A Letter to Goodwin

[Sir Why You Little 37,034]

5 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Agree 100%.

I think SEN and the Ox need take responsibility as he read it out on air and SEN released it and it is now posted all over the internet..  They should have removed JKH's name.  They would still have the headline without the name.  I am appalled that the Ox doesn't get the impact on a young man.

While I'm at it, I'm sick of our ex champions potting our team and our players in the search of headlines.  Garry did it yesterday and now the Ox.  Sure they have a job to do but they don't have to sink the boots in the way they do.  I don't hear other club's ex players in the media bag their club in the same way ours do. 

Criticise all you like Garry and Ox but be aware at how damaging your delivery is to our club and to the morale of supporters. 

Other clubs have not had the soft underbelly that the MFC has had for decades.

I love how The Ox and Garry are showing passion, 186 should have been the LAST TIME this picking and choosing when to play ever happened again

Yes SEN should have removed JKH's name.

[Deemented Are Go! 3,677]

Pathetic. Don't come back. 

 

[mo64 5,874]

3 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Agree 100%.

I think SEN and the Ox need take responsibility as he read it out on air and SEN released it and it is now posted all over the internet..  They should have removed JKH's name.  They would still have the headline without the name.  I am appalled that the Ox doesn't get the impact on a young man.

While I'm at it I'm sick of our ex champions potting our team and our players in the search of headlines.  Garry did it yesterday and now the Ox.  Sure they have a job to do but they don't have to sink the boots in the way they do.  I don't hear other club's ex players in the media bag their club in the same way ours do. 

Criticise all you like Garry and Ox but be aware at how damaging your delivery is to our club and to the morale of supporters. 

Seriously LH? Ex champions, telling it how it is doesn't damage my morale, and if it damages the club, then the club is more mentally weak than what I imagined.

It's the FD and players that damage my morale, not what the media has to say. But then again, I've become indoctrinated to disappointment over the past 10 years.

[Deeoldfart 8,028]

Each and every one of us here has been variously frustrated, gutted and everything in between, by the performances of our team over the journey (some have had to endure the pain and heartache much longer than others) but as true supporters, we know that the Melbourne Football Club is in our blood, rain, hail or shine,  The author of this letter is not and was never a true supporter ....... but he / she is most definitely an attention seeker of the highest order.  Bit sad really!

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

14 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Agree 100%.

I think SEN and the Ox need take responsibility as he read it out on air and SEN released it and it is now posted all over the internet..  They should have removed JKH's name.  They would still have the headline without the name.  I am appalled that the Ox doesn't get the impact on a young man.

While I'm at it I'm sick of our ex champions potting our team and our players in the search of headlines.  Garry did it yesterday and now the Ox.  Sure they have a job to do but they don't have to sink the boots in the way they do.  I don't hear other club's ex players in the media bag their club in the same way ours do. 

Criticise all you like Garry and Ox but be aware at how damaging your delivery is to our club and to the morale of supporters. 

Yeah not right naming the player, Ox should know better  but the sinking boots into the club  is appropropriate.  Someone has to back us into a corner. That's where fightbacks start from. Supporters are just sick of pathetic performances when we are favoured to win.  It's not the two recent examples but a plague carried on from last couple of seasons cruelty iced with putrid last two rounds in 2016. We have played some good  footy but just when we seem to make the next step we come crashing down. The Bulldogs took two seasons after a club meltdown to become great and we are into our 7th or 8th season already and looking at best middle of the road wannabe's.

Edited May 9, 2017 by america de cali

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

3 minutes ago, Wolfmother said:

What!!!!

 

Demonland isn't a closed group so everything on here is in the open forum. What's the difference between bagging a player on here or on social media???? 

While very true and a good point

The reality is no one reads demonlamd. Radio and now social media is a lot more public 

 

Hence my stance on unwarrabred public ridicule of a jnr player. - thats more aimed at sen

 

Edited May 9, 2017 by Unleash Hell

[—coach— 3,496]

2 hours ago, Gawn's Beard said:

"I'm not proud of this club and the excuses and promises after every loss".

 

As a supporter, I am not proud that one of our so called supporters would jump ship 7 games into the season (and chop up his membership), and blame the loss squarely at the feet of a coach 7 games into his tenure. 

After the last 10 years we've endured, and comparing where we are now as a club to then, I hardly think now is the time to be chucking a tantrum! 

I recall that Al Clarkson also took a beating from fans, public and his own president just prior to them winning a shiteload of premierships?! Go dees!

[Sir Why You Little 37,034]

SEN and Demonland would be on a par for Ratings I reckon

I heard some of Hamish this morning, it was just so bad....

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

2 minutes ago, --coach-- said:

I recall that Al Clarkson also took a beating from fans, public and his own president just prior to them winning a shiteload of premierships?! Go dees!

That's what a jolly good flogging from the fans does as BBO says.

Edited May 9, 2017 by america de cali

[Grand New Flag 3,227]

To this supporter.

