2017 Clash Guernsey

[Satyriconhome 10,872]

Believe in 2018 they are going to be remodelling the G, so we will be playing all games at Etihad in the white jumper.............I don't care if we play buck naked as long as we have a crack and win a few games

[beelzebub 23,364]

9 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Believe in 2018 they are going to be remodelling the G, so we will be playing all games at Etihad in the white jumper.............I don't care if we play buck naked as long as we have a crack and win a few games

why would you ever play a Home game in the white jumper...irrespective of where ?

[Satyriconhome 10,872]

20 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

why would you ever play a Home game in the white jumper...irrespective of where ?

It's a joke     understand the angst from supporters who long for the old days and the heritage, but I have bought the white jumpet for last three years can't see the issue, as I said they could wear green and pink stripes for all I care, as long as they play well

Edited November 19, 2016 by Satyriconhome

[CBDees 3,167]

2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

It's a joke     understand the angst from supporters who long for the old days and the heritage, but I have bought the white jumpet for last three years can't see the issue, as I said they could wear green and pink stripes for all I care, as long as they play well

With the greatest respect Saty, l disagree!

To me it is an essential component of rebuilding a strong culture that we have one (1) easily identifiable jumper! Peter Jackson and Paul Roos have started the culture-rebuilding process but a strong identity is the next step. Not only should people see images of Jones, Watts, Viney, Gawn, Hogan, (Daisy) Pearce et al and immediately think Melbourne FC but they should not have to contend with a constant parade of (alternate) jumpers for away games, etc. Collingwood have managed the jumper side but none of their players are as readily identifiable as the Melbourne players I just mentioned so we are making some headway.

The ultimate success will be when people see an image of the MCG and immediately think Melbourne Football Club!

Go Dees!

 

[Satyriconhome 10,872]

33 minutes ago, CBDees said:

With the greatest respect Saty, l disagree!

To me it is an essential component of rebuilding a strong culture that we have one (1) easily identifiable jumper! Peter Jackson and Paul Roos have started the culture-rebuilding process but a strong identity is the next step. Not only should people see images of Jones, Watts, Viney, Gawn, Hogan, (Daisy) Pearce et al and immediately think Melbourne FC but they should not have to contend with a constant parade of (alternate) jumpers for away games, etc. Collingwood have managed the jumper side but none of their players are as readily identifiable as the Melbourne players I just mentioned so we are making some headway.

The ultimate success will be when people see an image of the MCG and immediately think Melbourne Football Club!

Go Dees!

 

I understand why some people find the clash jumper repulsive, it is all about the past and the heritage of the MFC

I'm just not one of them, it's a jumper, the whole thing is a business now so somebody at the Club has decided that this jumper will sell, only time will tell if they are correct

If the on field success comes the membership and identity will come with it, we may wear this jumper 5 or 6 times, that means we will wear the red and blue, which everybody knows is MFC colours, the rest of the time

I support Everton in the EPL and they have had some appalling away strips over time, but I still buy those I like, why I buy the white jumper, coz I have enough red and blue, same as I have enough blue and white of Everton

Edited November 19, 2016 by Satyriconhome

[gg24 29]

Red option plus a royal blue option would cover all bases - can't think of any team we would go close to "clashing" with if we had these two plus our home jumper to choose from. 

West Coast have done a similar thing for 2017. 

[beelzebub 23,364]

Epl is poor comparison really. Theyll wear anything often. Hard to dpot the true strip anymore.

I don't want that. Nor do we need that.

I cant honestly think of any real clash that a nearly all red with slight blue trim wouldn't solve. Again It works for Essendon. Ought to work for us. Even playing them i never had a problem.

Still. I grew up able to distinguish between north and pies on a b/w telly !!

Its really not that fn hard. 

The Acorn doesnt translate well to clothing imho. The MFC logo does.

[biggestred 5,081]

43 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Epl is poor comparison really. Theyll wear anything often. Hard to dpot the true strip anymore.

I don't want that. Nor do we need that.

I cant honestly think of any real clash that a nearly all red with slight blue trim wouldn't solve. Again It works for Essendon. Ought to work for us. Even playing them i never had a problem.

Still. I grew up able to distinguish between north and pies on a b/w telly !!

Its really not that fn hard. 

The Acorn doesnt translate well to clothing imho. The MFC logo does.

they wear  their home strips at home. If you're the away team its up to you not to clash. If your traditional kit doesnt clash then away you go.

Most epl teams have 3 kits 

[beelzebub 23,364]

10 minutes ago, biggestred said:

they wear  their home strips at home. If you're the away team its up to you not to clash. If your traditional kit doesnt clash then away you go.

Most epl teams have 3 kits 

Yes, but, even their home strip morphs quite a bit save for a few clubs.  But point taken.

 

[Dedogtor 66]

It's almost lazy to just disregard the jumper as JUST A JUMPER,  exsuse the pun but it is the fabric of our club and brand I could not think of a better way to   dilute the brand than to constantly  introduce new jumpers and colours.

Think about some clubs with iconic kits 

The Yankees - pinstrip

The Raiders - siliver and back

Real Madrid - there logo hasn't change since 1908

The all backs - back white fern 

The Chicago Bulls 

 

if you want your club to be a icon first the jumper must be.

 

[beelzebub 23,364]

Hard to play for a jumper if it has no identity.

