POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 6

[beelzebub 23,364]

4 minutes ago, pineapple dee said:

What was perhaps the most impressive aspect of the game was the smoothers, the two of which Frost pulled off were superb. That shows intent like nothing else.

Heppell came off well and truly 2nd best also. Bonus

Was actually surprised Heppell stayed on. Was almost one of those unlucky 'breaks'

Hes a conscientious lad is Sam. Hope he continues along and up this path.

Edited May 1, 2017 by beelzebub

[Coq au vin 755]

2 hours ago, pineapple dee said:

You've gotta love Bomberblitz. Great light entertainment especially after a loss to the dees. My favourite quote from yesterday.........  "Zaharakis is like a one trick pony who's forgotten the trick."

Or this gem: ' Petracca would eat his own excrement and enjoy it.'

[Jaded No More 68,913]

1 hour ago, Nasher said:

On that note, Salem has been excellent this year. "Get more of the ball please" was my request last year, so far he's only had one sub-20 possession game. He's very trustworthy with ball in hand. Coming along very nicely now.

Amazing what having an injury-free pre season can do to a man! 

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

16 hours ago, Watts Jurrah Dunn? said:

Massive mistake, wasn't it!?  Let's hope we don't miss the 8 by a game or two.  Got it wrong with Weideman, who should have to kick consecutive bags of goals for a month at Casey before he displaces Pedersen.  Heck, I'd have even preferred an undersized Pedersen to Spencer!

Pedo is a mature body, gives a contest, can play anywhere, and he's one of those battlers that is always playing for his AFL life so of course he's going to give 100%.  I wonder why Goodwin had his card marked so early?

Not sure it was Goodwin. Possibly  hangover "group think" in the Wake of the Roos era. Alternatively Macca, who had huge crush on Weids from last year. Speculation but might have gone in to bat a little too hard too early on the " Weids is gonna be a gun",  lets play him now (over Pedders) argument with the coaching crew.  A huge mistake if so.

I agree with OD here,  the decision to keep playing Weids (in blind faith even when not performing) and overlook Pedders may have cost us one or more games this year and might even cost us a place in the finals.

[beelzebub 23,364]

I know we have to blood and develop players. The era of vision only at the future must surely be behind us. Need more 'now' players playing. Those who come along will get games, when required,when needed.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,754]

1 minute ago, Rusty Nails said:

Not sure it was Goodwin. Possibly  hangover "group think" in the Wake of the Roos era. Alternatively Macca, who had huge crush on Weids from last year. Speculation but might have gone in to bat a little too hard too early on the " Weids is gonna be a gun",  lets play him now (over Pedders) argument with the coaching crew.  A huge mistake if so.

I agree with OD here,  the decision to keep playing Weids (in blind faith even when not performing) and overlook Pedders may have cost us one or more games this year and might even cost us a place in the finals.

It's a good question whether it's better to get games into Weideman for the future or whether we would benefit more from playing one or possibly more finals. If you'd said "might even cost us a place in the top four", then I think there's no argument and we should be playing Pedersen instead of the Weid. Where we are at? It's a tougher choice and I don't know which is the correct answer.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

2 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Yea but I still think O mac will be very good in 2 years and Howe was tad  lazy.

Just play whoever the best "in form" player is at the time for the role required deever and let the rest look after itself. Howe has hardly missed a game for the Pies since crossing and is usually in their best defenders every week. Dunn kept Hawkins quiet yesterday.  I highly doubt our match committee would even consider risking O-Mac on that match up, although nothing would surprise me at times. I would happily take either of these defenders over Melksham & O-Mac at this point.

[What 18,810]

Just saw the footage of Joe Daniher hugging and smiling a very uncomfortable looking  Hibberd as the ball was about to be bounced.  Cringed so hard. It was almost as cringey as his reaction to finally kicking a goal.

Daniher has the brain of a child. If he played for Melbourne we would be tearing him apart for his body language.

Edited May 1, 2017 by Petraccattack

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

20 hours ago, Webber said:

I thought this might be the game after which Demonland gave rightful praise to Tom McDonald. I now realise that's never going to happen. Those people who continually (zzzzzzzzzzz........) criticise him for his imperfections are clearly unaware that the football world at large sees him as one of our most important players, our most important backmen, and one of the league's best. He got media votes today, but still gets shamelessly and pathetically pilloried on Demonland. 

Demonland likes to point out the obvious and then discuss ad nauseum.

You get used to it after a while

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

27 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

It's a good question whether it's better to get games into Weideman for the future or whether we would benefit more from playing one or possibly more finals. If you'd said "might even cost us a place in the top four", then I think there's no argument and we should be playing Pedersen instead of the Weid. Where we are at? It's a tougher choice and I don't know which is the correct answer.

Again just play whoever is the best "in form" player for a similar role La D. Ignore the name and the "potential" tag.  Michael Tuck took a number of seasons plus 50 games in the twos before finally cementing a regular place with the Hawks during their first mighty era as you probably know.

