FA & Trade Whispers

[jnrmac 18,944]

45 minutes ago, Tram 74 said:

He has a bad habit of disrespecting people, that would need to change.

He also doesn't like Melbourne.

We promised to rookie him but took Jurrah instead. He was very dirty.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

The HUN have put an article up claiming that Tom Mitchell is 'ready' to request a trade to Whorethorn and sign a lucrative 4 year deal.

Good signing, but he won't stop their decline either.  With Mitchell, Hodge, Burgoyne, Gibson etc. all very close to retirement, a few mids and Ty Vickery won't halt their slide down the ladder.

[Moonshadow 16,157]

Suns and Giants trying to wrap up the top cluster of picks (except pick 1) in order to not have to use them to get their academy players. They trade 2 x first round picks to get picks 2, 3, maybe 5 and 6, and then use later picks for academy points.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trades-2016-giants-suns-look-to-beat-early-bids-for-academy-stars-20161009-gry6fo.html

Edited October 9, 2016 by Moonshadow

[Wiseblood 24,636]

3 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Suns and Giants trying to wrap up the top cluster of picks (except pick 1) in order to not have to use them to get their academy players. They trade 2 x first round picks to get picks 2, 3 and maybe more and then use later picks for academy picks.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trades-2016-giants-suns-look-to-beat-early-bids-for-academy-stars-20161009-gry6fo.html

And that's the system and the loophole that goes with it I guess.  I'd complain but we've been a part of a few trades that have helped both clubs in this area and I didn't complain about it then.

[Nasher 33,047]

23 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

He also doesn't like Melbourne.

We promised to rookie him but took Jurrah instead. He was very dirty.

How many people who were running the club then are still there now?

It wouldn't be hard for Taylor/Viney/Mahoney/Goodwin/whoever to go "yeah yeah sorry, those guys were idiots, the club isn't like that now.".  If he still holds a grudge over that, he's probably a sandwich short of a picnic anyway.

[FarNorthernD 5,839]

2 hours ago, Vineytime said:

Anyone that believes there is even 1% chance of that trade happening lives in noddy land

Agree there is next to no chance. The only thing that gives it some credence is that Rockliff is on a contract that is so large that few clubs are willing or able to take it on. Also he is apparently on the nose with the Brisbane hierarchy. I find it strange they made him captain in the first place.

Like most here if we could afford to take on his contract, without jeopardising our salary cap flexibility, I would take him in a heartbeat 

[Whispering_Jack 27,959]

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

He also doesn't like Melbourne.

We promised to rookie him but took Jurrah instead. He was very dirty.

I'm not sure if that's right.

Firstly, we took Liam Jurrah with first pick in the preseason draft and Rockliff went to the Lions with the fifth pick in that draft. Had the Lions taken a different player, then we would have picked him as a rookie with first selection. 

Secondly, I've never heard it said that Rockliff had been promised anything or that he was resentful of Melbourne for taking Jurrah in the PSD ahead of him.

[Nasher 33,047]

10 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

I'm not sure if that's right.

Firstly, we took Liam Jurrah with first pick in the preseason draft and Rockliff went to the Lions with the fifth pick in that draft. Had the Lions taken a different player, then we would have picked him as a rookie with first selection. 

Secondly, I've never heard it said that Rockliff had been promised anything or that he was resentful of Melbourne for taking Jurrah in the PSD ahead of him.

Rockliff was training with us at the time, and my recollection was that all and sundry believed we would take him with our PSD pick.  The selection of Jurrah with the PSD pick was totally out of the blue and allowed the Lions to swoop. 

That generation of recruiting staff also had form with telling players we'd take them and then spontaneously taking someone else when the time came to deliver (ref Bennell-Sloane), so while this is all hearsay, it adds up to a plausible story.  

He's still a tool if he's not over it by now though.

Edited October 9, 2016 by Nasher

[Harbinger43 87]

I think we might be surprised with the MFC being more active than most anticipate!

[ding 5,126]

42 minutes ago, Harbinger43 said:

I think we might be surprised with the MFC being more active than most anticipate!

Oh just stop it.... i was trying to ignore this thread, now i will have to keep checking damn you.

[Nasher 33,047]

44 minutes ago, Harbinger43 said:

I think we might be surprised with the MFC being more active than most anticipate!

