AFL LIVE PASS OUTRAGE

[Sir Why You Little 37,342]

I wonder if this was Mike Fitzpatrick's parting gift to AFL Fans

he was very proud of his broadcast deal..

[Bossdog 2,002]

Say what you like about Foxtel.....It beats the hell out of free to air shows.........With all the " real life" shows such as a show that is about people watching TV for Christ sake and nasty cooking shows.....Ten thousand adds....No overseas cricket......Movies once a week with adds every 5 minutes...

Foxtel saved my life.    Worth every cent.

[hells bells 2,023]

2 hours ago, Eelesie said:

Screen sharing still works for me - iphone (iOS 10) to apple tv is my example. PM me for info ( dunno if its wise to flaunt it here...)+

 

 My tv last night...

I'll try mine tonight.

[AzzKikA 2,371]

3 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

Same.

I pay my membership to the club.
And stick it to the man.
Fork 'em.
 

Inbox me as to how.

[Sir Why You Little 37,342]

1 minute ago, btdemon said:

What was the streaming quality like?

It would have to be pretty ordinary, being a 7 inch file put up on an HD Monitor 

But better than nothing!!

[btdemon 482]

2 hours ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

International account allows you to stream in reasonably high quality on a desktop It seems to be HD or close to it either way it's 100x better than the tablet. You can also stream the actual Foxfooty channel 24/7

Do you need to do anything special to get it. I notice that the annual subscription is $189. I'm ok with that if it works. It says that you have to be oversea. Is that true?

[Eelesie 217]

3 minutes ago, btdemon said:

Do you need to do anything special to get it. I notice that the annual subscription is $189. I'm ok with that if it works. It says that you have to be oversea. Is that true?

I reckon you would need a VPN or similar to be able to use it. I would be very surprised if they weren't geo blocking the content...

[ArtificialWisdom 4,045]

3 minutes ago, btdemon said:

Do you need to do anything special to get it. I notice that the annual subscription is $189. I'm ok with that if it works. It says that you have to be oversea. Is that true?

Yeah you need to be located anywhere outside of Aus. There are ways to get around it but thats up to you to find that out. Most people claim a VPN will work. 

[Olgreybeard49 261]

5 hours ago, hells bells said:

Does anyone know if screen mirroring from iPhone to AppleTV will still work?

See Charlie@chumio in the comments to this article - http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/fans-furious-as-telstra-and-afl-live-pass-app-broadcast-shrinks-on-ipad-20170216-guf19n.html Easy.

[btdemon 482]

Thanks, I'll investigate the VPN idea. 

 

[daisycutter 29,920]

pretty hard to get excited about the pre-season comp with no fta and the official alternatives

anybody know any alternate streaming services to watch games? pm if you have any suggestions

[Grapeviney 9,915]

Please don't promote sites and other forums which provide illegal streams - you could land Demonland's owners in hot water. 

No doubt this information is available elsewhere online should you really require it. 

Thanks. 

[Nasher 33,617]

2 hours ago, DemonAndrew said:

it's $50 a month isn't it, for all sport including espn and be-in channels as well as the 'standard' channels?

if you like nba and champions league as well as afl, international cricket, and drama, comedy and the like it's hardly break the bank stuff.

My foxtel goes almost entirely unused outside footy season.  My bank isn't broken thanks to a pretty well paying job, however I very much resent being forced to waste money in this fashion just to watch the sport I love.

[John Crow Batty 8,886]

 

This is the the AFL promotion of the new app and the promise of its wonderful features to come. No mention of the teeny 7inch screen. The subscribers have been duped and mushroom farmed.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-02-10/fans-stream-26m-minutes-of-live-aflw-action

Edited February 17, 2017 by america de cali

[Diamond_Jim 12,722]

Interesting.... internet rights were split off around two negotiations back. If I recall on the first negotiation it was almost a give away and of course more on the next round.

Will be interesting where the internet rights fit into the next round of negotiations. Because Telstra own 50% of Foxtel hard to see them making a play for an increase in the quality of the internet stream but perhaps a new player might (eg Stan owned by Channel 7) might see it as an avenue to gain market share.

Of course Foxtel these days is increasingly an internet stream itself so the waters are getting very muddy.

I watch most of the season overseas on Australia Plus which comes as part of my local cable provider (Astro) but on  a big screen the quality is poor by comparison to other Australian programs.My theory is that to keep the game live (it is fact about five minutes behind real time) they compress the stream over the international cables. By comparison a program like the 7.30 report which is shown here at 7.30 and thus on two/three hour delay comes in with the usual picture quality one sees in Australia. A bit of a bugbear when you can turn on the Sports HD channel and watch EPL etc absolutely live in brilliant HD

[MT64 1,144]

2 hours ago, Bossdog said:

Say what you like about Foxtel.....It beats the hell out of free to air shows.........With all the " real life" shows such as a show that is about people watching TV for Christ sake and nasty cooking shows.....Ten thousand adds....No overseas cricket......Movies once a week with adds every 5 minutes...

Foxtel saved my life.    Worth every cent.

