FA & Trade Whispers

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Dockers have traded pick three to GWS in exchange for Cameron McCarthy, pick 7, 33 & 71.

 

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4 minutes ago, stuie said:

Dockers have traded pick three to GWS in exchange for Cameron McCarthy, pick 7, 33 & 71.

 

Could be a huge value deal if McCarthy can get back to his best form.

do they now move pick 33 on to the Hawks for Brad Hill?

Edited October 11, 2016 by Abe

[stuie 7,374]

Just now, Abe said:

Could be a huge value deal if McCarthy can get back to his best form.

Fantastic deal for the Dockers IMO. Top 10 are fairly even this year apparently.

 

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8 hours ago, ProDee said:

Much the same with Deledio, who is on $800K.  Richmond want to free up cap-space and see Deledio, who plays as a 30 year old next year, as expendable in their list revamp.

My question is, how the hell does Geelong afford his salary?

Geelong and Hawthorn's salary caps are like Mary Poppins bag. 

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Fremantle will be laughing with that one. 
I can't be bothered with the maths, but I do wonder if that means GWS will need to bulk up later picks for points again. AKA, Dees have a look in for a pick upgrade. 

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1 minute ago, Jaded said:

My question is, how the hell does Geelong afford his salary?

Geelong and Hawthorn's salary caps are like Mary Poppins bag. 

Wouldn't surprise me if the Tigers paid a small part of his salary to get him off their books.  Not sure how much that would be, but it's happened before.

I still don't think he is the player to get them a flag though, and they're not only putting lots of their eggs in this basket, but it continues to show that their ability to develop younger players and bring them through is not what it used to be.

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1 minute ago, Jaded said:

My question is, how the hell does Geelong afford his salary?

Geelong and Hawthorn's salary caps are like Mary Poppins bag. 

The cats have signalled they will struggle to get this guys in under their salary cap.

There are suggestions that Josh Caddy might be Offloaded.

I find this interesting as when they recruited him a couple of years ago I thought they were getting an average player.

This was in disagreement to the majority on Demonland who were very disappointed we could not get him..

Here we are a couple of years down the track and he has been very average at Geelong and they are looking to offload him.

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9 minutes ago, stuie said:

Dockers have traded pick three to GWS in exchange for Cameron McCarthy, pick 7, 33 & 71.

 

Wow, GWS must be very very keen on a specific draftee at #3.

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3 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Wouldn't surprise me if the Tigers paid a small part of his salary to get him off their books.  Not sure how much that would be, but it's happened before.

I still don't think he is the player to get them a flag though, and they're not only putting lots of their eggs in this basket, but it continues to show that their ability to develop younger players and bring them through is not what it used to be.

The developers have left the building?

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Good deal for Freo, too.  They get McCarthy, albeit a year late, and they stay inside the first round while adding at least one other pick of value that may help them get Brad Hill from the Hawks.  

I will be interested to see how McCarthy goes after a year out of the game and being the number one target in a forward line.

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Just now, TRIGON said:

Wow, GWS must be very very keen on a specific draftee at #3.

They also don't have a lot of cap or list room, so they'd much prefer one higher pick than various picks.

 

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6 minutes ago, Bringbackbarassi said:

Fremantle will be laughing with that one. 
I can't be bothered with the maths, but I do wonder if that means GWS will need to bulk up later picks for points again. AKA, Dees have a look in for a pick upgrade. 

I believe the rules have changed for this year. You can only bring the same number of picks to the draft a spots you have on the list. Thus there is no more bulking up on late picks. 

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1 minute ago, old dee said:

The cats have signalled they will struggle to get this guys in under their salary cap.

There are suggestions that Josh Caddy might be Offloaded.

I find this interesting as when they recruited him a couple of years ago I thought they were getting an average player.

This was in disagreement to the majority on Demonland who were very disappointed we could not get him..

Here we are a couple of years down the track and he has been very average at Geelong and they are looking to offload him.

Once again Old, you show impeccable judgement.

 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, old dee said:

The developers have left the building?

Could be, plus the loss of a host of veterans who set the standard and took the heat of them have now either left or retired.  It makes a big difference.

The Cats are, if they land both Deledio and Tuohy, about to add 6 experienced players in 2 years, which shows they have little faith in the kids coming through.  

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1 minute ago, Dante said:

Once again Old, you show impeccable judgement.

 

What can I say Dante!

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1 minute ago, Dante said:

Once again Old, you show impeccable judgement.

 

And Old Dee but a Good Dee.

[stuie 7,374]

4 minutes ago, old dee said:

The cats have signalled they will struggle to get this guys in under their salary cap.

There are suggestions that Josh Caddy might be Offloaded.

I find this interesting as when they recruited him a couple of years ago I thought they were getting an average player.

This was in disagreement to the majority on Demonland who were very disappointed we could not get him..

Here we are a couple of years down the track and he has been very average at Geelong and they are looking to offload him.

Not sure you can label him an "average player" if he's the required trade for a very good player...

 

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2 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

Wow, GWS must be very very keen on a specific draftee at #3.

Rumour is they want to get pick 5 from Carlton for Marchbank and on-trade 3 and 5 to the Dons for pick #1 Not sure the dons want that but 2 top 5 picks vs pick 1 its a hell of a choice.

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Just now, stuie said:

Not sure you can label him an "average player" if he's the required trade for a very good player...

 

I would not call either of the two players concerned "Very Good" IMO they are average players in poor teams.

If Caddy was as good as touted a couple of years ago they would not be entertaining  offloading him for a couple of average players.

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23 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

Considering Wells turns 32 at the start of next year, I can't see his body getting any better. 

he could always visit steven danks' anti-ageing clinic

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Just now, stuie said:

Not sure you can label him an "average player" if he's the required trade for a very good player...

 

Average player is probably a little harsh, but he certainly hasn't set the world alight.  He is still young enough that the Tigers believe there is still lots of improvement left in him over the coming years.  

Plus, without picks, I'm not sure who else they would be keen on.  They don't want Motlop and there is little else that would excite the Tigers.  If they want to offload him and free up cap room while getting Caddy in return, then they may take it and run.

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7 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

Wow, GWS must be very very keen on a specific draftee at #3.

McGrath

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4 hours ago, stuie said:

Fair enough mate! I do get where you're coming from, you're a "play it safe" man. I'm just a fan of O'Meara in full flight.

 

I would definitely do that if I were the Bombers recruiting team.

They missed a whole draft so taking two top 10 picks instead of one would be gold for them.

And it would work for GWS as well since they have a million first rounders.

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Just now, Wiseblood said:

Average player is probably a little harsh, but he certainly hasn't set the world alight.  He is still young enough that the Tigers believe there is still lots of improvement left in him over the coming years.  

Plus, without picks, I'm not sure who else they would be keen on.  They don't want Motlop and there is little else that would excite the Tigers.  If they want to offload him and free up cap room while getting Caddy in return, then they may take it and run.

Yeah it's that trade off of getting a player who doesn't have as high a ceiling but will be cheaper and around a lot longer I guess.

 

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2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Could be, plus the loss of a host of veterans who set the standard and took the heat of them have now either left or retired.  It makes a big difference.

The Cats are, if they land both Deledio and Tuohy, about to add 6 experienced players in 2 years, which shows they have little faith in the kids coming through.  

Not smitten with the kittens? I do like Nakia, however have to be cautious how to express that - if too ostentatious then it could easily be misconstrued.