost in the minutae.

Instinctive players wouldn't concern themselves with any of it as the inherently get what has to be done ( or not ) at any moment.

Players that need instructions by numbers are a waste of time imho. 

There's no time to think, just do.

Thats been shown time and time again.

KISS

Agreed. Play on instinct and understanding of team mates around you. 

A skill the MFC has always had trouble developing. 

Why do we still have 3-4 players flying for the same mark. 

Does anyone learn and retain knowledge from training and midweek reviews??

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Dear op

How did u like goodwins reply.

Dont let the door hit u on the way out mate...

GO DEMONS

 

Sorry..i meant the letter composer 

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So is this fella going to try and sticky tape his membership card back together??

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25 minutes ago, Luther said:

So is this fella going to try and sticky tape his membership card back together??

He's MCC member... even without an MFC card, he can go to any game he wants. But fair to say players and coach got the message... Did any of you tip Melbourne to win? didn't think so...

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8 minutes ago, Caligula's cohort said:

He's MCC member... even without an MFC card, he can go to any game he wants. But fair to say players and coach got the message... Did any of you tip Melbourne to win? didn't think so...

I'd really like to congratulate the letter writer and the multitude of posters in this thread who agreed with him. Without their great insight and advice we could not have won tonight.

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5 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

I'd really like to congratulate the letter writer and the multitude of posters in this thread who agreed with him. Without their great insight and advice we could not have won tonight.

No worries champ, hope you enjoyed the game. Just goes to show Melbourne can play that way every game... no excuses now... #realitycheck

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