Welcome to Demonland: Jake Lever

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13 hours ago, Watts Jurrah Dunn? said:

Paul Connors spoke at an Old Xavs golf day yesterday and said Lever will be a Demon, and he will be the highest paid player at the club.

He also specifically mentioned that it is a very interesting move as he manages Petracca who, next year, might be asking for similar money. 

Scully was the highest paid player at GWS and they seemed to have retained much of their required talent.

If true, this just needs to be managed well internally. Lever is an obvious player for a club like ours to break the budget on. I suspect the players understand this.

Howe and Lumumba trades aside, our list management and recruitment strategy seems extremely good these days.

 

 

Edited September 12, 2017 by Ron Burgundy

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11 hours ago, McQueen said:

That's a bit unprofessional I would've thought.

Are you taking the pizz?

Would be flabbergasted if Connors would say that stuff publicly. 

And there would be some players seeking new management.

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31 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

Would be flabbergasted if Connors would say that stuff publicly. 

And there would be some players seeking new management.

Connors can say what he likes - he isn't Lever's manager.

 

 

[Yokozuna 1,004]

well, i have mail (from 2 sources in and around the club mind you) and they are very confident Lever will be in the red and blue next season.

and for those worrying about his pay and being the highest paid at the club, you need to spend some money to improve, and 800k in a couple of years wont be seen as a huge salary anyway. and who else is demanding all our money anyway???

according to some on here, we have depth issues and not enough players, so we can afford to pay him more to get him here while we are paying the younger/ less talented players less at the moment.

If you dont want Lever for 800k a season in our side, i guess you are happy with us being in the middle of the ladder every year?

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14 hours ago, Watts Jurrah Dunn? said:

Paul Connors spoke at an Old Xavs golf day yesterday and said Lever will be a Demon, and he will be the highest paid player at the club.

 

Next time you see Paul please tell him to stop reading Demonland and he needs to get his own rumors. (LOL)

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Was driving home last night and had SEN on the radio, OX and i think the guys name is Marco? Were both saying that players from both the hawks and cats took pay cuts for the side to stay together and win flags. OX said it's what good sides do, so if we want a flag/flags the club will need to work all this out, which I'm sure Jackson- Bartlett will be doing and doing well.

Yokozuna is right if people don't want the club to pay Lever the big $$$ then we will just be a side who one will not win a flag and two we will lose players to other clubs because these days players have been given a choice to go to the club who will be prepared to pay top $$$ for them.

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46 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Connors can say what he likes - he isn't Lever's manager.

 

 

Only slightly relevant. 

I don't think the players as a collective would be too impressed with managers carrying on like this. 

Can't see anything to gain by Connors doing that. 

Which is why I find the report pretty dubious.

Edited September 13, 2017 by Stretch Johnson

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36 minutes ago, deebug said:

Was driving home last night and had SEN on the radio, OX and i think the guys name is Marco? Were both saying that players from both the hawks and cats took pay cuts for the side to stay together and win flags. OX said it's what good sides do, so if we want a flag/flags the club will need to work all this out, which I'm sure Jackson- Bartlett will be doing and doing well.

Yokozuna is right if people don't want the club to pay Lever the big $$$ then we will just be a side who one will not win a flag and two we will lose players to other clubs because these days players have been given a choice to go to the club who will be prepared to pay top $$$ for them.

I agree with you and what you've said.

Couple of points i think needs to be considered 

First you need the list to win flags before you worry about payments.

800k if rumored is correct is not massive in todays terms.

And lastly as a supporter i love hearing all the good (albeit unconfirmed news), but im not sure i like how public this lever news is with so long to go in the season. Things change quickly in afl

Edited September 13, 2017 by Unleash Hell

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3 hours ago, KingDingAling said:

If I were Kelly and heard Lever was coming to MFC, I would take unders to come here. If Kelly and Lever were to come to the club - we would be a dynasty side.

Dynasty side like GWS were going to be? A [censored] tonne of hard work and structural and system adjustments still need to occur. Other coaches like Clarko, Longmire and a few others will still be on the edge looking to redefine and innovate how footy is played. All the while we'te only finding out whether Goody can coach these next two years.

Edited September 13, 2017 by Wrecked Owl Dees Function

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Connors is no steal trap. I have heard him talk at a function before.

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$800k for a star CHB (who could probably swing just as well as TMac) is very good. The CBA has exploded and if that is where we can keep our best players at - we would be happy. 

Those worried about Petracca suddenly asking for that much - he was going to get that much anyway. If we were paying these guys Dusty Money - we might have an issue, but we aren't.

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4 minutes ago, rpfc said:

$800k for a star CHB (who could probably swing just as well as TMac) is very good. The CBA has exploded and if that is where we can keep our best players at - we would be happy. 

Those worried about Petracca suddenly asking for that much - he was going to get that much anyway. If we were paying these guys Dusty Money - we might have an issue, but we aren't.