Team Mahoney/Viney/Taylor have demonstrated ability in pulling rabbits of hats, so I hope you're right.  

I've got to say I've never been as excited by a bunch of bland footy administrators as I am by this team.  So boring to listen to, so many runs on the board to date.  

[MadAsHell 4,088]

10 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Suns and Giants trying to wrap up the top cluster of picks (except pick 1) in order to not have to use them to get their academy players. They trade 2 x first round picks to get picks 2, 3, maybe 5 and 6, and then use later picks for academy points.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trades-2016-giants-suns-look-to-beat-early-bids-for-academy-stars-20161009-gry6fo.html

In theory they can do that. But pretty sure the way the rules are set up would see them go into recession for the 2017 draft.

I don't have the formula in front of me, but lets say GWS stock pile a bunch of top 20 picks and only a few late ones.

Come draft time a team bids Pick 25 on a GWS Academy player and pick 25 = 500 points. Now after the 20% discount etc lets say with the picks GWS has left, GWS find themselves 200 points shy of the points required. Well they can still take said player, but they'll loose 200 points off their first draft pick next year. So Pick 17 may become 18 or 19etc.

That's my understanding of how it's supposed to work as anyway.

[jackaub 1,402]

On 10/7/2016 at 2:31 PM, DeeZee said:

Zachary Jones will come back to Melbourne to play with his brother once his contract is finished, if the planets align.

A worse kick than his brother No thanks

[Demons rising 52]

3AW rumor file reporting a overly refreshed hawks player saying he is off to Melbourne f c 

any ideas on whom or if anyone heard whom we my be targeting if anyone 

note I am only reporting what was said not commenting on its veracity 

Edited October 9, 2016 by Demons rising

[wheaters31 564]

5 minutes ago, Demons rising said:

3AW rumor file reporting a overly refreshed hawks player saying he is off to Melbourne f c 

any ideas on whom or if anyone heard whom we my be targeting if anyone 

note I am only reporting what was said not commenting on its veracity 

I don't even know what a "overly refreshed hawks player" implies.

[Gorgoroth 12,308]

6 minutes ago, Demons rising said:

3AW rumor file reporting a overly refreshed hawks player saying he is off to Melbourne f c 

any ideas on whom or if anyone heard whom we my be targeting if anyone 

note I am only reporting what was said not commenting on its veracity 

Overly refreshed... obviously not playing much with the hawks then... Langford? 

[Lucifers Hero 36,991]

10 hours ago, Harbinger43 said:

I think we might be surprised with the MFC being more active than most anticipate!

More information please - a few hints will do!

[Wiseblood 24,636]

5 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

I don't even know what a "overly refreshed hawks player" implies.

I think it implies he may have had a few beverages and was letting slip info that a sober person probably wouldn't.

[wheaters31 564]

Hartung, Brand (OOC), Litherland, Schoenmakers (please no), Spangher (OOC), Heatherley, McEvoy (OOC)

Edited October 9, 2016 by wheaters31

[Dwight Schrute 16,749]

Brand is one i've heard us connected to. 

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Even though he's a defender, Brand's bloody tall. Can he ruck?

 

[wheaters31 564]

7 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

Even though he's a defender, Brand's bloody tall. Can he ruck?

 

No. Perhaps getting Brand opens up Frost for forward/ruck role if injuries occur.

Edited October 9, 2016 by wheaters31

[Radar Detector 1,339]

14 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

No. Perhaps getting Brand opens up Frost for forward/ruck role if injuries occur.

Hopefully not. It was blindingly obvious early in the season and confirmed later in the season that Frost is much more valuable as a defender than a forward.

[pineapple dee 2,892]

42 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

I don't even know what a "overly refreshed hawks player" implies.

Come on Wheaters !!!   Overly refreshed= Drunk. Sheesh !! 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,394]

52 minutes ago, Demons rising said:

3AW rumor file reporting a overly refreshed hawks player saying he is off to Melbourne f c 

any ideas on whom or if anyone heard whom we my be targeting if anyone 

note I am only reporting what was said not commenting on its veracity 

That story was "supplemented" a little later on the same program with the suggestion that the player in question is a 4x Premiership player aged around 30-31. I'm not sure who of the limited pool of players fits that criteria. Mitchell and Burgoyne are too old. Perhaps Lewis or Birchall? (I expect Roughead is also in that window but I assume for other reasons it's not him.)