Go away, change teams, we don't want your support. We the membership of the MFC are better than this. It is baseless, pointless, valueless dribble.

We all hurt when we keep losing from winnable positions. But remember we are playing the youngest team every week. It will click. The wins will come. Show some respect and enjoy the journey.

I suggest this supporter takes up membership with Richmond where he/she will be more suited and amongst their own kind.

[The heart beats true 18,123]

 A non story about an adolescent minded 'supporter' from an irrelevant network washed down with one of my favourite former players becoming just another grubby headline chaser. 

Im not angry Ox. I'm just disappointed.

[Ted Lasso 19,513]

Christ they could do 40 stories like this every time Richmond loses a game 

[Wolfmother 182]

While I don't agree with the contents of the letter, I'm actually happy about it. 

 

For too long a Melbourne loss was a shrug of the shoulders, an oh well they tried. It's about time more was demanded from this club and unacceptable performances are put under the microscope. 

[ignition. 1,466]

Certainly a reader of demonland. 

The open few lines on JKH has come straight from this site.

[Sir Why You Little 37,034]

1 minute ago, Wolfmother said:

While I don't agree with the contents of the letter, I'm actually happy about it. 

 

For too long a Melbourne loss was a shrug of the shoulders, an oh well they tried. It's about time more was demanded from this club and unacceptable performances are put under the microscope. 

Agreed. The MFC has never hurt enough and said "No F....ing More"....

[Young Blood 2,620]

If Hawthorn played terribly and we lost this game then I could understand all the pissing and moaning from this guy who wrote the letter and other posters on here.

But they shut our running game down for three quarters, they got numbers around the contest and forced us to handball into difficult positions and they put defenders in front of areas where the forwards could not lead forcing us to bomb it in. Offensively they changed their usual short kicking game to kick long down the line where they trusted their contested marking and it payed off. 

Yes Dees came out flat and should have played better in the first half. But Hawthorn were a superior side on the day.

 

[old dee 23,788]

2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Agreed. The MFC has never hurt enough and said "No F....ing More"....

I agree with You and wolfmother.

For decades we have meekly accept mediocrity and we still are.

while I don't propose similar action I understand his pain.

[Jaded No More 68,913]

Fancy living through the last 8 years and losing your [censored] after a 3 point loss to Hawthorn... bit late to the crazy party mate  

Edited May 9, 2017 by Jaded

[Dr. Mubutu 851]

12 minutes ago, Wolfmother said:

What!!!!

 

Demonland isn't a closed group so everything on here is in the open forum. What's the difference between bagging a player on here or on social media???? 

The difference is basically that the author of this letter specifically delivered it to somebody in the media. They knew it would get a reaction (and, surprising nobody, it's blown up).

As much as we like to think differently, Demonland is, a lot of the time, screaming into a void which is populated solely by Dees fans. The audience is significantly different. It's easier to ignore something on a fringe internet forum than something repeated on by the traditional media.

I'm in Queensland, so I can't vouch for the coverage of SEN, but I've seen this article on Facebook and Twitter, and not just from other Melbourne supporters.

So while the feeling behind the message is similar, I think the intent was certainly very different.

(And FWIW, I agree with the majority that if you didn't jump off after the last 10 years, you've got some strange standards at play.)

[Adzman 2,154]

I think sometimes we demons supporters just need to take a good hard look in the mirror and say "at least we don't follow St Kilda"

One flag in over 100 years of footy. At least we aren't them! 

[old dee 23,788]

6 minutes ago, ignition. said:

Certainly a reader of demonland. 

The open few lines on JKH has come straight from this site.

So that makes his JKH comment wrong?

Rubbish he is spot on re JKH

[Young Blood 2,620]

 

The club said "No F....ing More" when they hired Paul Roos on big money and turned the whole club around in a few years to be at the stage we are at now. A young talented but inconsistent side that has a lot to improve on. 

I'd be saying those sorts of things if I was a Richmond supporter....

Edited May 9, 2017 by mongrel

[Biffen 12,943]

The games lost by a kick or two are more painful than a Prince Albert.

JKH needs to hear it,Goodwin needs to hear it.But not on a radio show.

The guy has the right to lose his Sh!t as a paying member.

Not sure OX should be giving these emotionally unstable people too much oxygen.

Hopefully JKH hears it and improves .He is old enough to cope and Goodwin will dismiss the guy as a peanut but deep down know that he lost it at selection once again .

[old dee 23,788]

1 minute ago, Jaded said:

Fancy living through the last 8 years and losing your [censored] after a 3 point loss to Hawthorn 

It is the cumulative effect Jaded.

[mo64 5,874]

1 minute ago, Adzman said:

I think sometimes we demons supporters just need to take a good hard look in the mirror and say "at least we don't follow St Kilda"

One flag in over 100 years of footy. At least we aren't them! 

Adz, how many flags have you enjoyed?