"The Red Bull" Demons

[Wiseblood 24,636]

1 hour ago, A F said:

Yeah, I know who owns Liverpool and FSG are the biggest tightarses in the premier league and their transfer policies have turned Liverpool into a feeder club.

The Chinese have shown their willingness to spend in world football. If a deal went through, the Liverpool transfer policies would alter dramatically.

And let's hope it stays that way.

[Binmans PA 25,904]

13 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

And let's hope it stays that way.

Klopp will win the league in the next 2-3 years if he's given the chance. One of the best managers in Europe.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Just now, A F said:

Klopp will win the league in the next 2-3 years if he's given the chance. One of the best managers in Europe.

He has the capability, but the Premier League is vastly different to the Bundesliga.  Plus you need some serious quality in your side to get there.  

Funnily enough, Klopp has won the same number of games to this point as LVG had at United.  He'll need to improve quite a bit to achieve a title in the next few years.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

18 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

No way. Ridiculous. 

 

Monster Energy Drinks is the way to go. 

We could be the Monster Demons. Have MotoCross riders and monster trucks flipping around the G before every match. That's the Carrum Downs market cornered. Dancing promo girls and fireworks... sign me up!

Hahaha hilarious.....couldnt we just have Red Bull as a sponsor aaaand keep the name Melbourne?

[Males 577]

If that happened I wouldn't renew my membership, and to be honest, would probably lose interest in the game. ??

[Wiseblood 24,636]

17 hours ago, A F said:

Klopp will win the league in the next 2-3 years if he's given the chance. One of the best managers in Europe.

Still think so, AF?  Not his finest moment overnight.

[Binmans PA 25,904]

20 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

He has the capability, but the Premier League is vastly different to the Bundesliga.  Plus you need some serious quality in your side to get there.  

Funnily enough, Klopp has won the same number of games to this point as LVG had at United.  He'll need to improve quite a bit to achieve a title in the next few years.

FSG don't buy. It's painful. Mane being in Africa has coincided with our drop in form. He's almost as important to Liverpool as Costa is to Chelsea. Without Costa, Chelsea are battling for 5th or 6th place. He's been so dominant. Liverpool has had a much better spread of scorers and contributors. What I can't figure out is why Klopp hasn't splashed out on two top central defenders. If our defence is tightened, we'd win the league. 

Klopp's winning recording is tainted by coming in during a season, whereas LVG started a season and had a transfer window and summer to implement his plans. 2015/2016 was a rightoff season for Liverpool. This season Liverpool have scored more goals and covered more ground than any other team. Next season they'll be even stronger. Sure up defence and they'll be unstoppable.

3 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Still think so, AF?  Not his finest moment overnight.

The EFL and FA Cup have meant little to me ever. The Premier League is the one I want. Need Mane back desperately. Massive game on Wednesday. 

[Wiseblood 24,636]

2 hours ago, A F said:

FSG don't buy. It's painful. Mane being in Africa has coincided with our drop in form. He's almost as important to Liverpool as Costa is to Chelsea. Without Costa, Chelsea are battling for 5th or 6th place. He's been so dominant. Liverpool has had a much better spread of scorers and contributors. What I can't figure out is why Klopp hasn't splashed out on two top central defenders. If our defence is tightened, we'd win the league. 

Klopp's winning recording is tainted by coming in during a season, whereas LVG started a season and had a transfer window and summer to implement his plans. 2015/2016 was a rightoff season for Liverpool. This season Liverpool have scored more goals and covered more ground than any other team. Next season they'll be even stronger. Sure up defence and they'll be unstoppable.

The EFL and FA Cup have meant little to me ever. The Premier League is the one I want. Need Mane back desperately. Massive game on Wednesday. 

You sound like a Melbourne fan at the end of 2011.  Your team is wildly inconsistent, has a dodgy keeper and can't keep the goals out.  You'll need to do a hell of a lot more than sign a few defenders to 'win the league'.  

And even if the FA Cup means little, what the game did show is that some of your youngsters are nowhere near it.  That's got to be a cause for concern, FA Cup or not.

[beelzebub 22,225]

this thread has progressed into the realm of "other" sports 

[Wiseblood 24,636]

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

this thread has progressed into the realm of "other" sports 

To be fair, it was based on other sports to begin with.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,302]

On 28/01/2017 at 1:28 PM, biggestred said:

This makes me want to vomit

We are melbourne

How about if we comprised and became The Melbourne Bitter Demons?

Edited January 29, 2017 by Ethan Tremblay

[biggestred 4,269]

22 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

How about if we comprised and became The Melbourne Bitter Demons?

 

I tend to be pretty full of Melbourne Bitter after a loss... and a win for that matter

[Binmans PA 25,904]

4 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

You sound like a Melbourne fan at the end of 2011.  Your team is wildly inconsistent, has a dodgy keeper and can't keep the goals out.  You'll need to do a hell of a lot more than sign a few defenders to 'win the league'.  

And even if the FA Cup means little, what the game did show is that some of your youngsters are nowhere near it.  That's got to be a cause for concern, FA Cup or not.