Agree 100%. Mind you Foxtel are very good at repeating stuff but I would never swap back.

[sue 9,239]

3 hours ago, Bossdog said:

Say what you like about Foxtel.....It beats the hell out of free to air shows.........With all the " real life" shows such as a show that is about people watching TV for Christ sake and nasty cooking shows.....Ten thousand adds....No overseas cricket......Movies once a week with adds every 5 minutes...

Foxtel saved my life.    Worth every cent.

Yeah, may have been true for some in the past, but the competition these days for the same sort of viewers is not the free to air channels. Except for sport.

[monoccular 17,700]

10 hours ago, sydneydee said:

Yes it is the same deal as last year

No - much smaller.  But "free" to Telstra mobile customers.  

Is it also "free" to Telstra home internet customers?

7 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

They have disabled the airplay feature so you now can't stream from iPhone/iPad to Apple TV!

Tried on both devices, mirrored my whole screen, but when you click the play button on video in the AFL Live app it says it is not available until you turn off airplay.  Really annoying as it's the only way I can watch a lot of Melbourne games due to work and not having money to burn to pay ludicrous amounts for foxtel!

So typical of the greed of AFL, Telstra and Foxtel. Don't give a stuff for the peasants.

Pay more for less service.

[praha 11,253]

I don't believe that this was a conscious move by the AFL to push people towards Telstra, more so Telstra taking advantage of an organisation that just doesn't get digital. Fitzpatrick probably wouldn't have seen an issue, although I suspect tablet viewership last season would have been very high.

There's a similar issue with Foxtel Play. You can watch the AFL channel on your tablet or phone, but if you try to watch it via Foxtel Play on your desktop or iMac, it's blocked out because the app only has broadcast rights for mobile devices, and because "licensing agreements" restrict what can be shown on the app.

The AFL actually has its hands tied here. Without Foxtel and Telstra, the broadcast rights aren't anywhere near as large as they are. The AFL could just create its own service ala NBA League Pass, but this would turn people away from Foxtel. It can't have the best of both worlds.

People say that the AFL is "money hungry" but that money gets pumped back into the league and struggling teams (like Melbourne). 

The double-edged sword is that the arrangements absolutely suck, but that they're necessary atm.

So long as Foxtel exists and there isn't a genuine competitors to raise the stakes, it will always be like this.

 

[Dan Fantastik 50]

3 hours ago, Eelesie said:

I reckon you would need a VPN or similar to be able to use it. I would be very surprised if they weren't geo blocking the content...

 

3 hours ago, btdemon said:

Do you need to do anything special to get it. I notice that the annual subscription is $189. I'm ok with that if it works. It says that you have to be oversea. Is that true?

I watched the game last night on that service (and the past 3 years). Streamed fine on my laptop then to my TV Via HDMI. Need a VPN though

[whatwhat say what 23,650]

1 hour ago, praha said:

 

There's a similar issue with Foxtel Play. You can watch the AFL channel on your tablet or phone, but if you try to watch it via Foxtel Play on your desktop or iMac, it's blocked out because the app only has broadcast rights for mobile devices, and because "licensing agreements" restrict what can be shown on the app.

The AFL actually has its hands tied here. Without Foxtel and Telstra, the broadcast rights aren't anywhere near as large as they are. The AFL could just create its own service ala NBA League Pass, but this would turn people away from Foxtel. It can't have the best of both worlds.

People say that the AFL is "money hungry" but that money gets pumped back into the league and struggling teams (like Melbourne). 

The double-edged sword is that the arrangements absolutely suck, but that they're necessary atm.

So long as Foxtel exists and there isn't a genuine competitors to raise the stakes, it will always be like this.

 

Not true re foxtel play now - that's part of the new broadcast rights agreement.

 

i know cos watching the game in full stream on foxtel go last night was how I watched the first half!

 

As long as the afl want oodles of money and foxtel (50/50 jv btw news corp and Telstra) needs live sport to drive subs, the pay to watch service will be the norm.

 

it has been like this for eons in the us and the U.K. 

 

Get used to it

[DEE fence 5,050]

7 hours ago, Bells said:

Does anyone have an international AFL account?  Is this the same for everyone - I just signed up for this year last week and I'll be very annoyed if I can't see full size apple mirrored - it's not like I have any other options to watch it.  

I went through it last night and it seems the international version is the premium foxtrot bundle-no lowfi I'd be curious to know what price you were pitched they were saying 149 euro for year to me and was wondering if I use a US ip would I get it cheaper, ie dollars and not euro???

[Ethan Tremblay 31,275]

What's with Geelongs t-shirts? 

[John Crow Batty 8,886]

31 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

What's with Geelongs t-shirts? 

White maggots VS No1 & No 2 jobbies. Where is the crowd? Hardly anyone there. 

Edited February 17, 2017 by america de cali

[Eelesie 217]

3 hours ago, sue said:

Yeah, may have been true for some in the past, but the competition these days for the same sort of viewers is not the free to air channels. Except for sport.

You try it out? Just wondering...

 

 

Edited February 17, 2017 by Eelesie