Yep. 800k under the new deal is = to about 650k under the old one. Very fair $$$ for lever and trac especially considering both will keep improving 

[Grimes Times 1,278]

take this however you want

https://twitter.com/rickynixontoot

Lever - Melb makes offer Crows counter with similar - manager told Melb Pies, Dogs he was staying Dad moving over then BANG 900 Demons gone

Edited September 13, 2017 by Grimes Times

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6 minutes ago, Grimes Times said:

take this however you want

https://twitter.com/rickynixontoot

Lever - Melb makes offer Crows counter with similar - manager told Melb Pies, Dogs he was staying Dad moving over then BANG 900 Demons gone

So is he staying or going? Or is this one of Nixon's drunken rants?

[Vogon Poetry 2,095]

What you need to remember is we have effectively probably paid for Lever in "past payments".  As long as we've paid 100% of our salary cap in previous years we would have prepaid large amounts to currently contracted players.  These prepayments mean you have a war chest of money to attract players like Lever when the opportunity comes.  We will probably pay him a large first year contract amount and then just put him on "a fair salary".

Job done.  Let's hope we paid 100% of our salary cap in past years.

 

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Don't worry about his salary, what it is we will have to trade to get him is the big question.

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5 minutes ago, mo64 said:

So is he staying or going? Or is this one of Nixon's drunken rants?

Reckon we have offered $900k and he is on his way. Another one of his replies to someone mentioned the draft picks we will give the Crows for them to get a player from another club.

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18 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

What you need to remember is we have effectively probably paid for Lever in "past payments".  As long as we've paid 100% of our salary cap in previous years we would have prepaid large amounts to currently contracted players.  These prepayments mean you have a war chest of money to attract players like Lever when the opportunity comes.  We will probably pay him a large first year contract amount and then just put him on "a fair salary".

Job done.  Let's hope we paid 100% of our salary cap in past years.

 

They changed the rules recently didn't they?

If we were only paying 97.5% this year we can pay 102.5% next year. Something like that anyway.

But yes. I concur. I hope we have been front loading the crap out of our contracts.

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27 minutes ago, Grimes Times said:

take this however you want

https://twitter.com/rickynixontoot

Lever - Melb makes offer Crows counter with similar - manager told Melb Pies, Dogs he was staying Dad moving over then BANG 900 Demons gone

Wha? This makes no grammatical sense. Even Trump's tweets are easier to understand.

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2 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Wha? This makes no grammatical sense. Even Trump's tweets are easier to understand.

Sounds like crowd matched our deal. Dad was moving to Adelaide, we offered 900k and bam! Flip flop dee's are back on top!

Oh and Nixon prob sniffed a massive line before writing that. 

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2 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Sounds like crowd matched our deal. Dad was moving to Adelaide, we offered 900k and bam! Flip flop dee's are back on top!

Oh and Nixon prob sniffed a massive line before writing that. 

nixon is a snake. hard to take anything he says too seriously

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32 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

What you need to remember is we have effectively probably paid for Lever in "past payments".  As long as we've paid 100% of our salary cap in previous years we would have prepaid large amounts to currently contracted players.  These prepayments mean you have a war chest of money to attract players like Lever when the opportunity comes.  We will probably pay him a large first year contract amount and then just put him on "a fair salary".

Job done.  Let's hope we paid 100% of our salary cap in past years.

 

What would be your maximum offer VP given this war chest?

I think aside from salary cap concerns, one issue demon fans may have with this offer if true is that we bought Lever for 900 more so than Lever deciding he wants to play for the Dees. And he might've joined any club on that offer. But knit picking as far as I'm concerned, he's a brilliant player and worth the coin to lure him.

Edited September 13, 2017 by Wrecked Owl Dees Function

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Hypothetical - let's say the Lever deal gets done this week or next; would it be announced before the end of Adelaide's finals campaign? Would they like to give him a proper 'send-off' game I wonder?

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45 minutes ago, Grimes Times said:

take this however you want

https://twitter.com/rickynixontoot

Lever - Melb makes offer Crows counter with similar - manager told Melb Pies, Dogs he was staying Dad moving over then BANG 900 Demons gone

So we offered a deal.

Then the Crows countered with a similar deal.

Manager told Melb, Pies and Dogs that Lever was staying.

Then we offered a bigger deal that knocked Crows for six (aka BANG).

Lever gone to Demons.

 

I think that's what he meant. I have young cousins so I understand gibberish.

Edited September 13, 2017 by wheaters31

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7 minutes ago, Wrecked Owl Dees Function said:

What would be your maximum offer VP given this war chest?

I think aside from salary cap concerns, one issue demon fans may have with this offer if true is that we bought Lever for 900 more so than Lever deciding he wants to play for the Dees. And he might've joined any club on that offer. But knit picking as far as I'm concerned, he's a brilliant player and worth the coin to lure him.

You'd have to know the finances in order to determine what offer you'd make.  The main point is that by having this "war chest" you don't compromise future salary cap decisions because you're making the payment from past year surpluses.

Lever's decision to join/not join us will be based around a whole raft of issues, not just money.  Others can have a concern over the money if they wish but I won't. The fact that he joins us over others is evidence we are starting to become a serious player because anyone can offer money.  It's the other things that count.