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My 3 word player analysis v St Kilda


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On 25/03/2017 at 9:40 PM, joeboy said:

 

Vince - vintage professional performance

 

It was a classic Bernie performance but not at all professional. Ill disciplined throughout. Baffling decision making early. Routinely trying to stir up drama. 

I'll take a game like he had on the weekend but I'd prefer if he stepped up a bit and could play with good energy and also some composure.

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1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

yes 18 matches and 16 have been poor. Constant mistakes causing goals either from turnovers, missed marks, fumbles ... all simple errors. He shows signs but has been fully backed by the coaching hierarchy. He gets the nod by Goodwin unless he cops an injury.

What a lot of nonsense. Omac was not the best defender, but he did a serviceable job. He is also still learning as his brother did. We will have a star in the future, but he does enough to close down key position forwards now and that is to our great advantage.

our coaches know what they are doing....

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37 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

It was a classic Bernie performance but not at all professional. Ill disciplined throughout. Baffling decision making early. Routinely trying to stir up drama. 

I'll take a game like he had on the weekend but I'd prefer if he stepped up a bit and could play with good energy and also some composure.

Did you watch the same game?? Bernie was fantastic, as he almost always is. Good thing you have no influence in the MFC decision making, and simply winge for no reason from the sidelines. we are on the right path!

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41 minutes ago, ENYAW said:

Does anyone know how long Smith will be out for? 

Dependent on scans early this week and whether he goes under the knife or not. 

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20 minutes ago, Dees2014 said:

Did you watch the same game?? Bernie was fantastic, as he almost always is. Good thing you have no influence in the MFC decision making, and simply winge for no reason from the sidelines. we are on the right path!

There was nothing fantastic about:
- Possibly getting himself suspended
- Been beaten to the ball/not taking the body on the goal line against a kid in Gresham
- Crazy first quarter decisions with and without the ball

He lifted after quarter time and played a very good game, I'm not arguing against that, I'm just saying he is far from the consummate professional. He plays footy like it's a bit of fun in the backyard and a lot of the time it works but I wish that one of our leaders and the leader of the backline could raise his standards when it comes to mental application.

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41 minutes ago, ENYAW said:

Does anyone know how long Smith will be out for? 

Dependent on scans early this week and whether he goes under the knife or not. 

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Joeboy - Strangely negative analysis

OMac - Makes terrible decisions

Melksham - Better than anticipated

 

1 hour ago, ENYAW said:

Does anyone know how long Smith will be out for? 

They said it's a dislocated shoulder, although you have to wonder looking at the footage.  Can't have been too serious given he used a pushup motion to get back up and then swung his shoulder around a bit, presumably to loosen it up.  Maybe it was that move that popped it the rest of the way out? 

Anyway, if that's the case they'll probably rest him for a month or so and strap him up for the rest of the season.  Depends on how accurate the reports are. 

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4 minutes ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

Joeboy - Strangely negative analysis

OMac - Makes terrible decisions

Melksham - Better than anticipated

 

They said it's a dislocated shoulder, although you have to wonder looking at the footage.  Can't have been too serious given he used a pushup motion to get back up and then swung his shoulder around a bit, presumably to loosen it up.  Maybe it was that move that popped it the rest of the way out? 

Anyway, if that's the case they'll probably rest him for a month or so and strap him up for the rest of the season.  Depends on how accurate the reports are. 

You must've set the bar low for Melksham then. He's wasn't Oscar level diabolical but he had some bad moments. That holding the ball in the last was revolting and some of his decisions and kicks were pretty awful. He looked a lot like the player Essendon fans warned us about and not like a player who had fixed their flaws over preseason.

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17 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

You must've set the bar low for Melksham then. He's wasn't Oscar level diabolical but he had some bad moments. That holding the ball in the last was revolting and some of his decisions and kicks were pretty awful. He looked a lot like the player Essendon fans warned us about and not like a player who had fixed their flaws over preseason.

So Bernie was shet, O-Mac was shet, and Melksham was shet.

And here's me thinking that kicking 16 goals to 7 (only 5 until "junk-time") after quarter time (while one man down in rotations) was a fantastic all-over team effort, to which these 3 made solid contributions.

Thanks for helping me see the error of my ways.

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10 hours ago, Akum said:

So Bernie was shet, O-Mac was shet, and Melksham was shet.

And here's me thinking that kicking 16 goals to 7 (only 5 until "junk-time") after quarter time (while one man down in rotations) was a fantastic all-over team effort, to which these 3 made solid contributions.

Thanks for helping me see the error of my ways.

I don't think we had a passenger. Whilst here was some "moments" from the Omac and Melksham - I thought they both contributed after quarter time.

Also it is no coincidence that our backmen looked suspect in the first quarter when we were getting beaten around the contest/midfield, The minute our midfield started to dominate our backs looked better because they got help from mids working harder defensively and also putting pressure on the ball carrier putting it into our back line.

As for Bernie - the unnecessary clip behind the ear but he was close to BOG. 

A complete team effort.

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10 hours ago, Akum said:

So Bernie was shet, O-Mac was shet, and Melksham was shet.

And here's me thinking that kicking 16 goals to 7 (only 5 until "junk-time") after quarter time (while one man down in rotations) was a fantastic all-over team effort, to which these 3 made solid contributions.

Thanks for helping me see the error of my ways.

O Mac was undoubtedly bad, there's no defending his bad stuff, of course I'm willing to credit the good work he does with a high motor and ability to find the ball. Melksham was up and down, I'm just surprised he exceeded anyone's expectations. Vince was down then way way up once he got going but I want him to cut out the crap because he's a quality experienced player and a leader.

It is possible for guys to play badly in a good team game and it's possible to ask for senior players to do more!

St Kilda missed a boat load of easy shots on goal as well. Let's not pretend we completely walked all over them. They kick a couple of shots in the 2nd or 3rd during our run of goals and it makes the final quarter far more of a contest.

 

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8 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Let's not pretend we completely walked all over them. 

 

I'm not going to pretend - I'm going accept we did walk all over them after the first quarter.

We were playing at Etihad which has not been kind to us. We were playing a team that has had the wood on us. We were playing a team that before round one were rated higher than us. After quarter time we won ever stat that mattered and controlled the contest. We slammed the contest shut with our 2nd and 3rd quarters.

Yup - we played well and pretty much walked over them. 

 

(way too much woulda coulda shoulda in your post - they didn't kick a couple of shots so they weren't close and the last quarter wasn't a contest - they never looked like it)

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On 26/03/2017 at 0:15 PM, watchtheeyes said:

At some point the ball will start sticking for Weideman, and we're gonna have a player when that happens.

Yesterday though I found he was pretty unclean, and it hurt on occasion.

Fast hands for a big guy. Very slick handball to Hannan to set up a goal - mad scramble in the goal square.

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