I maintain that you sure up the defence and good purchases and you become unstoppable. Even under that hack Rodgers, we would have won the league had our defence been able to defend at all. I don't know what it is. Arrogance or what, but Klopp has failed to address the defensive frailties and to me, it has to be linked to spending. If we're only given a certain amount of money, we spend it on a young attacker (Mane). 

I didn't see the game against Wolves, but I take it we played another team of mostly 18 year olds. Doesn't worry me at all. It's the senior players that have to carry the load. That's about the only Melbourne 2011 comparison I see.  

[Diamond_Jim 11,681]

5 hours ago, beelzebub said:

this thread has progressed into the realm of "other" sports 

As the OP I always find the digression interesting.

Wiseblood is right that it is based on other sports but I posted the topic mainly to see if people could crystal ball the future and more particularly were there ways to move the MFC to a powerhouse team.

Not sure that just winning does it... look at Brisbane and after GWS have won two or three out of the next five they will still be  a basket case.

My son barracks for Liverpool. Can't help wondering if he like me when I started barracking for the Dees in 64 has missed the glory years.

Cheers and as always thanks for the continuing discussion

Finally in keeping with our first game in China,,,,, Gong Xia Fat Choi

[ManDee 7,073]

I wrote to the club a few years back suggesting contacting Red Bull re sponsorship/naming rights (I suggested Melbourne Red Bulls) they replied saying that as Coca Cola were corporate sponsors of the AFL they would not allow Red Bull sponsorship.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

22 minutes ago, ManDee said:

I wrote to the club a few years back suggesting contacting Red Bull re sponsorship/naming rights (I suggested Melbourne Red Bulls) they replied saying that as Coca Cola were corporate sponsors of the AFL they would not allow Red Bull sponsorship.

Please never contact the club again.

[beelzebub 22,225]

I understand discussing money...but the soccer stuff is irrelevant to footy.. They operate differently

Melbourne can always use more money...but as I noted earlier there ARE ceilings on what is able to be spent in various regards..Unlimited funds for selling the name is a furphy then...and we'd lose OUR identity to boot.. Thats never up for grabs personally

I think theres a lot of potential in using our name "Melbourne " better.  Over the years we've discussed it and had talks with the club and summits ..and emails etc etc.

 

[ManDee 7,073]

42 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Please never contact the club again.

Sorry Clint, would Melbourne Red Bull Demons be OK?

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

29 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Sorry Clint, would Melbourne Red Bull Demons be OK?

No.

[Chris 2,892]

This has already happened to an extent. Think of the Lexus/Holden centre, Ikon Park, Skilled stadium, Aami park etc etc etc. While the clubs themselves are not changing name, and nor should they, they are selling off the naming rights to pretty much everything else they possibly can in order to get the training facilities etc. The key to being able to do that is TV ratings, Success, and memberships, we haven't had much of each for the last decade or so but is why Collingwood can build a sand castle and have someone buy the naming rights. 

We are in enviable position of being the only team that truly calls the G home, but that also means we can't sell off the naming rights. It also means we don't have a true training base, especially a traditional suburban home to sell off like the other clubs, our suburban home is the G.

[Satyriconhome 9,982]

19 hours ago, A F said:

I maintain that you sure up the defence and good purchases and you become unstoppable. Even under that hack Rodgers, we would have won the league had our defence been able to defend at all. I don't know what it is. Arrogance or what, but Klopp has failed to address the defensive frailties and to me, it has to be linked to spending. If we're only given a certain amount of money, we spend it on a young attacker (Mane). 

I didn't see the game against Wolves, but I take it we played another team of mostly 18 year olds. Doesn't worry me at all. It's the senior players that have to carry the load. That's about the only Melbourne 2011 comparison I see.  

No I'm afraid you didn't. Money doesn't necessarily buy the right players or make them play as a team. You need a good manager to do that. Klopp to me will be found out in the Premier League

[Adzman 2,085]

As Ted Dibiase used to say "every man has his price"

The NBA just announced advertising on jerseys for next year which was thought to never happen.

Sooner or later AFL clubs will be bought. Hopefully we can still keep our name and colours when it does happen.

Just hoping that Tampax don't buy us ... The Tampax demons doesn't have a good ring to it.

[Diamond_Jim 11,681]

If Red Bull approached GWS and said we will bankroll you if the team name includes Red bull my thoughts are the AFL would approve it in a flash as would the other teams.

Less AFL money going into GWS means more money for other things. The only reason it would be vetoed is if the power clubs got their noses out of joint.

As to the name they could even become just the Red Bulls or the GWS Red Bulls. There is nothing invested in the name Giants. Same could be said for the Suns.

Melbourne were the fuschias so name changes (okay symbol changes) are far from unknown even with the older teams.

Edited January 30, 2017 by Diamond_Jim
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[beelzebub 22,225]

when they become the Red and Blue Bulls I might entertain the notion..they arent...I'm not !!

[Biffen 12,298]

Red Bull as a corporate entity can expect to be sued by the families of young skaters, skiers,bike riders and stunt-sportsmen that they have driven to their deaths.

They've been marketing "adrenaline sports" for years and killed quite a few already.

The naming rights are not up for sale but i wouldn't object to their involvement as a sponsor.

If we sold our name off I wouldn't be supporting the club anymore.