[DubDee 25,854]

Great to beat the cheats.  their arrogance knows no bounds and they would have been expecting a win and to make finals this year

ive got news for Bombers fans - you are rubbish and will probably finish bottom four.  the teams they have beaten are poor, non-finals contenders

it was so sweet to stand on the ground level and watch them all leave in the last quarter crushed.

[Lucifers Hero 39,758]

In the Match Preview thread I suggested a creative ruck solution might be to have different ruckman for the 3 parts of the ground (front, middle, back) to share the load and to wear out Bellchambers as he hadn't played for 18 months.  It seems that is how it came to panned out:  Pedersen:  "We planned really well for it. We kind of threw three ruckmen at him knowing he hadn't played for 700 days or something," http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-05-01/hungry-pedersen-fills-dees-ruck-void  The 62-gamer paid tribute to the support he received from Tom McDonald and Jack Watts in restricting Bellchambers' influence. 

 

On a different note, there is an interesting insight into our game plan to rove to Bellchambers.  "My focus was just to try and jump into him and limit his hits and try and ensure he could only hit inside a certain triangle that we could defend,"  (Hope Pedersen isn't giving too much info away there...) Very clever stoppage planning by the coaches carried out to perfection by our guys.

[beelzebub 23,364]

4 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

In the Match Preview thread I suggested a creative ruck solution might be to have different ruckman for the 3 parts of the ground (front, middle, back) to share the load and to wear out Bellchambers as he hadn't played for 18 months.  It seems that is how it came to panned out:  Pedersen:  "We planned really well for it. We kind of threw three ruckmen at him knowing he hadn't played for 700 days or something," http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-05-01/hungry-pedersen-fills-dees-ruck-void  The 62-gamer paid tribute to the support he received from Tom McDonald and Jack Watts in restricting Bellchambers' influence. 

 

On a different note, there is an interesting insight into our game plan to rove to Bellchambers.  "My focus was just to try and jump into him and limit his hits and try and ensure he could only hit inside a certain triangle that we could defend,"  (Hope Pedersen isn't giving too much info away there...) Very clever stoppage planning by the coaches carried out to perfection by our guys.

Common sense prevailed.

Really, was only logical way to go about it and he/we did that aspect quite well.

Good on us

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31 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Great to beat the cheats.  their arrogance knows no bounds and they would have been expecting a win and to make finals this year

ive got news for Bombers fans - you are rubbish and will probably finish bottom four.  the teams they have beaten are poor, non-finals contenders

it was so sweet to stand on the ground level and watch them all leave in the last quarter crushed.

It was annoying how they still had the stupid Essendon flashing signs rocketing around the borders of the inside of the stadium long after they had left the ground and the Melbourne players were still out there.

[beelzebub 23,364]

9 minutes ago, Diamond said:

It was annoying how they still had the stupid Essendon flashing signs rocketing around the borders of the inside of the stadium long after they had left the ground and the Melbourne players were still out there.

The guy in charge had probably already left . About a dozen Essfans upped and left near us...10 mins into last qtr lol

[Deemented Are Go! 3,677]

1 hour ago, Petraccattack said:

Just saw the footage of Joe Daniher hugging and smiling a very uncomfortable looking  Hibberd as the ball was about to be bounced.  Cringed so hard. It was almost as cringey as his reaction to finally kicking a goal.

Daniher has the brain of a child. If he played for Melbourne we would be tearing him apart for his body language.

Yeah just saw that too. Just....weird. ?

He's like a Labrador with a learning disability or something. 

Not a good look. 

[What 18,810]

All 17 goals

 

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2017-05-01/rd-6-all-the-goals

[beelzebub 23,364]

A bit of an aside, skirting around the edges as it were, literally, anyone else notice how many players lost their feet near the boundary line ?

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

My Essendon neighbour who is always glad to talk footy artfully avoided me this morning when I saw him out on the street. Ducked inside real quick. Said Daniher will kick another six against us. 

[Dante 2,739]

7 minutes ago, america de cali said:

My Essendon neighbour who is always glad to talk footy artfully avoided me this morning when I saw him out on the street. Ducked inside real quick. Said Daniher will kick another six against us. 

He did.

[beelzebub 23,364]

2 minutes ago, Dante said:

He did.

GOLD !!!!!!!!!!!! crack up

[DubDee 25,854]

someone grab a white marker and draw a   0.  on the back of Daniher's jersey (on the left side)

i think it would look lovely

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

7 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

GOLD !!!!!!!!!!!! crack up

I read somewhere that the expression 'kick it six' was a military term for six months in the slammer then booted out of the army.

Edited May 1, 2017 by america de cali

[Sir Why You Little 37,034]

1 hour ago, Petraccattack said:

All 17 goals

 

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2017-05-01/rd-6-all-the-goals

Thanks so much for that...

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43 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

A bit of an aside, skirting around the edges as it were, literally, anyone else notice how many players lost their feet near the boundary line ?

The 'carpet' between boundary and fence,  and the closeness of the fence is unsafe. There needs to be some way of softening the fence yet tolerating advertising. Every week someone crashes into the fence. Someone will have a major injury.... in a ground that will be owned by the AFL.