[CBDees 3,167]

Also hard to build our membership numbers up or bring in a new wave of primary school kids when we have multiple jumpers. When I went to school ( in our halcyon years), most kids wore one of two jumpers, "black and white" or "red and blue"! Bit hard to hand your old jumpers on to the next generation when they don't recognise them!

[beelzebub 23,364]

The MFC need to stick fat to our history. Its OURS . The league sell out everything and everyone who have no sway

 The simple stance is to say enough.

Play is a reasonable away strip that suits us ONLY when real clash exists otherwise don the red and blue.

Make a stand Dees AFL has shown it crumbles. Theyre weak as plss 

[monoccular 17,427]

On 16/11/2016 at 2:44 PM, ManDee said:

 

Truly hideous.....is your name Gil, trying to force our club out of existence?

 

[Pates 9,660]

There are definitely two seperate issues being debated here, the issue of the design and the issue of whether it's even necessary.

I don't subscribe to the idea that's it's necessary but at the same time I'm enough of a realist to know that this is something the AFL want and I also see there being potential marketing and sales opportunities for the clash guernsey. So I don't have issue with us having a clash strip or the AFL having a policy for clash guernseys. I wish they wouldn't have to be all white but I think GC is one team that we are supposed to clash with so all red is unrealistic vs them.

My only issue is with the current, and in my opinion lazy design of this latest top. In the correspondence between Rodney and the club they mention that this design allowed for more Red and Blue with a predominantly white strip. I would be very interested to see if this was pointed to from the start when they put forward this idea to the club. Because honestly I don't see that.

I see a logo slapped onto a plain white background. As many have alluded to it's the sort of thing you would see in the cheap markets of Bali & Thailand. 

In an age where fan/social media engagement is massive I can't believe that the club could miss such an obvious opportunity to give the fans a chance to shape the image of the club. Have a design competition + fan vote + free signed clash guernsey at the end to someone who picks the winner and you've got blatant easy marketing. Add a plug on Triple M and/or SEN and it would take off.

As many have pointed to, I don't think this is an issue the club really cares about.

[biggestred 5,081]

Hey pates, you know what doesnt clash with GCs red?

Blue.

[old dee 23,788]

19 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

It's a joke     understand the angst from supporters who long for the old days and the heritage, but I have bought the white jumpet for last three years can't see the issue, as I said they could wear green and pink stripes for all I care, as long as they play well

Make that" Win" Saty and you have my vote!

[old dee 23,788]

10 hours ago, Pates said:

There are definitely two seperate issues being debated here, the issue of the design and the issue of whether it's even necessary.

I don't subscribe to the idea that's it's necessary but at the same time I'm enough of a realist to know that this is something the AFL want and I also see there being potential marketing and sales opportunities for the clash guernsey. So I don't have issue with us having a clash strip or the AFL having a policy for clash guernseys. I wish they wouldn't have to be all white but I think GC is one team that we are supposed to clash with so all red is unrealistic vs them.

My only issue is with the current, and in my opinion lazy design of this latest top. In the correspondence between Rodney and the club they mention that this design allowed for more Red and Blue with a predominantly white strip. I would be very interested to see if this was pointed to from the start when they put forward this idea to the club. Because honestly I don't see that.

I see a logo slapped onto a plain white background. As many have alluded to it's the sort of thing you would see in the cheap markets of Bali & Thailand. 

In an age where fan/social media engagement is massive I can't believe that the club could miss such an obvious opportunity to give the fans a chance to shape the image of the club. Have a design competition + fan vote + free signed clash guernsey at the end to someone who picks the winner and you've got blatant easy marketing. Add a plug on Triple M and/or SEN and it would take off.

As many have pointed to, I don't think this is an issue the club really cares about.

Excellent summation Pates. Agree 100%

[Yossarian 1,820]

Just change the clash guernsey to the 2016 clash guernsey. I actually didn't mind it. 

This is the best one I think we've had:

[beelzebub 23,364]

10 hours ago, biggestred said:

Hey pates, you know what doesnt clash with GCs red?

Blue.

Funny that .

Somewhere above is the illustration of mainly blue, mainly red and mainly white.

I would think the blue and red ones would cover any REAL  clash were it to exist.

[ILLDieADemon 804]

On 15 November 2016 at 10:35 AM, Robot Devil said:

Trim the neck and shoulder area a bit and it could pass for an NBA singlet. 

That's the first thing I thought 

[praha 11,240]

It's fine.

[beelzebub 23,364]

On 11/15/2016 at 8:02 PM, FireOath said:

for sake of clarity this is the work I was just talking of

Between the Blue  and the Red versions...cant see what else is needed. They both invoke the new Acorn in a fashion whilst paying respect to the MFC logo.

They LOOK like proper jumpers not Touristy Souvenirs of Basketball Singlets

The White isnt necessary at all IMHO 

[biggestred 5,081]

32 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

for sake of clarity this is the work I was just talking of

Between the Blue  and the Red versions...cant see what else is needed. They both invoke the new Acorn in a fashion whilst paying respect to the MFC logo.

They LOOK like proper jumpers not Touristy Souvenirs of Basketball Singlets

The White isnt necessary at all IMHO 

How to tell if a footy jumper is ok

Your nan can make one out of wool and stitch the extra fabric for the design on easily

 

[beelzebub 23,364]

Im still not sure who we actually clash with ?