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6 hours ago, hardtack said:

It's extremely unfair of you to apply your circumstances and how you dealt with it, as everybody handles these things differently.  There is no benchmark for dealing with tragedy.

Not to mention dense and completely lacking logic or empathy.

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I just hate seeing the Melbourne Football Club in the media for the wrong reasons!.  That's all I want to say on the matter.

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4 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

Don't like seeing this but it's not the end of the world. As long as he comes back in good form ready to repay the club then it's a minor indiscretion. He's obviously going through a tough period with his fathers illness and having a cigarette isn't the end of the world. If it becomes habit then that's obviously a different matter. You'd think in this day and age though players would be smarter. They are educated better than ever and given more assistance too. 

Hopefully he comes back and has a ripping season as repayment. The 2 weeks off give him time to get over any niggles he may have had so there are no excuses not to perform to a higher standard this year. I expect him to break the 50 goal mark this year and will be disappointed if he doesn't. 

It's only that if he's under strict instructions from the club not to smoke. Otherwise it's a bad habit rather than a minor indiscretion.

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It's not a good look, but I run a bar in Sydney and we have Swans and Giants players in getting smashed and smoking out the front regularly. Have to say it doesn't seem to affect their performances very often

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11 minutes ago, MrReims said:

It's not a good look, but I run a bar in Sydney and we have Swans and Giants players in getting smashed and smoking out the front regularly. Have to say it doesn't seem to affect their performances very often

Care to name names? I cannot believe in this day and age of accurate knowledge on the effects of smoking on the body that professional footballers much less any sportsman would smoke. Putting on my old Phys Ed Teachers hat,

Smoking is well-documented as a serious hazard to your health. It is also a serious hindrance to athletic performance, as it inhibits oxygen supply to your brain, heart and muscles. In addition, smoking decreases your body's capacity to heal, weakens your skeleton and raises your blood pressure. Athletes who smoke have less endurance, are weaker and suffer more injuries than their nonsmoking competitors.

Pulmonary Effects

Smoking has a pronounced effect on available oxygen in the body. The nicotine in cigarette smoke causes constriction of the bronchioles, which decreases the amount of oxygen that can enter the lungs. At the same time, nicotine constricts the blood vessels, decreasing the amount of blood flowing to the lungs. In addition, the smoke itself irritates the lungs, causing further bronchoconstriction. Carbon monoxide from smoke binds to hemoglobin, which would normally bind to oxygen, further decreasing the amount of oxygen the bloodstream.

Cardiovascular Effects

Smoking also limits cardiovascular performance. The heart depends on oxygen to function and, when oxygen levels are reduced, the heart is compromised. Nicotine's constriction of the blood vessels raises blood pressure and adds to the workload of the heart. Thus, athletes who smoke become fatigued faster than those who do not.

Musculoskeletal Effects

Smoking negatively affects the muscles and bones as well. During athletic activities, muscles need a constant supply of oxygen to perform. Smoking decreases the amount of blood flowing to the muscles. In addition, smoking lowers the amount of oxygen in the blood, further decreasing the muscles' ability to generate additional energy for movement.

Smoking increases a person's risk for osteoporosis. This effect is amplified in female athletes who already have a predisposition for osteoporosis. As the skeleton becomes more fragile, athletic activities become more dangerous due to risk of bone fracture.

Effects on Healing

Smoking causes the release of enzymes that break down collagen, a protein in skin and connective tissue. In addition, smoking slows the synthesis of collagen, which is necessary for healing. When tendons, ligaments or bones are injured, collagen fibers are integral to the healing process. Athletes who smoke will heal more slowly than nonsmoking athletes.

Long-term Effects

Smoking has immediate effects on athletic performance, but there are also long-term effects. Smoking causes lung cancer, emphysema, chronic bronchitis and asthma. These severe respiratory conditions can permanently end your athletic activities.

I would imagine the club would have explained these fact to players and given the professionalism expected If I were Goody I would not be at all impressed. But I have been known to be wrong!

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27 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Care to name names? I cannot believe in this day and age of accurate knowledge on the effects of smoking on the body that professional footballers much less any sportsman would smoke. Putting on my old Phys Ed Teachers hat,

Smoking is well-documented as a serious hazard to your health. It is also a serious hindrance to athletic performance, as it inhibits oxygen supply to your brain, heart and muscles. In addition, smoking decreases your body's capacity to heal, weakens your skeleton and raises your blood pressure. Athletes who smoke have less endurance, are weaker and suffer more injuries than their nonsmoking competitors.

