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Demon Injuries 2017 season


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Could someone please tell the medical staff down at the club to whack a helmet on young Angus for f sakes how many times does this have to happen to him. If he declines to wear it he doesn't play simple as that ,every time I've seen him concussed not 1 time has he worn a helmet. GET A HELMET ON HIS NOGGEN.

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On 2017-5-17 at 9:28 PM, Skuit said:

Could someone please tell the admin to pin the 'helmets don't help' response?

well there was a new anti-concussion head band discussed (forgot name but in brayshaw thread) which at least deserved a look at

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1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

well there was a new anti-concussion head band discussed (forgot name but in brayshaw thread) which at least deserved a look at

I have no expertise whatsoever on the particular matter, but it's more that there are some comments that should generate an automated response to save everyone the hassle of repeating themselves.

He should wear a helmet: Helmets don't help with concussion.

We need to plan for the slippery NT conditions: Alice Springs is in the middle of an arid desert.

Trengove is too slow: Greg Williams and Sam Mitchell are slow.

 

 

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Max on par with Jake for return now in 3-4 weeks

Weeks: 1. GC, 2. Bye, 3. Collingwood, 4. Dogs, 5. West Coast, 6. Sydney

Angus Brayshaw Concussion Indefinite
Colin Garland* Knee Season
Max Gawn Hamstring 3-4 weeks
Jesse Hogan Cancer Indefinite
Corey Maynard Concussion Test
Pat McKenna Hamstring TBC
Christian Salem Suspension Round 11
Joel Smith Shoulder 5 weeks
Tim Smith Rib/punctured lung Test
Jake Spencer Shoulder 3-4 weeks
Aaron vandenBerg* Heel 6-8 weeks
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10 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Max on par with Jake for return now in 3-4 weeks

Weeks: 1. GC, 2. Bye, 3. Collingwood, 4. Dogs, 5. West Coast, 6. Sydney

Angus Brayshaw Concussion Indefinite
Colin Garland* Knee Season
Max Gawn Hamstring 3-4 weeks
Jesse Hogan Cancer Indefinite
Corey Maynard Concussion Test
Pat McKenna Hamstring TBC
Christian Salem Suspension Round 11
Joel Smith Shoulder 5 weeks
Tim Smith Rib/punctured lung Test
Jake Spencer Shoulder 3-4 weeks
Aaron vandenBerg* Heel 6-8 weeks

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-05-24/vandenberg-mckenna-suffer-setbacks

MFC article talks about vandenBerg having another setback and being at least 8 weeks away.

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^ I'm pretty sure I just read on the website that Max is 4-6 weeks away and that was directly from Misson.

Sometimes I wonder if there is any point in having these injury reports.

Maybe they should just call them short, medium and long term injuries like other clubs do.

 

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7 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

^ I'm pretty sure I just read on the website that Max is 4-6 weeks away and that was directly from Misson.

Sometimes I wonder if there is any point in having these injury reports.

Maybe they should just call them short, medium and long term injuries like other clubs do.

 

The article I linked to has Max 426.

Having said that 628 is the new MFCSS 426. Try explaining that sentence to a non-Demonlander.

 

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7 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

^ I'm pretty sure I just read on the website that Max is 4-6 weeks away and that was directly from Misson.

Sometimes I wonder if there is any point in having these injury reports.

Maybe they should just call them short, medium and long term injuries like other clubs do.

 

Yep sounds like Jake is ahead of Max from this ...

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-05-24/vandenberg-mckenna-suffer-setbacks

Ruckmen Max Gawn (hamstring) is another four to six matches away and Jake Spencer (shoulder) is two to three weeks from resuming.

“Maxy, like Jake Spencer, is doing some really good work in rehab. Both of them are pretty close. Jake is probably a little bit ahead of Max. But again, they’re doing a lot of running and racking up a lot of kilometres,” Misson said.

“They’ve started doing some ruck work in their rehab, so they’re tracking really well.”

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Are we the most cautious club in terms of players returning from injury? Sometimes I'm sure a fingernail chip  would result in 2 weeks with the rehab group.

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On 2017-5-16 at 9:00 PM, Wiseblood said:

I feel like VandenBerg has been 6-8 weeks for 6-8 weeks.  Let's hope he's back sometime during this decade.

Same, does any one know why Van's is still yet to play? I hope it's not going to be another foot problem like Trenner's foot.

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7 minutes ago, deebug said:

Same, does any one know why Van's is still yet to play? I hope it's not going to be another foot problem like Trenner's foot.

from the article: http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-05-24/vandenberg-mckenna-suffer-setbacks

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HARD-nut Aaron vandenBerg has had a setback with his heel injury and will miss at least another eight weeks.

Elite performance manager Dave Misson confirmed the utility would now consider several options regarding his injury.

“That heel just isn’t settling the way we’d like, unfortunately for Aaron,” he told Melbourne TV.

“We’re just going to get a couple more opinions and just make a decision on where we’ll go from there.

“It’s an unusual injury and very difficult for him. It’s another disrupted season, but we’re hoping to get some good information in the next week or so and organise a plan of attack from there.”

 

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16 hours ago, Skuit said:

Helmets don't help with concussion.

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Skuit, this is wrong.

Helmets do not prevent concussion but they can reduce the severity.

A flexible helmet slows the the impact reducing the severity, as cars have crush zones to reduce the impact the helmet allows the head to reduce speed before changing direction. It is unlikely that a helmet could prevent concussion completely but any reduction is a benefit.

 

see:- https://www.wired.com/2016/01/the-zero1-flexible-football-helmet-may-save-players-brains/

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41 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Skuit, this is wrong.

Helmets do not prevent concussion but they can reduce the severity.

A flexible helmet slows the the impact reducing the severity, as cars have crush zones to reduce the impact the helmet allows the head to reduce speed before changing direction. It is unlikely that a helmet could prevent concussion completely but any reduction is a benefit.

 

see:- https://www.wired.com/2016/01/the-zero1-flexible-football-helmet-may-save-players-brains/

That's a gridion helmet! The theory you suggest is right but the AFL helmets do squat, and may actually make things worse as the player takes more risks as they think they are protected. There is heaps of research to suggest that the more safety things you put in place the more risks get taken.

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Vandenberg at least another 8 weeks away and they're going to seek further opinions as his foot just isn't healing. He's gonna be gone a while, not sure if we'll see him in red and blue again as others pass him. Shame as we could use him as a marking option and for defensive pressure up forward at the moment. Poor guy. 

Great to hear Max is not too far off. He'll make us a better team instantly!

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1 hour ago, Chris said:

That's a gridion helmet! The theory you suggest is right but the AFL helmets do squat, and may actually make things worse as the player takes more risks as they think they are protected. There is heaps of research to suggest that the more safety things you put in place the more risks get taken.

Skuit said helmets don't help with concussion. That is wrong. Why would you use a helmet that does not help when there is one available that does help? I don't care if it is a boxing, snowboard, gridiron helmet or otherwise, if it could help a player susceptible to concussion why not try it?

 

Remove the mesh and put on a new sponsor.

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I would suggest only available to players that have had concussion. 

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