Pulmonary Effects

Smoking has a pronounced effect on available oxygen in the body. The nicotine in cigarette smoke causes constriction of the bronchioles, which decreases the amount of oxygen that can enter the lungs. At the same time, nicotine constricts the blood vessels, decreasing the amount of blood flowing to the lungs. In addition, the smoke itself irritates the lungs, causing further bronchoconstriction. Carbon monoxide from smoke binds to hemoglobin, which would normally bind to oxygen, further decreasing the amount of oxygen the bloodstream.

Cardiovascular Effects

Smoking also limits cardiovascular performance. The heart depends on oxygen to function and, when oxygen levels are reduced, the heart is compromised. Nicotine's constriction of the blood vessels raises blood pressure and adds to the workload of the heart. Thus, athletes who smoke become fatigued faster than those who do not.

Musculoskeletal Effects

Smoking negatively affects the muscles and bones as well. During athletic activities, muscles need a constant supply of oxygen to perform. Smoking decreases the amount of blood flowing to the muscles. In addition, smoking lowers the amount of oxygen in the blood, further decreasing the muscles' ability to generate additional energy for movement.

Smoking increases a person's risk for osteoporosis. This effect is amplified in female athletes who already have a predisposition for osteoporosis. As the skeleton becomes more fragile, athletic activities become more dangerous due to risk of bone fracture.

Effects on Healing

Smoking causes the release of enzymes that break down collagen, a protein in skin and connective tissue. In addition, smoking slows the synthesis of collagen, which is necessary for healing. When tendons, ligaments or bones are injured, collagen fibers are integral to the healing process. Athletes who smoke will heal more slowly than nonsmoking athletes.

Long-term Effects

Smoking has immediate effects on athletic performance, but there are also long-term effects. Smoking causes lung cancer, emphysema, chronic bronchitis and asthma. These severe respiratory conditions can permanently end your athletic activities.

I would imagine the club would have explained these fact to players and given the professionalism expected If I were Goody I would not be at all impressed. But I have been known to be wrong!

Not just an AFL footballers vice. Billions of dollars worth of talent here ruined by the darts.

http://footballburp.com/lists/24-pictures-of-top-footballers-smoking/

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30 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Care to name names? I cannot believe in this day and age of accurate knowledge on the effects of smoking on the body that professional footballers much less any sportsman would smoke. Putting on my old Phys Ed Teachers hat,

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I would imagine the club would have explained these fact to players and given the professionalism expected If I were Goody I would not be at all impressed. But I have been known to be wrong!

Well said. However, we should hardly be surprised that some sports people smoke. Apparently some also take drugs and drink too much alcohol, too.

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9 hours ago, Luther said:

Just because a festival is sold out, doesn't mean it's difficult to get tickets at the last second. Jesse probably had a mate who had a spare one, or picked one up off FB. To infer that he'd planned to go to this festival on a day when he should have been playing against Geelong in Melbourne, before the fact, is ridiculous.

People honestly need their heads read. Yep, a young guy on a few hundred grand a year, a young footy player no less, is gonna have trouble getting a ticket to a music festival. 

If people seriously believe he bought a ticket in advance and suspended himself on purpose then you need to go see a shrink

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It's about time someone thought of the poor old Funeral Director and the industries that are supported by them. With every near-do-well and wowzer  on health kicks and cleanses these days, the funeral industry suffers and the effects are real and flow through the industry like a ripple effect. I say congratulations to Jesse and his support to the struggling funeral industry. Good work young man.

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1 minute ago, Strapping Young Lad said:

It's about time someone thought of the poor old Funeral Director and the industries that are supported by them. With every near-do-well and wowzer  on health kicks and cleanses these days, the funeral industry suffers and the effects are real and flow through the industry like a ripple effect. I say congratulations to Jesse and his support to the struggling funeral industry. Good work young man.

and blessed are the ashtray makers

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To borrow the classic mum and dad line, "I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed." 

Getting himself suspended for a really stupid act is the first part of this, the second is the club has allowed him to return home for a stint to be with friends and family, this was a good move from the club as it's a good opportunity for him to combat any homesickness he might have. But I feel his actions, while not by any means hangable, are a poor reflection on his attitude to being suspended. 

Its a punishment for himself and it has proven to be a punishment for the team as there is no doubt he was sourly missed on Saturday. I don't expect him to sit around the house knitting with his mum, or go to church and pray for forgiveness, but this simply isn't a good look for a guy that we just can't seem to keeep out of media speculation. 

Externally there doesn't need to be any punishment played out in the media, but internally he should be given a stiff kick up the bum. 

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sometimes where there's smoke

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There's just......smoke

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